|The Book of Hor. Hor is the resident xtian antagonist a.k.a. martin, science guy, biff, xenon, little 'A', Sweetness, boz, RL Wooten, 'Everyone', and of course Horatio.|
Hor's favorite diversions and the number of times used (to find, press ctrl+f)
TOE:126 macro:130 soup:52 programmer:14 obsess:31 chevy:18 moral:251
Total number of Hor's posts: 1040. (Who's obsessed?)
|2012 December 03 03:12:00 AM (8081)||[A] wwgha link 93. |
<methinks this is Hor's all time dumbest post>“I now understand why atheist don't help the needy. Lou summed it out with "it's not my fault";
Let us be thankful that Thelma-Lou is just one a few hate-filled uncaring individuals who looks out for himself and ignores the plight of others. Now we better understand why China is selling fetuses as a delicacy in china. They live in an atheist society and this is where the moral code of atheists always regresses to – death, destruction and disaster.
|2014 August 28 09:08:00 PM (10354)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 836. ||F&M posting as the talking chimp bellowed: |
“What I gave is the accepted definition of the argumentum ad populum.”
Well, you didn’t give a definition and I did not make an argument so you are……Wrong Again! lol!! Imade an observation…..I know its hard Cocoa.
“Then why hasn?t A shown us how those observations add nothing?”
The onus is on you to prove your claim. You never did and you fail again. Dismissed! lol!!
“Worldview allows me to compare the contents of the Guggenheim to things that are the result of natural processes”
The talking chimp inches closer. He claims he CAN recognize design. Now the Guggenheim cannot even compare in complexity to the workings within a cell. Talking Chimp claims the cell is the result of natural processes? Which ones? Never seen a process that could create the first cell? Is Chimp invoking faith here? And if that is so, why couldn’t the Gug be natural processes? Man is only a natural process, right? We will get no answer……..sigh….
“How does A the lying prick know that the Guggenheim is designed? He lost his ?non-designed? reference point when he professed his belief in intelligent design.”
I’m not a talking chimp. I recognize design. I lost my “non-designed” reference?
“You can only point out ?design? when you have a ?non-designed? (natural) reference point to work from.”
Incorrect, you cannot claim something is not designed because you have no proof this is true, a
Ouch! You just got used! lol!!!
“He seems very confused about what role his God has.”
ROTFL!!!!! Talking chimp again is so confused. OK, follow this Cocoa. God crated the universe, man uses things in that universe to build things like trains, cars, the Gug!
“Did man create the Guggenheim, Macs, televisions, etc, etc, etc, in the same way A?s God created the universe? Ex-nihilo?”
That says it all folks, Cocoa cannot find the difference between God creating a universe and man using the resources of that creation to build and create. That is a toughy! lol!!!!
|2014 August 28 01:08:00 AM (10357)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 833. ||F&M posting as Dead Freddie said” |
“Finally the lying prick confirms using the argumentum ad populum fallacy after previously denying it.”
True…..not the accepted definition but your wrong definition. You don’t recognize argument from an observation. That’s your problem…:)
“I recognise them wholeheartedly but where is……..argument that demonstrates said order comes from his God”
Left out F&M ugliness :), but here F&M lies. He does not recognize that order, information and complexity must come from intelligence. This has been demonstrated many times and daily.
“I never claimed that the argument was true because George H. Smith said it. \”
Again,,,,I was using your definitions :). Quite funny you took it seriously….lol!!!! Anywho, his observations add nothing.
“He hasn?t yet explained how we can differentiate between what is designed and what isn?t”
LOL!!!!!!! Now this is quite funny. F&M are you telling us if you walk into the Guggenheim you would not be able to figure out it was designed? seriously? It’s not obvious to you?
ROTFL!!!!!!!! You really must be a chimp since they cannot discern that either! DNA is highly complex, like the Guggenheim, it needs a programmer there slick! lol!!!!
“He assumes that nature has actually been designed by his creator but is desperate to retain nature as a reference point from which to discern design.”
“apparently everything has been designed by his God?”
HUH? I never said any such thing. God created the Universe, man created the Guggenheim, Macs, televisions, etc, etc, etc,. Yes, good created most men with the ability to think and produce, accept for talking chimps…lol!!!!
|2014 August 22 04:08:00 PM (10336)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 813. ||F&M posting as Dead Freddie said: |
“The implication behind the question was quite clear.”
True, the implication atheism is illogical and unreasonable and thus the primary reason after multiple centuries it remains a small cult.
“offers no supporting argument”
Only for those who refuse to recognize the processes, logic and order that surrounds all of us.
“George H. Smith says it nicely”
Fallacious, Appeal to a “so-called” authority who is a part of the cult. Dismissed! lol!!
“if everything is designed you cannot discern design.”
Completely untrue. I witness the effects of a tornado, hurricane or even an earthquake and recognize an event that brought only chaos, not design. Witness a 150 yr old home that never has a man maintaining the structure and watch what happens after 50 yrs of “Nature the master designer” acting on the structure. You witness deterioration and destruction. Now when I visit the Guggenheim I recognize design. Dismissed!
“define what he means by ?complexity? or ?high information?”
I didn’t defined the word “is” either. lol!! The fact you need those words defined says it all!
“demonstrate the existence of any ?creation?.
This is the funniest of them all! You know, a chimp doesn’t recognize the existence of a creation either. Is it possible dead Freddie is actually “Talking Chimp”? Something to consider.
|2014 August 21 05:08:00 PM (10341)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 808. ||“Argumentum ad populum fallacy? |
Actually it was not an argument, just a question. Context is not a wrong suit for you, huh? However majority opinion is also not necessarily wrong
And you failed to answer. Lol!!
“On the contrary atheism fits what we observe perfectly”
Nope not even close. And which is why atheism remains a small cult. We observe design, complexity, high information systems all throughout creation. We observe these systems from cells to galaxies and such order is what we observe with intelligence. The atheist belied system leaves no room for intelligence.
|2014 August 21 01:08:00 AM (10306)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 805. ||“What persecution card? Defending my stance was respectful before. Making a statement and rationalising it is ok, even if you disagree, but Rationalising why I don?t know is now a problem?” |
Have you ever taken psychology? Before, you had a common enemy in Dippity Dew’s eyes, namely me. Now you are going one on one with Dippity Dew and you are now the enemy.
This is how Dippity and F&M operate. The hide behind a fence and take shots while running from their illogical and often hypocritical positions. It is the same song and dance.
They will throw around words like Delusional, Santa, Elves, fairy tales, etc, etc but provide zero answers. Origins? Source of morality? Information Theory?, Epistemology? Ontology?
|2014 August 20 06:08:00 PM (10311)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 800. ||“You would not routinely visit other sites that discuss imaginary claims? or do you?” |
Which is what I have pointed out numerous times. They come back because they are hoping to convince themselves that the cultic dogma of no Creator is true.
why are there so few atheist if the dogma is so obvious? It’s because atheism is illogical, unreasonable and does not fit what human beings observe. Its really quite obvious. As a man of science, I can only follow where the facts lead.
|2014 August 19 11:08:00 PM (10321)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 790. ||“Ask him how he gets from his ?obvious? conclusion of a designer god to a personal god who intercedes? |
Dippity Dew!! You are back.
Unlike TJ, I don’t discuss semiconductor theory with with a first grade child and I don’t discuss theology with an atheist. There are prerequisites and you don’t meet them. Realizing God does exist is step one. Sorry Charlie! Check out Dawkins and his spin on Theology! Lol!!! Hilarious
What I do is point out the hypocrisy and unreasonable dogma incorporated in atheism. You run from those and change the subject when they come up because they frighten you. I understand nut you need to confront those demons.
Luv ya Dippity!
|2014 August 18 11:08:00 AM (10331)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 780. ||“Laughing off his claims is not the same as answering my question.” |
OK, T, pay attention. I laughed off his claim that I believe in a God of the Gaps. What that means is, I do not believe in a God of the Gaps. Read the second part of the sentence and it becomes clear.
“”You made no objections to his claims regarding your views?”
So why are you requiting yourself TJ. This is not even my statement it is yours….. To which I responded:
Why? Lol!!!! He claims all sorts of silliness, can?t cover all of it. Only you believed it.
Now your question. You are correct I never did see it.
Have a good week fellers. Chow
|2014 August 18 01:08:00 AM (10305)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 778. ||“So? is the Real Anonymous correct?? |
I don’t recognize the name. There is Freddie who also posts as Anonymousr.
The real Anonymous only has one handle.
|2014 August 18 01:08:00 AM (10241)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 777. ||“756 Anonymous answered on your behalf?? |
ohhhhhh! You believed F&M as he spoke for me. You missed when I laughed his claims I used God of the gaps huh? F&M has a very elementary understanding not to mention he is an atheist! Lol!!!
You know TJ, maybe you shouldn’t believe everything you hear. In other words don’t be throwing around accusations around when you don’t know what you are talking about.
“You made no objections to his claims regarding your views”
Why? Lol!!!! He claims all sorts of silliness, can’t cover all of it. Only you believed it.
|2014 August 17 03:08:00 PM (10243)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 775. ||“Is not the same as?” |
Sure thing T, spin it as you like. Mu statement stands.
“You misrepresent the words of God of the bible in the same manner when you insert millions of years”
Wham! That came out of no where! Lol!
ok, now where is my quote for that T? Any clue what you are talking about?
|2014 August 16 07:08:00 PM (10246)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 772. ||“freddies_dead is saying no such thing.” |
Really? So his F&M’s quote:
“There had been at least 4 years between the miscarriage and the 4 year old?s alleged NDE. That?s at least 4 years during which the child could have learned of his mother?s miscarriage.”
Directly conflicts with what the father and the now teenage boy claim. I heard them being interviewed. So yes, Freddie is calling them a liar. That, TJ, is the definition of the word “liar”.
Oh, and TJ, I have not read the book or seen the movie. I have no opinion on the claims so you can drop the “your belief is your will. His disbelief is his will”….whatever that is suppose to mean. Does that mean his belief could be my will?????
Carry on TJ.
|2014 August 15 05:08:00 PM (10250)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 768. ||TJ, |
Don’t you realize what F&M is saying? The family is a bunch of liars! They taught the little boy to lie. Everyone who experiences God is a liar. Only atheist tell the truth!
|2014 August 15 04:08:00 PM (10251)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 767. ||Freddie Mouse? Four posts in a row? Couldn’t you pull in Anonymouse to break the cycle? Oh well….nevertheless,,,,, |
“once thought to be the purview of deities ? from sunrises to thunder and lightning to modern biodiversity”
Identifying a process does not eliminate God. Never has……I never claimed there was a thunder God or a Lightning God…….You know some F&M? Next!
“Sure I did.”
No you didn’t……Next! lol!!!!
“This is simply not true. Atheism is not equal to astronomy. Just like atheism is not equal to science”
LOL!!!!! Agreed and where did you get that idea? Science is a pursuit of knowledge of existing processes. Those processes were put in place by God. The problem for the atheist is how to put processes in place that can create all the processes….LOL!!!!!!
“So basically you bought up the Oort cloud for nothing.”
LOL!!!, no but your obsession with it is funny. It is an example of…….careful here buddy……FAITH…..used in scientist. We have no proof of Oort actually existing but it is assumed to exist…..Faith :) Don’t obsess over it F&M. Its like macroevolution.
save the funniest for last……..
“Already done. In posts 470, 471, 539, 540, 589, 649 and 652 I gave the Objectivist position which shows creator Gods are impossible.”
ROTFL!!!!! Tada The objectivist position. Let me summarize for our readers, k?
1. For God to exist, F&M will understand How God exists
ROTFL!!!!!!! Good one F&M! Next!
|2014 August 14 10:08:00 PM (10262)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 756. ||“Well then, if you don?t agree why don?t you prove that astronomer wrong?” |
Don’t agree? With what? One MUST exist? No its not a must, but to maintain other assumptions, well for atheist it is a must. For me, existing or not changes nothing.
Which astronomer F&M? Now Freddie the Mouse, why don’t you just prove God wrong and settle the entire mater? Hmmm?
When you are done, I’ll take care of the Oort cloud.
Dippity Dew! You back!
|2014 August 14 08:08:00 PM (10263)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 755. ||“Note you only denied it, you didn?t actually show it was incorrect” |
Sure I did. It does not have the ability to disprove supernatural. No you are done!
|2014 August 14 07:08:00 PM (10264)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 754. ||“eventually distills down to putting a god into the niches and recesses of science” |
oh Freddie! Posting back to back with your multiple personalities is so lame….sigh!!!!
But OK, uoi take this one! Lol!!!
Now where do I put a God into a “niche or a “recess”?
On the contrary, I point out the silliness of atheism. The silliness of highly complex information codes evolving from soup or life popping out on non-life! That is all silliness.
Now if you believe pointing out that an i7 processor has a designer is slipping in a designer in the the “niches” and “recesses” of the modern day laptop, you are quite silly.
only difference, information coding in creation is even more complex……you so silly Freddie and mouse…..:)
|2014 August 13 05:08:00 PM (10273)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 745. ||“As I never claimed science has all the answers,” |
Just as I said, it cannot disprove the supernatural realm proving you wrong…….again and my questions still unanswered, well for you.
“On the contrary, I know no such thing”
Added to the list of things you do not know. Check….lol!!!
“Why don?t you try asking an astronomer”
I have, lol!!!!! Its only theoretical BUT it must exist silly!
|2014 August 13 03:08:00 PM (10276)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 742. ||“Science continuously shows that supernatural explanations for natural phenomena simply aren?t necessary.” |
Um, actually is does no such thing. What does that even mean? So silly!
Lets look at just a few science has zero explanation for in this…….”natural” realm
1. High information coding without intelligence
Oh and just because science has understanding of a process does nor eliminate God! Lol!!!!! We all know God put processes in place silly Freddie the mouse!!
|2014 August 12 05:08:00 PM (10279)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 739. ||You have just enjoyed another hour of The Freddie, ER, uh, Anoumouse Bible hour. Turn in next week when our exalted one will tackle Crest or Colgate? Do teeth know the difference? |
|2014 August 11 08:08:00 PM (10289)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 729. ||You have just enjoyed another hour of The Freddie, ER, uh, Anoumouse Bible hour. Turn in next week when our exalted one will tackle which came first the chicken or the egg… |
|2014 August 06 12:08:00 AM (10229)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 718. ||” take a break and get some help” |
Nah, I don’t want to be another alex/Freddie-Mouse in the atheist cult!! We have enough of you hatin out there everyday as it is. Then I would need to protest Christmas, steal baby Jesus from mangers and become ill every time I saw lines intersect one another.
Nah, I’m to busy for all that. Hold down the fort for Freddie Mouse, aight? Now go post as Freddie again…..
|2014 August 05 02:08:00 AM (10234)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 713. ||“NOBODY does crazy like you do.” |
LOL!!!!!! I know Freddie er, ah….Mouse! Imagine a person who actually believes in a God and believes this God has the ability to create a universe!!
Luv ya Freddie Mouse!
|2014 August 04 08:08:00 PM (10211)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 710. ||“fixed species? does NOT square with the evidence” |
Um, so you have witnessed macro? Lets see Freddie. Lol!!! Plenty of evidence for micro but that will not support macro until you can prove it. Sorry, you fail.
” say it has a pretty decent chance of being verified.
That would be what Freddie?
“you asked: How can it be falsified? How about with a coherent analysis of the facts”
Absolutely, as a man of science I follow where the facts lead. They do not lead from lifeless soup, to life and then all life springing from the primordial soup monster…lol!!! No facts support that silly!
“only TOE accomplishes this”
Not even close. But unlike you I don’t believe craziness just because others do…:)
I am a man of science. Bring facts, observations, testing to the table nan! Lol!!!
|2014 August 04 05:08:00 PM (10213)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 708. ||“NO!!! That?s incorrect. I said you could interpret the data, propose a hypothesis, and put it out there for peer review” |
No, a competing theory is not necessary to falsify existing work. However there are other theories out there. The questions remains, how is TOE falsified? You can’t observe it????? That is a key to falsification.
However, so how would this prove macroevolution? I already stated the method(s) the Creator used has not yet been identified by science but will be eventually.
ID proponents do have some outstanding work but you would never leave your religion yo review the work……and they ate smart Anony-Freddie……lol!!
You really should stick to one moniker. You look really stupid.!
|2014 August 04 10:08:00 AM (10221)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 700. ||“Propose a hypothesis of how the data SHOULD be interpreted” |
Peer Review? ID articles have been Peer reviewed and there are many scientist who believe, do you? Lol!!!
SO you admit falsification of macroevolution is not possible. I agree which is why it is not science. IF you cannot observe it taking place then how can it be falsified? You just keep adding assumptions and pictures :)
So how would science prove God exists? That would be step one. Start with a simpler task. We agree Socrates existed, but why? Science cannot prove he existed…..? Right? :)
|2014 August 04 02:08:00 AM (10223)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 698. ||“Like all science, it must be able to be falsifiable” |
Hey, you got something right!!!!! Wow!!!
So……how would you go about falsifying microevolution??? I mean other than it never having been observed??? Lol!!!!
|2014 August 04 01:08:00 AM (10226)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 695. ||“It is a way of thinking that will inevitably lead to deciding how to interpret the information.” |
Well yeah! Its true for all scientist except for most scientific inquiry the question of God never comes into play.
Lets take macroevolution.
God does not need to be considered when determining a fish with a bony process does not meet the burden of proof.
God does not need to be considered when determining that similarity does not equal ancestor (lol!!)
God does not need to be considered when determining that microevolution is not proof of macoevolution.
God does not need to be considered when demonstrating through information theory that high information coding does not spring from primordial soup.
God does not need to be considered when we have scientist smarter than freedie mouse all over the world doubting macroevolution. lol!!!!
LOL!!! Oh freddie mouse! You tickle me so but your conclusion that GOD is what drives doubt in macroevolution is demonstratively off the rails.
|2014 August 03 07:08:00 PM (10204)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 692. ||“I have been told not to use biblical text to support my viewpoint, so I have chosen to engage all of you on your terms. Then I am told not to do that too.? |
TJ, ignore them mate. They use a faith based belief like macro evolution as evidence of their belief. They cannot define the nature of evidence and consequently provide evidence that supports macroevolution. The do not even understand the difference between historical science and analytical science. They ate not equipped to define ground rules….lol!!!!!!
|2014 August 03 07:08:00 PM (10205)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 691. ||“You consider ?micro-evolution? or ?variation within species? and ?natural selection? to be similar things and well supported theory.” |
Absolutely. macro has never been observed and is only based on wild assumptions.
Inconclusive evidence to make the call.
|2014 August 02 07:08:00 PM (10181)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 668. ||“If you are welcoming to a discussion, I would ask how do you manage to reconcile God and evolution? ” |
I don’t see the need. God is the absolute necessary being and macroevolution is man’s attempt to explain how that Being created. The TOE gets weaker by the decade and another 50 years it will be replaced with another theory.
Don”t confuse microevolution with macro. Micro is a proven theory will macroevolutolution uses micro in a bad attempt to justify the macro theory.
|2014 August 01 11:08:00 PM (10082)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 662. ||“his god is a lot different than your god” |
Lol!!!!!!!!!!! When did I ever offer a god of gaps? Lol!!;;!!!
Oh Freddie mouse, you so funny. I don’t accept guesses, assumptions, mightofs and coldofs as proof and you get so angry. I have read many of Collins’ books and actually know him and his family from my college days. You know, he is a former atheist just like me? Many theist accept AND many do not buy into to the theory. Too much faith required.
You are right, he is much smarter than you Freddie mouse so why not believe Freddie boy? Hmmmm? Isn’t that your argument? How about I offer someone else smarter than you who does not accept the theory? You then change ur mind mate?
|2014 August 01 06:08:00 PM (10084)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 660. ||“the misinformation does get corrected. Peer review.” |
lol!!!! I know! More to cone anonymous the Freddie boy!
Now if you have evidence supporting TOE as fact… Come on back and share it buddy!
love ya Freddie mouse!….oh got some kool aid on your shirt.:) or is that sushi?!! :)
|2014 August 01 04:08:00 PM (10087)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 657. ||Freddie Mouse, why should anyone believe you. |
Lets look at your argument Collins embraces TOE, therefore all theist should?
Then it follows all evolutionist should embrace Christianity right? Yea? HMMM?
Lets face it Collins must believe. To not do so would be career suicide. Of course he writes in his books about the “fingerprints of God” being all over Creation. Smart guy seems atheist should embrace God, hmmmm?
If TOE is true, Collins has the right concept. But it hasn’t yet been proven. All the atheist have here is “this guy believes”. I will not bother to list all who do NOT believe. Lol!!!!
See ya Freddie aka Mouse.
|2014 August 01 02:08:00 PM (10089)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 655. ||“the REAL Anonymous” |
LOL!! He arrogantly sees himself as the REAL anonymous. I bet the other disagrees.
“Isn?t it wonderful how science is peer reviewed and self correcting.”
Yes it is Nebraska man, Haeckle embryos, Hahnhofersand Man, Java Man, Orce Man,Ota Benga, Ramapithecus, Ardi, just to touch the tip of the ice berg. If it is so true why the misinformation? lol!!!
Have no fear! Science will catch up, and when the the TOE deniers overtake the politically correct crowd we can start teaching the kids real science again. Problem we have is the Fanatical evolutionist do all they can to silent dissenters.
|2014 August 01 12:08:00 PM (10091)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 653. ||“There won?t be any revelations ? astounding or otherwise” |
There you have it TJ, a performative contradiction by Anonymous-Freedie.(LOL) He claims macro is true, supported with evidence but provides none! lol!!!
There was a 5 million year old portion of bone was believed to be a collarbone of a humanlike being which turned out to be in actually part of a dolphin rib. The predicament many anthropologists face is that they desire so much to discover a hominid that any piece of bone to them is a hominid bone. When you spend your life digging up bone fragments and fossils, there is a tremendous desire to heap a lot importance on those fragments??.Thus, the great pretty drawings.
Just one story among thousands of attempts, not even getting into the dishonest scientist who have falsified findings which lived on for decades as actual “proof”.
|2014 August 01 01:08:00 AM (10103)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 641. ||“How come you NEVER challenged anything I?ve written regarding evolution” |
Nothing to challenge Freedie Mouse. Fish with bony protrusions, similarities, fossils dressed up with artistic dressing does NOT NoT NOT prove evolution. You are uneducated on the subject and you make it so obvious.
Keep drinking your Kool Aid until you decide to be a freethinker :)
|2014 July 31 11:07:00 PM (10106)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 638. ||TJ, |
sigh…..see how atheist work? Ask for evidence and proof for macro evolution and they go off on a rant about God. Disappointment again….lol!!!. They actually talk about God more than the theist…..
Freedie the Mouse once offered up a bony process on a fish as proof!! Lol!!!
|2014 July 31 08:07:00 PM (10108)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 636. ||” |
macro is well supported by the evidence”
This so awesome!! We are going to finally get some evidence. This is really exciting.
OK Freddie or Mouse or whoever you want to post as…
Give us your definition of the nature evidence.
Second as an atheist your evidence should eliminate God as a possible Creator. Remember, evolution for you, the atheist, is suppose to eliminate God.
TJ this is big lets get ready foe some astounding revelations!!!
The popcorn is popping…… :)
|2014 July 31 11:07:00 AM (10119)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 625. ||“In my understanding, spontaneous transition from non living chemicals and atoms into the first simple, self replicating life form is the cornerstone of evolutionary theory” |
You are correct TJ. This is not just true for macroevolution but for any concept. The foundation for any concept, like a building, is it’s foundation. In this case, both macro and abio are only speculative at best.
lol!!!! Freddie mouse posting twice under his separate monikers. NICE!!! Lol!!!!!
|2014 July 30 06:07:00 PM (10125)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 619. ||“What is the alternative?what would be correct?” |
Great question TJ. Associating the various abio theories with macroevolution is the correct scenario. macro is dependent on abiogensis. For atheists, the alternatives are so silly they are embarrassed by them. Alien seeding, spontaneous generation, miller-urey, Proteinoid microspheres, etc but none would produce the high information needed for DNA…….unless Anony-Freedie can prove it…..:)
Remember, for atheists none of these needed intelligence to take place.
|2014 July 30 12:07:00 PM (10129)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 615. ||“That took all of, what, 5 minutes?” |
lol!!!, oh Freddie Mouse! I have heard this same stuff for 50 years and I bought in. Do you think your snippets are new? Really mate, you are not original here. lol!!!
“incorrectly make an association of evolution with abiogenesis”
lol!!! are you really this uninformed? This is like saying orange juice is not associated with the orange!
|2014 July 30 03:07:00 AM (10131)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 613. ||“And just keep going. See what you come up with.” |
OK,done!………..So what did you conclude Freddie Mousey?? Time & Chance? soup? High information systems randomly forming from lifeless soup? That your conclusion?
|2014 July 30 12:07:00 AM (10136)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 608. ||“I would suggest discussing something science related like: we share 98+% of DNA with chimpanzees” |
ok, yes and you conclude what? Let me guess, life exploded from the oceans, time and chance, climbs ashore time and chance bacteria becomes a chimp and wallah! A man appears!! Lol!!!! Yes? Who needs s Grand Designer, huh??
“Don?t make me laugh”
Too late Freddie mouse!!
|2014 July 29 01:07:00 PM (10139)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 605. ||TJ, |
Anonymous aka Freddie is not very creative. The aliases now are posting as another anonymous.
What is fun is watching Alex attack other atheist because he cannot comprehend when other atheists post!
|2014 July 29 12:07:00 AM (10143)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 601. ||Freddie Mouse, |
Admission your faith is faulty?
The jury is still out. I don’t need a competing theory to recognize a bad theory. What I do know is if macroevolution one day IS PROVEN to be true, it will just be more proof of God. Seems HIGHLY unlikely. At the moment, it has nothing other than assumptions and creative drawings. That’s it!! :)
A Recovered Believer
|2014 July 28 10:07:00 PM (10145)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 599. ||” You subscribe to silly 1850-ish biblical thinking” |
lol!!!! I never said a word about the Bible…..lol!!! Which goes to show you accept it on faith. That’s OK……vling to your fish fossil:)
I do think for myself and I know for a FACT macro evolution has never been proven……it is simply the dogma of the day based a huge number of assumptions and creative drawings.
|2014 July 28 08:07:00 PM (10147)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 597. ||“Along comes this Darwin fellow” |
and claimed “timediddit”..Nope, that does not provide the evidence to support macroevolution. Lol!!!!
Time to pull out the fish fossil Anonymous aka Freddie? :)
|2014 July 28 01:07:00 PM (10153)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 591. ||TJ, |
Her is a great example of assumptions and biases from Anonymous (aka Freddie).
“science points to the big bang, evolution, etc”
Does science really point to these theories or are they based on conclusions ripe with bias and presuppositions?
The later of course. The Facts do not speak and the creationist and the Evolutionist use the same facts.
|2014 July 28 12:07:00 AM (10170)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 574. ||“If I am to limit myself to only considering that which can be proven only. Then how far will I be able to run with it?” |
I think you may be confusing science with truth. Science is an epistemological endeavor and as such makes conclusions that may or may not be true. Consequently, scientist come into the endeavor with their own presuppositions, their biases, and is some instances beliefs they must embrace by their peers. Yes, science in some instances is influenced by politics.
So what can be proven to be truth? Evolution? Climate Change? God? It all depends on who the inquiry is made to and what they have decided to accept as evidence. The nature of evidence is a crucial point in this process.
Analytical science is typically straightforward. The gate voltage of a BJT transistor, the Ph of an acidic solution, semiconductor conductivity, etc are just a few examples. However historical sciences lend themselves to untestable assumptions and inherent biases that skew the resulting conclusions. macroevolution is a great example here.
Good luck mate and thanks for sharing your experience.
|2014 July 26 07:07:00 PM (10074)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 562. ||TJ |
what science does reject is that if A is not true, that it follows A’ is also not true. The faulty logic and rhetoric one must, unfortunately, hear from atheist…..volcanos . … Virgins…..Santian religion…….elves, …..blah blah blah…..lol!!!!!
|2014 July 26 02:07:00 PM (10014)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 557. ||“Science rejects the concept of a soul, and therefore does not account for it.” |
Untrue TJ, science only rejects that which it can disprove. Just as science does not reject “little green men”(SETI), Science also does not reject the soul/spirit (Biocentrism).
I cannot express myself as clearly as alexis (that silver tongued rascal, lol), but I do hope the point is made
|2014 July 25 03:07:00 PM (10024)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 547. ||“You should also look up ?ad hominem? ? not just for the correct spelling either ? it?s a fallacy where you attack the person rather than the argument they present.” |
Yes, which you practice regularly. The tactics of a weaponless man? My sincere apologies for the typo…..another diversion.
“As you?re disputing my definition it would be nice to know on what basis you?re calling it wrong.”
Disputing? LOL!! Nothing to dispute, you only use words like “reality” and you define none of them. I might dispute once you define :)
“When you said I didn?t have ?the propensity to exhaust every possible scenario?
You do not have the propensity to eliminate a majority of scenarios do you? How to you test and eliminate the possibility of God Fred? What % of possible scenarios do you think you CAN eliminate? Hmmm?
“Why, because of the axioms existence, consciousness and identity coupled with the metaphysical primacy of existence of course.”
Indeed! So you, as an atheist, have a universal accepted premise of existence that eliminates God!!! Please illuminate on the topic. This one interest me the most. Is THIS your reality? This should be good! I may get my popcorn out.
|2014 July 25 12:07:00 PM (10037)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 534. ||“You really are an idiot.” |
“I note you fail to give your own definition of truth”
Attempt to change the subject. I made no truth claim, you did.
“Truth depends on reality. The facts of reality inform truth.”
Yet you fail….AGAIN….to define truth and reality.
“You?re essentially requiring omniscience in order to know things.”
Actually, no I never did.
“the metaphysical primacy of existence rules out any possibility of a creator God.”
How do you know? Based on what? The, show us this truth claim.
|2014 July 25 12:07:00 AM (10047)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 524. ||Oh Freddie! |
Gave you all day and you couldn’t
Tell us what are your facts? What is your reality? Why should they be ours? Freddie? Well?
Lets watch this unfold??
|2014 July 24 03:07:00 PM (10055)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 516. ||Oj Freddie you smooth talking rascal. I luv you too buddy! |
“I can?t tell you what it is for all atheists”
then he comes back with….
“Truth is the identification of a fact of reality”
So the implication is all atheists have different truths? Hmmmmm, I though truth did not change?????
Then Freddie claims to have another variation of truth. First he has reality. He claims his reality is truth. What is that reality?
His second ingredient of Truth is facts. What are those facts?
A fish with a bony process proves macro evolution? Lol!!!! No, not a fact proving macro but a very creative assumption…..yes! Lol!!!!!
So what ate his facts? What his his reality? Freddie?
Lets watch this unfold……
|2014 July 24 02:07:00 AM (10058)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 513. ||“if I were to say, troll a website of people like you who don?t believe” |
Hmmmm, are you implying that this blog is only for atheist? So why all the efforts to evangelize and convert theist to atheist? Hmmm?
For the record I welcome Santians like yourself in all areas of the net. I rather enjoy your kind :)
“I guess that would make me a real douche bag, huh”
Well, you said it…lol!!!! But I luv ya babe!
Respecting the rights of Santians around the world!!
|2014 July 23 11:07:00 PM (10060)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 511. ||“truth is a concept you can?t account for in your inherently subjective Christian worldview” |
Freddie, tell us what truth is for an atheist? Can you? Science? Is that it?
prediction: Freddie runs and refuses to answer even this simple question
“I contend Santa is real”
lol!!!!!!! OK, I have no need to convince you otherwise. I have all the evidence I need…its all good Santian! Lol!!!!! I allow Santians to live without persecution ????
|2014 July 23 01:07:00 AM (10013)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 497. ||“you can?t/won?t even contemplate other gods” |
Sure I will…….hold on…..
Ok done. I contemplated other Gods……..um no fear there…..is that it Alexis? Thanks for caring bra!
lol!!!!!! Luv ya Alex! You are a such a great ambassador for the faith bro!
|2014 July 22 11:07:00 PM (9957)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 495. ||“So, you think asking Santa for something and not receiving it is a valid reason to doubt his existence” |
Dob’t you. Thats so sad… Um, no not at all. I know the history of Santa, so that really nails it down for me. Not to mention my other evidence.
But hey, you believe Dippity, lol;!!!. And what I won’t do…..as a Real unbeliever is constantly cuss and hate on you for being a Santian nor will I argue his non-existence with you. REAL unbelievers have no need!
Alex, love ua babe but God has been proven time and time again babe.
Good day mates
|2014 July 22 05:07:00 PM (9964)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 488. ||“Santa?s workshop is invisible to satellite imagery, silly” |
Really? According to all available writings that is not true…..making you……a liar.
Santa disproven silly.
“Who?s doing the persecuting”
In China, Cuba and Russia it is atheists. Can you call your dogs off there Dippity?
|2014 July 22 04:07:00 PM (9969)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 483. ||“Alex, when their delusions are exposed and their arguments dismissed they always resort to either the persecution” |
ROTFL!!! Sure they do……..no persecution anywhere especially in the Middle East!! Lol!!!!
No Santa, been to the North Pole and studied satellite imagery. So stop believing Dippy and Alexander! I also have posted cameras at numerous fireplaces on the Eve……nope no Santa!
|2014 July 21 01:07:00 AM (9944)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 429. ||TJ, |
Great job demolishing DPKs illogical rationalizations while in the process causing Alex to meltdown.
I dunno seems to be all the atheist have to offer which is why the cult of atheism remains small, irrelevant, without answers and hope.
The funniest claim by atheist is that when science discovers a new scientific law or truth they believe they have disproved God!!
|2014 July 20 07:07:00 PM (9922)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 417. ||Contest’ |
Do we believe the claims of 2Dumb4WordsofGod or Dippy?
One claims God created everything and set creation into motion. Dippy claims everything created itself (chuckle).
No contest, a Creator is logical, essential and fits the evidence.
Case dismissed. DPK, pay your court costs on the way out.
|2014 July 19 05:07:00 PM (9893)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 395. ||“Good bye Alex, as requested, I won?t bother you any more” |
ROTFL!!!!!!! can’t blame you TJ . He gets boring fast eh? I think alexander is just a robot posting…lol!!!. I have seen this so many times but yet the Obamamanaics claim the theist run off the posters!!!
No TJ this is not a site for discussion as claimed. It is, however comic relief. Just poke alex with a stick occasionally for fun! But hey, remain reasonable, continue learning and engage in conversation with the open minded individuals.
|2014 July 18 11:07:00 AM (9904)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 384. ||“What we believe, is determined more so, by what we reject. As opposed to what we can prove or provide evidence for.? |
No this is not a rational statement. You refuse to define the nature of evidence as you see it so we cannot speculate any further.
|2014 July 17 11:07:00 AM (9888)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 376. ||“To accept evolution, you must reject Gods creation process” |
Not necessarily TJ. I do not accept evolution simply because it is not even close to being proven. Micro is used in a lame attempt to support macro and that just does not work. The topper? It is now political and we all know how much truth there is in politics! Lol!!!
I do agree god haters want it to be true so badly that they will in faith place their trust in evolution. They really have no other alternative.
|2014 July 16 11:07:00 AM (9863)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 363. ||TJ, |
You still never addressed the nature of evidence as I outlined above.
This is important since we have those who claim they only believe what they claim is ” fact based” when in reality it is faith. They do not understand the nature of evidence. i.e. A fish fossil with a bony protrusion proves macro evolution.
Second, are you aware of the various types of creationism which are embraced by many? Gap theory, progressive, etc?
Evolution vs Christianity is not even an issue. Christianity is about accepting Christ and who he claimed to be.
|2014 July 16 03:07:00 AM (9869)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 357. ||TJ, |
None of use ever carry on a discussion with alex. You see why, just scroll past his posts, chuckle and ignore him. You see the MO, the bitterness and the sickness. He can only be helped when he desires help.
Its sad, but I throw him a compliment here and there to keep him off the ledge.
“What we believe, is determined more so, by what we reject. As opposed to what we can prove or provide evidence for.”
Evidence is a broad term. Define you usage of the term. Empirical? Demonstrative? Documentary? Testimonial?
|2014 July 15 12:07:00 PM (9852)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 344. ||TJ |
You see above how it works. DP, above illustrates the point. He believes a master propagandist like Hitler was a Christian just because he states so at one time. Many of the atheist here at one time claimed to be Christians as well, so….with their logic we can still call them Christians….Right?
Never mind Hitler was a master politican and great use of propaganda, never mind he murdered many Christians who dared to resist his Nazi regime. Never mind his many quotes against religion in general lol!!!
Great Day to All!!
|2014 July 13 06:07:00 PM (9842)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 333. ||TJ, |
The “Hitler Exercise” is simply atheist making the following logic fallacy.
Hitler was evil
I will allow you to draw from the exercise the inherent fallacies in the conclusions and the corresponding presuppositions. Insert Crusades, Salem witch trials and Abortion MD killings for more such exercises.
|2014 July 11 01:07:00 AM (9840)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 421. ||“found Christianity to be the most dangerous of them all.” |
Ohhhh, that was so funny! What a hilarious claim!!!!
Mr Firm thanks for the comedy bit. Where do you do this “study” on religions? Lol!!!!!! On WWGHA? On atheist blogs? Maybe the Richard Dawkins school of world religions? Lol!!!!!!!!!
|2014 July 10 04:07:00 PM (9824)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 324. ||ND thank you for attending Freddie Mouse’s Bible study. Freddie Mouse will be sill be lecturing weekly on Biblical truths and Systematic Theology. Turn in next week for another action packed adventure with Freddie the Mouse. |
But be doesn’t REALLY believe……sshhhh…
|2014 July 09 02:07:00 PM (9809)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 302. ||” you?d be able to point to it as evidence?” |
Yep time and time again here, there, in the past in the present, in books, in lecture, in classrooms through logic, through philosophy, through science and then just good ol’ common sense.
lol!!!!!!! Then there is your obsession with arguing against something you “claim’ does not exist!!
Get in an AA chapter and leave the cult. Oh and get your theology from a reputable source not atheist blogs…. Lol!!!!
|2014 July 09 12:07:00 AM (9807)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 292. ||“you I can imagine such a concept easily enough.” |
Of course, even the mentality challenged understand the obvious realty of a Creator. Alcoholics deny they are alcoholics and since help is available at an AA group, you should seek out your own AA.
“evidence for your God but then refuse to present it.”
Been there done that bought the T-shirt. Your denial of the obvious facts does not make them any less the reality. Step 3 in the Atheist Anonymous handbook….
Hi Alex, luv ya babe!
|2014 July 07 02:07:00 PM (9793)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 284. ||alex |
Hey baby! I luv you man. You are a paradigm of atheist virtue and a lighthouse to which we all should point our kids to emulate! We all swoon at your grasp of the English language and you ability to make it come alive with flowery elegance.
LOL!!!, I luv you too man.
So, you have a difficult time with the concept of a God who can create and sustain an entire universe being involved in the everyday lives of human beings, living on a blue dot, tucked away in a small solar system, on an insignificant galaxy in the tremendously huge universe?
lol!!!!, oh yeah! That is way too difficult….lol!!!!
Be nice fellas!
|2014 July 05 01:07:00 PM (9768)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 86. ||“You seem to attack anyone who posts here in an attempt to make them feel silly or dumb for not believing as you do.” |
Whoa, he is the guy who jumps on the horse and runs off in all directions!!!!!
He has inadvertently attacked atheists here before not even realizing they were atheists!! lol!!
Nobody is offended or takes offense. Its like watching Homer Simpson attempt to run a nuclear plant. Enjoy the antics and be grateful he is confined to home beating his dog.
|2014 July 03 06:07:00 PM (9689)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 45. ||Lol!!!!! |
Whoa consider another observation. If Alex agreed with me on anything…..I would need to seriously reconsider my entire epistemological paradigm. So Alex the atheist’s tactics further reinsures which side is deserves serious consideration.
|2014 July 01 11:07:00 PM (9641)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 241. ||Lol!!!! |
Nothing cutier than atheist theologians!!
Alex, you sweet talking rascal….you had at the first and hundredth f-bomb!……lol!!!!
|2014 June 25 05:06:00 PM (9694)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 40. ||“what is your take on how WE even came about or got here” |
Let me keep it simple. They believe highly complex information systems evolved from non-life…..in a planet full of lifeless soup…..without any intelligence involved.
No really, they truly believe this. They might believe the new WTC also evolved from the rubble of the last WTC!!
|2014 June 24 11:06:00 PM (9600)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 511. ||TJ asked: |
“Please, are there any Atheist or Agnostics or anyone who would be open to a thought provoking discussion on origins and the possibility of the existence of a God?
TJ, that answer would be no!. lol!!! You already have seen all alex has to offer. He is fun to poke a stick at but is full or anger and hate.
God does not exist because we reject theist arguments.
Atheist rejection of theist argument does not validate arguments.
The cult of atheism remains small because the vast majority of individuals cannot live in the atheist fantasy world.
It is really simple logic to reject atheism.
|2014 June 23 10:06:00 PM (9578)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 492. ||“I choose to believe you are not so narrow minded as to not discuss the alternative to what you say is nonsense, surely?” |
Actually TJ he is…….lol!!!!!
You can read one of his posts and you have then read all he has the ability to contribute….lol!!!
A small little cult like atheism has a group who teaches evangelism and one would certainly conceive that they jave more than ” uh uh” as the backbone of their apologetic confession. However we continue to wait as it supposedly develops?
|2014 June 20 05:06:00 PM (9555)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 204. ||“So, because others are credulous fools we should be just like them?” |
We don’t feel like we should be like the atheist cult! Lol!!! Atheism us just plain foolishness like all other cults!
|2014 May 21 04:05:00 PM (9541)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1151. ||“I pray that the owner of this site will listen to the voice he struggles with everyday before his hour comes.” |
However website history from the past have his name associated with WWGHA him as the “Brain” behind the site. He made some money and moved on. Only some silly folks would buy anything this site sells.
|2014 May 12 07:05:00 PM (9522)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1309. ||ROTFL, and again Freddie mouse puppeteers and dodges simple questions. Eventually your head must come out of the sand. |
Nothing new here!!!! Lol!!!!!
luu ya Freddie mouse! :)
|2014 May 11 12:05:00 PM (9518)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1301. ||“Did you write this with your head up your ass?” |
No I am not an atheist that should be clear…
“obsessing that Freddie is mousey. Do you see the irony”
Yes, I admit I keep letting you change the topic.
“Now, AGAIN, what standard is the one and only true standard?”
I don’t know Freddie mouse. You judged God as immoral and claimed you used the values of man and refuse to tell us what they are…..lol!!!!
You won’t share but still luv ya Freddie mouse. Can only assume you know you are in a corner and therefore continue to change the subject.
|2014 May 11 02:05:00 AM (9511)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1297. ||ROTFL!!!!! |
This is to good to be real. Never has any posters been more obsessed than Freddie aka anonymous with handles on a blog. Another dead give away along with Freddie posting as anonymous….lol!!!!
Personally, you can assume I am everyone on the blog. Fine, go for it Freddie aka Mouse. I mean seriously, lol!!!!!!, I left Jr High many years ago. I even agrees I am everyone but you still obsess…..
But will you answer the questions which have sliced up your tenuous worldview? Nah, discussing people is not as frightening….right?
luv ya Freddie mouse
Alex, you are begging for attention. Luv ya buddy.
|2014 May 10 04:05:00 PM (9507)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1292. ||“Only one moron on the blog has been verified as having multiple sock disorder” |
Lol!!!!Yes, and you can give it up…..
” Remember when you confessed to it??”
Yes, because I am honest, you are a liar. Keep playing…..it is entertaining and fun.
Here is a hint, change your approach with your second sock. It might sell better. But HEY! Or one of your socks actually answered the question that would really sell!!! ROTFL!
luv ya Freddie mouse!!! :)
|2014 May 10 12:05:00 AM (9504)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1288. ||ROTFL!!!!!! |
Freddie mouse again fails to give the standard he uses to judge God and the silly goose comes back as anonymous!!!
All he has is personal attacks. Lol!!!!!!!!
It doesn’t get any funnier than watching Freddie back himself into corner after corner….
Still waiting for those “objective standard which takes account of man?s values?
Another Freddie absolute he cannot define.
Cue: word salads anonymous rants, diversions and silliness…..lol!!!!
|2014 May 08 03:05:00 PM (9497)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1279. ||“I also never claimed we should all use the standard I adhere to” |
Well how would we know? It may be wonderful, incredible, amazing but you refuse to tell us what it is??????? We what to share in your wisdom! Don’t hold it on, share with us!
You judge God’s actions, but cannot provide the standard. Lying and claiming you provided information only puts you on the level of a politicians.
Understandable, they dance around the questions too!! Lol!!!!!!
Try again there chief. :)
“they could use an objective standard which takes account of man?s values”
Hmmmmmm, I am a man. What are those values there Freddie mouse? Let me guess, another salad…..no answer…..lol!!!!!
|2014 May 08 12:05:00 PM (9494)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1277. ||“Obviously we can all imagine a deity capable of logically assigning punishments that are proportionate to the crimes committed, but that god is still entirely imaginary.” |
Ok, after meandering through Freddie mouse’s word salad, I pulled out another claim……well……the same claim only reworded and still no answer……I know! Incredible is it not?
Freddie mouse, se need to know how you concluded Gods punishments are unjust? AGAIN, what is the standard and is it one we all should use and why? No changing the subject, just an answer.
Prediction: Another word salad…pass the Balsamic vinegrette with some croutons of more diversions……lol!!!!!!!
|2014 May 08 01:05:00 AM (9491)||[A The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1274. ||Freddie Mouse!! You silly goose. Is the word salad all you have? lol!!! |
Lets review. You claim God punishing a finite (sic) crime with infinite punishment was unjust. You were asked what this “unjust” conclusion was based on. You answer with diversions.
You come back with questions about God’s existence
You come back with a lie that I claimed God was just. I made no judgment.
You, Louie and Dewey come back with insults……well an attempt at insults…..lol!!!!
Is that it? Is that all you have? No standard? No proof a crime is finite? No proof God is unjust outside of a freedie the mouse opinion?
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!! that is very very sad, lame and weak.
I am a wonderful person with remarkable patience. I’ll give you another shot. Bring back Anonymous if need be…..
|2014 May 05 10:05:00 PM (9486)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1268. ||“Can you somehow prove that god exists” |
Been done time and time again chevy man. And hey, your fellow atheist is the one who claimed God’s punishment as unfair …..not me. And existence is not the issue…..the morality of God’s punishment is the subject so stop dodging.
Help Freddie mouse out…….what standard do you guys use to declare God’s punishment is “unfair”?
|2014 May 05 03:05:00 PM (9483)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1266. ||ROTFL!!!!!!!! |
Oh chevy man you silly goose! Get in the game man!
Now, for a God, who exists outside of time, since God created time, the event is a permanent fixture on the timeline and exists permanently. Way beyond your understanding so need to attempt a response. :)
|2014 May 02 03:05:00 PM (9470)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1251. ||“funny. That someone is so in love with their delusion” |
Oh Freddie, help me silly goose. But I will need proof of this “delusion” you claim exists. Looking forward to the evidence so we can free 80% of the world;; lol!!!!!!!
ROTFL!!! Funny how the crackpots claim all others are in a delusion!
“Of course nowhere have I actually claimed that my judgment is better than all others”
Then the judgment of a deity who created all is probably be more logical than yours? Hmm? Maybe? Could it be you don’t know all the particulars the Deity might know Crackpot Freddie?
Since it is just your opinion, you offered nothing of value other than a cracked pot.
“morality based on objective reason”
Great! Let see the process you used!! This is exciting! Popcorn is out and ready!!!!
Prediction: we will get nothing from crackpot Freddie mouse
Then answer the question rather than talking to yourself. The event ALWAYS exists on the timeline and God is not restricted by time. Checkmate! Lol!!!!!
Fteddie mouse is such a silly goose. He needs to bring mouse back to help him out of his mess. :)”
|2014 May 01 10:05:00 PM (9463)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1247. ||Oh Freddie Mouse you silly goose! Is a word salid another term for, “You are speaking above my grade level”? |
Freddie! An event that takes place remains on the time line indefinitely. Wake up my young ward.
Now, ignoring you vast post of nothing, simply tell us why your determination of Gods punishment is unfair? You know, this infinite punishment for a supposed finite crime? Lol!!!! I thought morality was relative??……..lol!!!!!!
So what makes you judgment better than all others…
Getting the popcorn out, got my chair…..this should be great!!!!
Prediction: no answer, just dancing with his sock puppets.
|2014 April 27 05:04:00 PM (9451)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1235. ||“Just EXPLAIN: how is it normal to love your enemy” |
Explain loving enemies when you cannot define what love is? Lol!!!!
Then you give us test cases using the word love? Lol!!!!!!!!
Being like Jesus, loving your enemies, is what the world needs. Not more hatred like chevy man has for his enemies. Feelings come and go, real love does not. Look at the hatted alex has for everyone who posts here. Wanna be like that chevy man??
|2014 April 26 08:04:00 PM (9438)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1224. ||“I honestly said I don?t have it, now let us see yours” |
I know, which is why you are incapable of understanding what loving a neighbor means. Asking me to tutor you will not happen. You need to grow up and learn like an adult.
For you, love is what you felt for a girl when you were a child. Some grow up and some don’t. When you grow up, you will realize that love is more than a “feeling”.
And you claimed you read the Bible many times…..lol!!!!!!!!! Answer is in there, do some study chevy man.
Let me go back to my nightmare….ROTFL!!!!!!!!!
|2014 April 26 01:04:00 PM (9433)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1219. ||“I don?t need a command to love somebody.” |
That’s because your definition of love is a sophomoric silly goose feel like it love. I mean yeah, lol!!!!!!, anyone can do that.
We already see your hate for theists so your type of love is conditional and child-like.
:) luv ya chevy man!
|2014 April 25 07:04:00 PM (9415)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1207. ||Oh chevy man you are such a silly goose! |
Ok, lets set the ground rules.
Define love in the chevy man world? I get the strong impression your version of love is this silly goose definition that is permissive and allows the object of your love to do any and all things and never allowing the object of your love to expedience consequences.
Would I, as is typical, be correct?
|2014 April 25 06:04:00 PM (9417)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1205. ||chevy man said |
“You got so crazy in your irrational hate,that you don?t know what you talk.”
ROTFL!!!!!!!!Atheists are so over the top so ridiculously girly men…. Lol!!!!! Yes I am so full of hate chevy man. Only… That is your atheist buddies spewing the hate….lol!!!!!! chevy man is the boy who runs home with his ball…..lol!!!
Freddie mouse slid in and still refused to answer the questions…..no surprise.
“Seriously? You?re going to carry on claiming that an action that is no longer occurring (i.e. a specific robbery or a specific murder) is infinite”
Yes, it occurred and results last infinitely…..the actions exists in the scale of time infinitely. Prove wrong mousey….lol!!!!!
“A murder is a murder is a murder, however, it?s still a finite action”
wrong again, if so why do men spend a lifetime paying. The action and the results are infinite in the scale of time.
And the one mousey ran from”
P1-2. Infinite punishment for a finite crime is disproportionate”
Prove it, provide source showing it disproportionate. The crime as finite has already been proven false.
we can stop there since his first premise is based in opinion until he provides a source other than…..Freddie mouse…..lol!!!
Prediction$: Freddie Mouse runs or attempts to come in as his other ego. Source? History
|2014 April 25 11:04:00 AM (9407)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1195. ||“Every North American Indian, every Aborigine and every Bushman, or Eskimo, or Chinese, or ancient Greek” |
They did? They loved their enemy? Um, don’t think so chevy Man. And, since God created all things then it is natural that God impressed upon the conscious basic right and wrong. Knowing is not man’s problem. Admitting man is not as good as they think they are is man’s problem as you so wonderfully demonstrated.
And thanks chevy Man, you proved man does have fee will as some of your atheist buddies deny.
I see Freddie mouse ran as I predicted. Can’t teach a mouse new tricks.
|2014 April 24 10:04:00 PM (9395)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1185. ||“infinite punishment for a finite crime contradicts the claim that God is just” |
This is so wonderful!!!!
OK, prove crimes are only finite. When is the crime no longer a crime and provide your source for this determination.
Second, prove that God is unjust in His punishment. What is this moral claim based on?
Prediction$: Freddie Mouse runs or attempts to come in as his other ego. Source? History….
|2014 April 23 11:04:00 PM (9373)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1159. ||Alex, |
I do have a website for you. Hope this helps ol’ buddy.
|2014 April 23 11:04:00 PM (9374)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1158. ||“That is why I kindly asked you to point parts of the Bible that YOU accept and follow as YOUR moral absolutes.” |
Sorry……..you can’t have it both ways. You cannot be an atheist and understand absolutes as determined by an infinite deity.
“To help me to become moral!”
You claimed above you are moral,,,,,,,and in your past posts. What? You a liar now?
“But you permanently avoid answering that extremely simple question!”
lol!!!1 I did? I just did and you are a liar. You atheist think you can have moral absolutes while not even believing in a divine law-giver. Not possible chevy Sevy! lol!!!!
“But I WANT to feel moral!”
Lying some more, part of your moral code? Feeling come and go chevy. You need to look for truth and give up this “feeling” whim. You sound like a 15 year old girl. But you made some progess. You now understand this relative morality stupidity is not workable.
“PZ Meyers! We are talking you and me.”
No, we are talking about you and PZ!!! You both suffer from relative morality. I set the tone around here chevy.
|2014 April 23 09:04:00 PM (9371)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1154. ||“present a morality test and” |
lol!!!!!!! You just failed!
“if atheists lack morals”
Impossible in atheist land all atheist are moral….right? Oh silly Alex this is way above your understanding.
Luv ya Alex, I still say you are the best and a wonderful example for all children. I bet Severin agrees with me!
blog open until further notice….
|2014 April 23 08:04:00 PM (9369)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1152. ||Oh Severin I see how this works. For you there is no such thing as morality. It is just your opinion vs opinion. |
Of course you get to decided when it is and is not OK to lie, steal, cheat, slander etc and then claim your act was moral based on circumstances
What a great system Severin. In your world, you can always be moral because you declare it so. Sort of like your name-calling.
PZ Meyers, an atheist, declares in some cultures rape was OK. He can’t declare another’s morality wrong. He is just another man. With relative morality it is not possible for an act to be wrong. Its all just opinion.
|2014 April 23 04:04:00 PM (9352)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1150. ||“People and things ? like crimes ? don?t last for ever.” |
Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Once a crime is committed that event in time never changes and does remain idefinitrly ( that means always). You are so silly Freddie mouse with your silly reasoning.
For you to tell a deity what the deity should do as punishment is silly as well. Thanks for a good laugh today.
Another claim to absolutes. Share them and the source please. Can you guys get on the same page?
|2014 April 22 10:04:00 PM (9338)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1119. ||“Don?t kill, don?t rape, don?t steal, be kind, be compassionate, help people as” |
Then can you let the other atheist know? They claim there is NO SUCH THING as moral absolutes.
PZ Meyers claims rape is ok is some societies because the society has deemed it ok.
Here, on this blog, atheist claim it is ok to lie and steal. How do we know we are dealing with a moral atheist or and atheist who we need to keep our hands on our wallet when we deal with?
I wish you guys could come to a consensus.
|2014 April 19 10:04:00 PM (9309)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1093. ||“infinite torment for finite crimes” |
lol!!!!!!!! What is a “finite crime”? In atheist world is a crime no longer committed after like 10 yrs? 20yrs?
oh Freddie mouse you are a card. I especially enjoy how atheists have determined what is moral, immoral, what is a finite crime and if and when it should be punished when they have no moral absolutes!!!
|2014 April 10 11:04:00 AM (9270)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1053. ||Poor Alex, he has no one to curse at and target his hatred at here. He cannot attack the woman here with B***ch because everyone is gone. He can just languish in his own hate and bigotry. It”s easy to be a tough guy behind the screen |
I am shutting down the blog.. Good night.
|2014 April 07 02:04:00 AM (9258)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1046. ||“alex, you do not have to cuss in order to get respect or power.” |
Messenger actually he does have the need. He is a little man, rejected by society. Cursing at others while hiding behind his computer makes him feel like he has power. Let him have his moment. Yhr poor kid has nothing else.
|2014 April 07 01:04:00 AM (9699)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 35. ||“If only if you survive after all these negative words about God” |
Ignorance knows no bounds Sandra. This site is like a little cult of elitist who have convinced themselves God is not. Its silly but they play their little game. Alex is a graduate of the WWGHA finishing school. Isn’t he just precious!
|2014 April 03 11:04:00 PM (9208)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1012. ||Oh Alex!! You have such a way with words. You have fun with your book. You deserve it. Luv ya babe! Mean it! :)|
|2014 April 03 10:04:00 PM (9205)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1010. ||“who said i was trying to inspire mankind?” |
Oh alex, but you do! You are a silver tongue rascal…you are! That’s why I luv ya babe!
Your flowery language and the books you like to keep are an inspiration to all mankind. We need more like you bro.
Keep up the good work! Luv ya Alex! :)
|2014 April 03 09:04:00 PM (9203)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 1008. ||Messenger, |
Isn’t Alex such a joy? His love for mankind is inspiring. Everyone should hold him as an inspiration for all! Alex is what is right in the world
Luv ya Alex. :)
|2014 April 01 05:04:00 PM (9184)||[The Prickly Science Guy] wwgha link 991. ||OOOPS, my dishonesty….changing my handle. |
“Nope. I have never claimed to be ?Anonymous?.”
Which is why you are a liar Johnny.
“Which ones? And what evidence do you have to prove they?ve done the same as you”
Evidence? You wouldn’t know anything about that. Lol!!!!! Ah, we have you for one :).
“Wait ? what? It?s obsessive compulsive to be honest now?”
Honest? Lol!!!!!! No Johnny, obsessing over the handles of bloggers is OC. You and Alex have fun with that.
Let us know when you will offer up proof for macro, the standards of morality or any of the other many holes in your worldview Johnny.
lol!!! Oh the childishness……
|2014 April 01 12:04:00 PM (9180)||[Science Guy] wwgha link 988. ||“However, I?ve never used any of those names to try and mislead people into thinking they?re dealing with someone other than me” |
Well, Johnny Nods, that because you are obsessive compulsive. Get help with your obsession.
Not to mention you are a hypocrite and a liar as you post back to back attempting to be two different posters. Don’t lie Johnny!!! YOU HAVE BEEN BUSTED USING BOTH HANDLES IN THE PAST!!
lol!!!!! Along with other atheists in the past.
I on the other hand have always made my idenity obvious. But Johnny Nods, did you hear Dippity Dew like likes Angus? Lol!!!!!
But Johnny………regardless of the handle……..I am the same wonderful guy! I son”t care what handle you use Nods. Your beliefs are weak, silly and ridiculous regardless of the handle :) That’s what counts.
Luv ya Johnny Nods!!!
|2014 March 31 07:03:00 PM (9174)||[Science Guy] wwgha link 984. ||“When you dishonestly post under another name” |
ROTFL!!!!!!! Yes, I have used a couple of diff handles. But alas, none of them are honest. None of the handles ate my real name.
So do they call you Mr Dead? Freddie? Or just Mouse? Be honest now……don’t make up fake names silly boy! lol!!!!!!!!
Wow! This is too funny! A bunch of boys obsessed over names.
“Breaking Story”. I am now Science Guy. :)
|2014 March 28 10:03:00 PM (9150)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 977. ||“Again, you?ve completely failed to explain how you posted as user RL WOOTEN” |
I typed his name in the block. You should know how that works Freddie….lol!!!!! Duh!
“YOU were posting as RL WOOTEN and addressing RL WOOTEN”
Yes, I know. Duh! Lol!!!!!!
Pssst! That because I used his name. ssshhhhh….
Talk about the ultimate in ignorance!!!! Lol!!!!! How much more obvious could I make it without writing in the sky for you Freddie mouse?
Hey, if I am to be accused why not play along. Lol!!!!!!So gullible Freddie mouse.
Now if RL Wooten DOES come back, I will not used his handle out of courtesy.
But hey, I don’t care if you believe I am everyone on the blog. When I post under another name…..I make it VERY obvious for the one with average
ROTFL!!!!!!!! Its like a bunch of Jr High lids…..lol!!!!!!!
|2014 March 28 09:03:00 PM (9148)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 975. ||ROTFL!!!!!! |
Oh, Freddie Mouse you are so cute. Who is Horatio? Is that suppose to be me too? Like Horatio Hornblower? lol!!!!!!!
Oh this is so classic. Freedie mouse is busted posting under his to handles and he lashes out at others. But is as well known, weak minds that cannot discuss ideas prefer to discuss people.
Freddie Mouse! Did you hear alex like likes Dippity dew?
Oh, I must come clean. I have never seen a Bill and Ted movie but it seems Freddie mouse has….:)
|2014 March 28 08:03:00 PM (9145)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 972. ||ROTFL!!!!!!! Anonymous, aka Freddie accusing others of multiple handles. |
That is classic!!!!
Yes, I have been all RL posts other than the original post. I make it obvious unlike Mousey who lies about it. :). Luv ya Freddie mouse…
And yes my college and military days saw too much alcohol but virtually no drugs. But unlike Freddie mouse I have been clean for multiple decades.
Since they cannot defend their claims the atheists are more interested in soap operas. Lol!!!!!
|2014 March 28 06:03:00 PM (9140)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 967. ||“Well, we await your point by point rebuttal. Go for it” |
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!, silly Dippity Dew. Rebuttals are only needed when evidence that supports conclusions are presented. You don’t even understand the arguments.
“Don?t forget to include your alternate explanation of the observable evidence,”
ROTfL!!!!!!!!!!Sure, I will present a serious of books you will need to read and provide chapter by chapter rebuttals. Just following your lead :)
“While you?re at it, are you going to attempt any other explanation for your god?s omniscience/omnipotence paradox”
Been done by me and RL. (I know I know you insist he is me, whatever!). Lol!!!!!
To summarize Dippity Dew: He doesn’t understand what he believes so he needs the smarter people to make his arguments.
|2014 March 28 12:03:00 AM (9133)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 964. ||“why do so many atheist and pagan leaders kill millions of people?? |
Mess, from their view why not? Its just survival of the fittest and everyone does what is right in their own eyes. That’s the world of the atheist.
|2014 March 28 12:03:00 AM (9134)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 963. ||“You haven?t got the stones to even try. You haven?t read the paper, you don?t understand it. You refuse to accept it because you think it threatens your delusion.” |
I read the proofs in the past..Its not new Dippity. I took multiple biology classes in college. Facts are not the problem. The interpretations are not supportable.
ROTFL!!; You don’t even understand what you believe silly. When you do feel free to come and sell it.
YOU are the one afraid to read anything that criticizes macro. You never have and you never will. As a drone, you must believe what you are told. Critical thinking not allowed.
|2014 March 27 11:03:00 PM (9126)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 954. ||“Tell you what, the paper I referenced stands on it?s own snd in its entirety.” |
LoL!!!!! Yes, its so good you don’t even have the stones to post one fact that proves you correct.
I have nothing to refute. The oneous is on you who claims macro is true. But alas, these facts you claim prove macro always fall away like Ada and the Freddie mouse fish. I’m giving you a shot….can you make it to the field? No appealing to authority Dippity….you should understand in what you put your faith.
|2014 March 27 09:03:00 PM (9122)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 950. ||“You have been directed several times here to go over to talkorigins(dot)org and check out the paper, complete with credits and references” |
Dippity Dew, pick one out you believe to be particularly strong and share with the group. Maybe, as you claim, this will be the ultimate proof we need to determine macro is true!
OK lets get started….provided you can even get on the field! Lol!!!!
|2014 March 27 02:03:00 AM (9102)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 932. ||“STTTTRIIIIKKKKE THREE. You?re outta there big fella. Stood” |
ROTFL!!!!!!!! Coming from a spectator outside the stadium who can’t even get a ticket!
Its OK Freddie & Mouse. I know why you will never answer :)
|2014 March 27 01:03:00 AM (9100)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 930. ||“will it be a home run? I?ve made my bet.” |
Oh Freddie & Mouse you are so cute when you try to be authoritative. Glad to get to your questions but you will have to earn the right by answering mine.
Here goes again for the 1267 time.
As a man of science, I recognize the importance of the SM. Using this, show us that macro evolution is indeed fact. Use whatever time framed which best strengthens your case.
Audience will he? Can he? I say no! But lightning does strike on occasion! Lol!!!!!
|2014 March 26 04:03:00 PM (9089)||[RL The Science Guy] wwgha link 921. ||“we need you to state a time frame when talking evolution.” |
Bahhhhhhh!!!!!, you have not earned the privilege of asking a question. As a man of science, I recognize the importance of the SM. Using this, show us that macro evolution is indeed fact. Use whatever time framed which best strengthens your case
Such a simple question, straight forward and asked many times.
Whadda ya got Freddie? mouse?
Will you continue is dishonesty? Or will you let slip a few more confessions that macro is not fact?
Audience……lets watch the events unfold……
|2014 March 26 11:03:00 AM (9084)||[RL Wooten] wwgha link 916. ||“Are you talking about Ken Ham and his questioning of the theory? Is that the controversy?” |
I don’t know. Does he call macroevolution “fact”?
“Horatio, what is the age of the planet Earth?”
Who is Horatio? Never even seen anyone by that handle.
Freddie mouse, don’t change the subject. Just show us how the REAL facts (not speculation and art work) lead to macroecolution. Remember, must use SM.
|2014 March 25 08:03:00 PM (9071)||[RL Wooten] wwgha link 906. ||“A the lying prick’ |
Oh silly Freddie mouse, starting with personal attacks. Off to a terrible start. lol!!!
“At some point they will become so different from the original genetic pool that the current population is a distinct and separate species.”
Great! But why is there still controversy? Will freddie mouse (Or his double Anonymous) bring us proof using the SM? Lets see!!
“you now want scientists to be as deceitful and dishonest as theists and couch everything in the language of absolutes, despite knowing they don?t have every single piece of evidence”
Ah Hah! Admission there is really no proof to verify macroevolution but a great deal of assumptions!! Are scientist being dishonest? Dawkins and others claim it is fact! lol!! Others have put forth false data to support this “fact” of macroevolution. lol!!!
“As was presented on the thread in question, scientists observed a gap in the fossil record. They predicted where they would find a fossil that would fill the gap”
So, the to fill the gap they needed a fish with a bump? Hmmmm, but how does this prove macroevolution.? Why couldn’t the fossil just be a fish with a bump and nothing more? Other scientist claim it is NOT a transitional.
“What is your claim A?”
Too complicated? My claim is the fossil found is just a fish, no more. The bump is not becoming a leg. lol!!!!!
|2014 March 24 06:03:00 PM (9064)||[RL Wooten] wwgha link 894. ||“It?s the same process that generates the speciation events.” |
Actually its not Freddie mouse. Micro is observed, macro is assumed. Not to mention breeders can never make a dog anything but a dog. PROOF Freddie, we must have proof! Lol!!!
“You were provided with the evidence”
Mo I was presented with links containing “might” “could” “maybe”. Your problem, not mine. Bring some proof verified by the SM.
“You asked for evidence of evolution found using the scientific method”
Yes, and a fossil is not proof macro took place. Prove it is just mo more than a fish! Got something to prove your claim and disprove mine?
“scientists observed a gap in the fossil record”
Gaps? They have caverns. The fossil record shows species remaining as their species. The rest is artist renderings and imagination.
“It devastated your objections to evolution”
ROTFL!!!! Really? Your fish fossil? You proved a fish died and fossilized! Whew! How to overcome that! We have more marine fossils than anything and even some eating their lunch. Is that mote proof? Lol!!!!!!
|2014 March 24 10:03:00 AM (9052)||[RL Wooten] wwgha link 887. ||“I did define x and y.|
X and Y are any two events that I can choose between that are mutually exclusive.”
Great! Define the events. Don’t be scared. Lets test this theory.
“Sweetie once AGAIN forgets to change his moniker back and gets busted sock posting!!!”
ROTFL!!!!, yeah …….forgot……Um, if you check above sweetness became RL, then became sweetness again then back to RL…….according the the atheist theory of moniker states. So how could I FORGET to change the moniker? ROTFL!!!!!!!
Keep it simple, I am everybody.
I’ll be the King of Prussia if you guys would just answer a question! lol!!!!
RL, If you do return, my apologies. Just attempting to calm the atheists. Crickies! They are easily ruffled little boogers they are…..:)
|2014 March 24 01:03:00 AM (9046)||[RL Wooten] wwgha link 881. ||“That god knows that tomorrow X will happen and Y will not happen = True” |
Dippity Dew! You finally agree God exists?
But how do you know God knows X will not happen and not Y? Why do you assume God thinks as a man? Is God limited by time? Is God limited to only two possibilities?
But lets see your X and Y so we can test it :) Don’t be scared Dippity.
|2014 March 24 12:03:00 AM (9044)||[RL Wooten] wwgha link 880. ||Dippity, stop stalling so we can test your Theological Fatalism you still insist is invalid although it has been debunked. Don’t be scared, lets test it. |
Lets get started.
Define action X
Should have warned you. You will be me. The atheist insist I am every theist on the blog. I accept the mantle but they continue to whine as a diversion :).
|2014 March 23 06:03:00 PM (9038)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 873. ||“Remember WM Craig said:|
?From the fact that God foreknows X will happen, you can be sure that X will happen.?
ROTFL!!!!!!!! The ignorance of Dippity never ceases to exist. If RL quoted Craig as saying this then he would agree with you………right? So what’s wrong with your claim?………hint: go back and read in content.
So why don’t you claim victory?
OK, lets go to the SM and have some fun. Lets test this Fatalism deal. Lets get started.
Define action X
|2014 March 23 05:03:00 PM (9036)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 871. ||“That is an illustration that I hope will convey to you this idea that we have the power to do X or not-X” |
RL, when you start breaking down terms like “Theological Fatalism” you will completely lose this crowd. Lol!!!
I broke it down for them in very elementary terms and they could not follow. Really one needs to have a very basic understanding about the attributes of God in order to follow the argument.
|2014 March 22 04:03:00 AM (9014)||[RL Wooten] wwgha link 863. ||I saw this article. Debunks fatalism well. |
We have been talking about divine omniscience and theological fatalism ? whether or not everything happens necessarily because God foreknows everything that will happen. If God foreknows everything that is going to happen, then how can there be free will? How can you refrain from doing anything, if God already knows you are going to do it?
Fatalism is the view that everything that happens happens necessarily. Theological fatalism is the view that because God foreknows everything, everything happens necessarily. The argument for theological fatalism goes like this:
Let X be any event that you choose arbitrarily.
1. Necessarily, if God foreknows that X will happen, then X will happen. (That is in virtue of what knowledge is. Knowledge is justified true belief ? it is what is true. So if God knows that X will happen, then X will happen.)
2. God foreknows that X will happen.
3. Therefore, necessarily, X will happen. (So X cannot be free ? everything that happens happens necessarily.)
That is the argument for theological fatalism. What I pointed out last time is that this argument is logically invalid. That is to say, it breaks the rules of logic. All that follows from the two premises is:
3.* Therefore, X will happen (not ?Necessarily, X will happen.?)
From the fact that God foreknows X will happen, you can be sure that X will happen. But it doesn?t follow that i
|2014 March 21 05:03:00 PM (9011)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 860. ||“Evolution is a fact. ” |
Absolutely, micro is fact!
Oh and macro is possible……….but macro evolution is not fact unless you provide the evidence. Lets see it. Lol!!!!
“a fish bearing some of the characteristics of later tetrapods ”
lol!!!!! Not proof. Man and dogs have heads but that is not proof of macro evolution. Lol!!!!!!
“It was also found using the scientific method ? observation, prediction, testing/experimentation”
Bahhhhbbb! Wrong again. You observe a fossil. A fish that died many years ago. That is the only fact. You did not observe macro evolution. That is called imagination. Lol!!!!!!
Exactly where dows the experiment and testing take place? Lol!!!!!!!
Got anything else that is actually verifiable or falsifiable withe SM? Nice initial effort.
|2014 March 21 01:03:00 AM (9005)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 855. ||“Not like yours, thankfully. Mine works” |
Well, so does a hamsters so……. ROTFL!!!!!! Sorry Dippity, love ya but I had to….lol!!!!
I got off another good one. But like the hamster, you are sadly lacking.
You don’t understand logic, the nature of evidence, the SM, the Bible or even evolution. You really understand very little Dippity Dew. Get an education and come back. :)
|2014 March 20 09:03:00 PM (8998)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 848. ||“. A refusal to answer will simply acknowledge that you are fully aware your belief is irrational and deluded.” |
lol!!!!! That’s so cute. Actually my refusal to answer…..again…..means I already answered.
So funny coming from atheist who refuse to defend lies.
|2014 March 20 09:03:00 PM (8997)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 847. ||“should I include astrology, alchemy, and witchcraft too!” |
If you like….sure. Lol!!!
“this advice from a science who denies the fact of evolution.”
lol!!!!!, I have always accepted the facts of evolution. Facts are not biases. Some of the conclusions I absolutely dispute. Prove me wrong. Ready to believe!!
“A truthful answer will cause your god delusion to shatter like glass around you”
Nope, it didn’t then or now.
|2014 March 20 03:03:00 PM (8993)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 844. ||“So you?re claiming that God told them all about the golden rule but no-one bothered to write it down” |
Yep, quite possible.
“A question you continually avoid. How do you know your God exists, A??”
Proven many times over.
“And really, you believe a fish fossil is proof of evolution!”
Lol!!! That stings huh? Documented rich here on WWGHA.
“I?ll save my ire for those that actually deserve it.”
Thanks Freddie mouse. Luv you buddy!
“you never explained how you god can be both omniscient, omnipotent, and benevolent.”
Been done go look it up. And frankly your obsession with foreskins and circumcision is just weird. Go get some help my man. Maybe you and My Little Pony guy can hook up.
LOL!!! and reading your post on foreskins is like the ramblings of a madman. You admit you don’t understand the Bible. That’s very obvious. So, go take some classes covering theology, hermeneutics, doctrine and Covenants.
|2014 March 20 12:03:00 PM (8988)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 840. ||“why your author penned this in is astonishingly ridiculous.” |
The author David, penned it because King Saul did not want David to marry his daughter Michal. Saul did not believe David could do it
LOL!!!! Is this your argument for a fetish?
Oh Alexis I love you buddy! Have a great day doing whatever you do.
|2014 March 20 03:03:00 AM (8987)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 838. ||“Did that already?. yeah, sorry” |
Lol!!!! Sure you have. If you did, you would know circumcision is a Jewish custom, not a Christian. You might actually get a clue…..lol!!!
Yes, you are pretty sorry Ok. Lol!!!
Did you have a circumcision go wrong? Is that why you have this fetish? Lol!!!!
|2014 March 20 01:03:00 AM (8984)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 835. ||“I just find it amusing that any intelligent person in this day and age would believe in a god obsessed with foreskins!” |
ROTF what is really freaky is the obsession Dippity Dew has with circumcision. Lol!!!!! That is all he can talk about. Dude, stay away from the knife, don’t cut your penis. Its OK, read the NT a little.
Is this your fetish ? Lol!!!!!!!
“Still waiting for your logical explanation of how your god can possibly be omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent all at the same time”
been done but talk about circumcision some more. Lol!!!!
|2014 March 19 08:03:00 PM (8977)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 828. ||“So your god only wants jewish people to cut off the ends of their penises?” |
It would seem to be the Jewish custom, ah yeah. I understand it is a sanitary issue and those who were not Jews did not practice the custom.
Not an expert on the subject but your obsession with it is funny….lol!!!!!! I am not a Jew so maybe purchase some Jewish literature to fulfill your fetish.
“I don?t know what is funnier, your obsessive and compulsive lying”
Lets see one of my lies. We can laugh together! :)
|2014 March 19 04:03:00 PM (8974)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 826. ||“Well then, I wonder why Confucius didn?t then also tell us about the penis snipping” |
Don’t think he was Jewish…..lol!!!!!
“You?d think someone might have mentioned God telling Adam and Eve about the cornerstone of western morality, no?”
Um, no…..the ancients relied on oral tradition. No problem there. Glad to straighten you out. Lol!!!
“A question you continually avoid. How do you know your God exists, A?”
Avoid?? Lol!!!! No my friend, answered many times by me and others……um I mean all my other mes….lol!
And really, you believe a fish fossil is proof of evolution! Lol!!!! You wouldn’t know evidence if it bit you on your sea turtle….lol!!!!!
And mousey, prick is such a naughty word. You really should control you anger Alex Jr….lol!!!!
|2014 March 19 11:03:00 AM (8969)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 822. ||“God never did teach the golden rule to Adam or Eve or anyone” |
lol!!!!!, another day another Freddie mouse error. So mousey, so absence of writings is evidence God never taught them this laws? How do you know?
What is the “Big Sin” commandments? Haven’t run across those :)
|2014 March 18 03:03:00 PM (8962)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 815. ||WELL, another day and another freddie-mouse error. |
The so called “Golden Rule” can be found in the OT in Leviticus 19:18. Lol!!!!!!
Jesus summarizes the entire law with it in the NT.
Of course we find this truth in other people groups. All people originate from one Creator. Same reason we find flood stories in various people groups. The date something was written down does not indicate the source of the truth
|2014 March 18 11:03:00 AM (8959)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 812. ||“The government of the United States is not, IN ANY SENSE, founded on the Christian religion” |
True, it was founded on Biblical principles.
Church held in the congress on Sundays
Atheist had to be miserable…lol!!!!!!
The list goes on…….
“They opposed women voting because they believed that it was the job of the male”
And you had to be a land owner. So it was not just all males.
|2014 March 17 07:03:00 PM (8939)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 793. ||“Why should I care where the American founding fathers claimed rights came from?” |
That true Messenger. Our founders were traitors to the Brits……..and Americans kicked the crap out of the Brits….twice Lol!!!!!
Our founders recognized the divine nature of human rights. Men have a tendency to take those rights from others. Like the Brits attempted to do. Not to mention using a state controlled church to control the people
|2014 March 17 01:03:00 AM (8925)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 781. ||“John Adams was a famous abolitionist. He has the title of being the ?archest enemy of southern slavery that every existed?. |
Absolutely right Messenger. All the founders were not pro-slavery. Washington was always torn on the subject. But they were not for gay marriage or pro-abortion either so atheists would consider them immoral monsters based on there relative moral code of whatever feels right to them. :)
Our founders supported:
Preaching on Sundays in the Congress (sused as a church)
So much for the separation of church and state huh? LOL!!!!! The establishment clause was to prevent a state church as the the Anglican church was/is in England. Not to eliminate God from government activities.
|2014 March 16 05:03:00 PM (768)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 768. ||“where did i say he was in the u.s.?” |
Oh you NOMALLY bounce from the Constitution to a letter written to the Dansbury Baptist? lol!!!!!
“did your google result show the jefferson did say this”
No I read……multiple biographies on most of the POTUS……
“let?s say i?m wrong about jefferson”
You are….don’t need to say it :). As a reminder, YOU brought up the Constitution and Jefferson. Don’t bring up subjects above your pay grade…lol!!!!!
You got taken….go get your GED.
Cue: Profanity, subject change and rants of anger.
|2014 March 16 03:03:00 AM (764)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 764. ||“Separation of church and state?. used by jefferson and others” |
ROTFL!!!!!! Jefferson was not even in the US when the constitution was written. Remember? If it is not in the constitution it doesn’t matter! Lol!!!!!!
He did as a younger man write the DI. After some moderation from the Congress, they agreed our rights come……from…….our…….Creator!
Alex the silver tongue is busted!!!!!
I’m standing by google because your tripe is not going unchallenged!!
Still luv ya Alex. You are a wonderful example for all the kids!
|2014 March 15 08:03:00 PM (756)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 756. ||“Again, we were talking about the biblical god, now you are changing the subject to ?a deity?.” |
OK, um,……..YHWH……in the Bible……IS a deity. LOL!!!!
Dippity Dew, think about going into a good GED program.
|2014 March 15 08:03:00 PM (755)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 755. ||“Well, it claims to be the word of god. If it is not what it claims to be then it is Not the word of the god described in it! Your condition” |
ROTFL! So how has this prove the God of the Bible not true? All we did is, for the moment, assume the Bible is not what it claims. The statement being erroneous does not disprove God! WOW!!!!! Lol!!!!! You are a hoot! That’s like saying a faulty biography of Washington proves Washington did not exist!!! Hahahahahahaha
“why do I need to present an alternative”
Because you have whined the same thing. No creator? Give use a possible scenario for creation. Scared? Offer something of value so you can shut up Messenger. Imagine how sweet that would be for you!
|2014 March 15 02:03:00 AM (750)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 750. ||“So, it will have disproven the biblical god as described in the bible. Duh.” |
ROTFL;!!!! It proves nothing of the kind! It only proves you don’t like the God of the Bible. Or that you just don’t understand a deity with your finite pea brain. Lol!!!!
But again, so what? How have you disproven a Creator created and sustains the universe? Hmmmm? I mean you can’t even offer a viable alternative! :)
|2014 March 14 05:03:00 PM (743)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 743. ||Suppose the Bible is not what it claims to be. |
Bow have you disproven God?
Atheist like to go to the Bible since they cannot logically defend the notion of God.
Same old cowardly tactics…..lol!!!!!
|2014 March 14 05:03:00 PM (742)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 742. ||“Why did Jesus then ignore the Law He (as God) supposedly handed down to Moses and change things when He had stated that He hadn?t come to change the Law” |
Freddie mouse is getting closer to seeing the significance of the NT………..if only he was willing to learn rather than just looking to be smugly combative……sigh….
|2014 March 13 11:03:00 PM (728)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 728. ||“nonsense NOT tolerated.” |
Oh please don’t leave. You are great for the theist cause. Besides you need to stay busy so as not to do something foolish. :)
|2014 March 13 08:03:00 PM (721)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 721. ||“and would recognize that the story is nothing but a fable, a fairy tale?” |
sometimes fairy tales are true…..right Dippity Dew? An ark in a flood……..is it less likely than claiming mankind’s ancestors crawled out of the ocean? And to make it more realistic that the those ancestors were born from lifeless matter? and….. It was all just by chance? Lol!!!!!!
You who do not believe in fairy tales cast the first stone!!! lol!!!!!!!
|2014 March 13 01:03:00 AM (705)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 705. ||“alex, I see that you are acting mature now. I will resume our debate.” |
lol!!!!! Good behavior should be rewarded. But can it last? Nah, not likely.
|2014 March 12 07:03:00 PM (683)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 683. ||Which is funnier? Atheist interpreting Scripture or alex’s inability to communicate without profanity? |
lol! Its a toss up!
Do Atheists use Every Atheists guide to the Bible blog for interpretation?
|2014 March 10 04:03:00 PM (651)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 651. ||“We were actually talking about how they came to be AFTER the flood that killed everything on the earth” |
How did they come to be from the start? That might be you answer for both. I think Dippity Dew still believes the Campbell’s soup theory for how fish cane to be. soup, lightning, chemicals bonding, growing gills, growing funs, wallah!
And you think building an Ark is absurd!
Its funny how everyone claims to know the SM but no one can seem to provide it! Lol!!!!!
|2014 March 10 12:03:00 PM (646)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 646. ||“Ok, then we?re did all the current fish and marine animals come from?” |
Yes Dippity Dew, where did they come from? Did Campbell’s oyster noodle mix just the right way? Lol!!!
“That?s because YOU don?t understand the SM.”
Always willing go learn. Give me you definition”
“Theory of Evolution is accepted everywhere”
In the US TOE without Gods guidance is the least popular theory. GOD is accepted by a much larger than TOE”. Check out the Gallup poll.
“Home to the IDiot”
That would be Seattle, California. The rest is ad homenim. Sigh! The last gasp of a dying man, the hillbilly attack.
“in your opinion, of course) what MICRO-EVOLUTION”
I don’t have an opinion. It is the obvious definition. Dippity Dew found it but you cannot? Lol!!!!
|2014 March 10 12:03:00 AM (641)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 641. ||“It sounds like the beginning of your defeat” |
I sure hope so! All I need is evidence/proof that macroecolution has and does take place using the SM.
Maybe evidence of a fish evolving into a bird? Something really cool we can all see.
I have never claimed macroevolution cannot happen (one of Dippity Dews childish lies). A Creator would have no problem with such a process. I contend zero proof exists which can withstand the SM. I am ready to believe. Bring it on!
|2014 March 07 09:03:00 PM (616)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 616. ||“Microevolution over time may lead to speciation…” |
lol!!!!!!! Come to rescue Freddie mouse? OK
See the word “may” in the definition above? That is because it has never been proven using the SM. Guys like you and Frederick the mouse need to read comprehensively and think critically.
You are welcome to prove it. I’m ready to believe but I require evidence, proof and verification.
Thanks Dippity Dew!
Prediction: He runs…
Monday I sincerely hope you guys have something of substance…….lol!!!
|2014 March 07 09:03:00 PM (614)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 614. ||LOL!!!!! |
This is the proof that using the molecular clock, we can discover when unique groups of people (races/cultures/etc) emerged.” lol!!! Do you know what the Molecular clock is my little freddie-mouse?
Then you admit we are all just the human race so evidently no speciation is taking place! So what is the point?
freddie-mouse…….. Try again
My definition of microevolution is the same as all men who know science. While you google molecular clock (define it) (adding do proteins and nucleic acids evolve at a fixed rate) feel free to look up micro and macro evolution. Its is a good exercise for a working mouse.
But please, add something of value this time. I mean really, gene markers? hereditary ____? Yes, we know how these work through genetics, thanks!
I am a very busy man. Move this on quickly. I don’t have time for your silly mousey games……lol!!!!!!!!!!lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|2014 March 07 06:03:00 PM (611)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 611. ||HAHAHAHA, oh freddie the mouse I see cracks forming. Losing it smart feller? Even using my LOLs :) |
“We were going to discuss but now you want a debate. Either way!”
Let me remind you of your words Frederick the mouse:
“YOU will continue to avoid debate on the topic”
Then you turn around and say:
“You were helping me set up a working and plausible model to explain the origins of humans?
I don’t think you can find your butt with two hands! lol!!!!!!! I must ask, are you high?
Anyhow there Frederick the mouse you still have not provided proof for your first…….lol!!!!….fact!
Let me post it.
?As a matter of FACT, using the molecular clock, we can discover when unique groups of people (races/cultures/etc) emerged. Please add some of your own information here.?
I did with My response, prove it! Still waiting.
|2014 March 07 05:03:00 PM (607)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 607. ||“As a matter of FACT, using the molecular clock, we can discover when unique groups of people (races/cultures/etc) emerged. Please add some of your own information here.” |
OK, Prove it.
“You haven?t challenged any the information I?ve provided.”
A challenge is only needed when facts are presented. You have proven nada.
So are we debating or are we working together here on a model? You never cleared up this point.
|2014 March 07 12:03:00 PM (603)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 603. ||“I said I will need your help” |
You need my help? I’m drunk, remember? And if it is a DEBATE then we don’t work together. ROTFL!!!. So which is it Frederick the Mouse? Think much? Its your story, so lay it out there. Besides you only regurgitate what others tell you. Don’t be scared…
Lol!!!!, you don’t even know the definition of a fact or the SM
|2014 March 07 04:03:00 AM (597)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 597. ||“You were helping me set up a working and plausible model to explain the origins of humans” |
Great! I will defer to your expertise. Remember, I am a man of science so it will need yo meet the criteria of the SM. Thanks Freddie mouse.
I look forward to learning from the mousekeeteer! Lol!!! Share how you know no Creator exists. This is wonderful!
This will be so good….
|2014 March 07 02:03:00 AM (595)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 595. ||“YOU will continue to avoid debate on the topic YOU agreed to in post #520″ |
Debate what? Lol!!!!!!!!
What is the topic Homer? Lol!!!!!
You had another brain fart. You complain when I ask how DNA evolved but suddenly you are asking for proof of a Creator! Lol!!!!!!!! Topic scares you to death!!! Lol!!!!!!
Do you realize Francis Collins believes in a Designer and he is an evolutionist?
Does your job require you to work a window? You are a serious mess.
OK, I am going to help you out. Read through this post 3 times. Take a deep breath, don’t get emotional. Then write out clearly your question. Have a banana and keep calm.
You did want me to state a fact. Yes, you do need help with what facts are. Similarities among species does not prove one evolved from the other. There is no evidence for macroevolution verifiable with the SM.
Bam! Lol!!!!!!! Luv you Freddie mouse. You make me laugh so…..
|2014 March 07 12:03:00 AM (592)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 592. ||“Where did that come from?” |
oh sorry I confused you with stinging logic
Um um, well, see you are an atheist. You believe no Designer is involved in Creation. Then there is the consideration we ate on an atheist blog….
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!! Wow!!! What…..a…….mess.
Tell you what little guy…..you tell me what you want to prove. Ok? Then we will go from there.
“Francis Collins is a Baptist who is ALSO an EVOLUTIONIST.”
ROTFL!!!!!!! Yes, I know. And he is not the only one!!
He also has no problem with God!!! Lol!!!!! Did you catch that one? Lol!!!!!!!!!!
See that is what separates your from me, I think and make conclusions for myself. Well you, you quote others and let them think for you.
IF and its a big IF macro is true, no biggie. My worldview doesn’t change a bit. JUST MORE PROOF A CREATOR EXISTS…….lol!!!!!
Ok go bring your best for whatever….lol!!!!….you plan to “prove”.
|2014 March 06 11:03:00 PM (587)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 587. ||“Your position always distill down to 3,500 million years ago, when simple single celled organisms appeared. ” |
Lol!!!!!!! It is not a position but it is a question. You obviously have no clue and your theories are laughable so lets move on. Round one to me.
Let me make this simple. Bring anything you have that would eliminate a designer and prove to all that nature created all we enjoy ex nihlio, no creator, nada. Once you give us this SM proven evidence we can wrap it up.
How”s that? No more excuse Freddie mouse! Lol!!!!
Cue: more complaining and whining and similarities fallacies and couldovs and mightovs.
|2014 March 06 09:03:00 PM (585)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 585. ||“Having your position constrained by simple timelines takes away your wiggle room” |
um, no not at all. Start from the beginning….. Any date you like. Why are you so afraid of the beginning silly?
So what possible mechanism can create DNA? Primordial soup programmer? Lol!!!!!!
“It could mean that we SHARE a COMMON ancestor”
ROTFL, it could mean? Hahahahahahah, I am a man of science not fairy tales. Your grandpa was a tree swinger……lol!!!!!…..call him whatever you like Tarzan…..lol!!!!
Back to facts…you cannot even tell me how a strand of DNA evolves from your soup. Lol!!!!!!…..and you want to tell me we have a common ancestor with and because we are similar….lol!!!!!!
Prove it using the SM.
Those are your two assignments. Begin!
|2014 March 06 12:03:00 PM (579)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 579. ||“Where?s the timeline, sweetie?” |
The beginning….lol!! You can use whatever date you like :)
“Always reverting back to abiogenesis.”
Well…..yeah…..you run from it. How is it possible for DNA to form without a designer? You have no possibilities? But you know your ancestor is a Chimp ( well that might be true for freddie mouse)? lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Simple question. As Pink Floyd would say……run, run ,run, run, run
“My math is usually really poor”
LOL!!!! Yes, yes it is. but the first step is admitting the problem :)
“Just haven?t found any evidence supporting that hypothesis yet.”
Please….share….what would evidence for God look like?
“Of what value is comparative genomic analysis”
Pathogenesis for one. Is this what you would like to defend?
|2014 March 06 02:03:00 AM (572)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 572. ||“Full-genome sequence comparisons between living great apes also fit the expected pattern: orangutans and humans have sequences 97.4% identical; humans and gorillas, 98.4% identical; and humans and chimpanzees, 99.0% identical.” |
ROTFL!!!!! OK, so prove that we evolved from the chimp. Do you realize how large a number the 1% really is? Look it up. Hey, I’m ready to believe!
“why not let these brothers in god at biologos know how your internal combustion engine and car idea completely destroys these whacky scientific findings.”
Um, what finding? We have similar characteristics? Duh! lol!!! Already knew that for years!!!!. I though you had something new! lol!!!!!!!!
Freddie mouse you make me laugh so. You actually think you found something new!!!! Wow!!!!
Here is your timeline. Show me how the first DNA can be written without intelligence? What are your theories? This would be a decisive victory for you completely eliminating God. That is what the blog is about, right?
|2014 March 05 05:03:00 PM (558)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 558. ||“The increased complexity shoots down your naturalistic worldview down even further!” |
Exactly. Prove it wrong…..maybe u can show us your primordial soup programming monkey! Lol!!!!!
‘WHOA THERE, sweetness. That?s another topic”
Ah, no, that is the topic…..DNA. But you don’t like tough questions. So…….how could something with high information content originate without intelligence? Lol!!!! Feel free to throw in some markers……lol!!!!
“This new discovery throws new light on evolutionary genetics as each mutation in an organism can have dual implications.”
Hey we took a step…….now prove mutations gave DNA multiple complex programmed information!…..lol!!!!
Don’t dodge, keep googling until you come up with something better than vague references…
|2014 March 05 12:03:00 PM (555)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 555. ||“Was that ?an appeal to authority? or just a gauwd guiding you? |
Yes, your expanded claim of “Nature” is appeal to authority. You have yet to prove how DNA originated. Nature? Aliens? My acknowledgment of the authors work was a factual truth about DNA.
we know nature utilizes DNA but you seem to think this a victory for you….lol!!!!!….care to elaborate?
“It just adds to what we already know and understand about genetics and evolution?
What did we learn about evolution from this discovery?
Yes, the dance has begun. A Freddie mouse claim he will again refuse to support.
|2014 March 05 04:03:00 AM (551)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 551. ||“I was going by the comments of the researcher who said it was NATURE” |
Now it is an appeal to authority and more ad homenim attacks. Lol!!!!!! Expected, you dont seem much on reasoning out things yourself. More of the follower who is told what to believe. Freddie mouse you are so silly! Wow!!!! Lets see….two questions ignored and Fred mouse claim of “Nature”. Nature what?
lol!!!!!! Yes, I see why you are attempting to change the subject……again! Lol!!!
Nope, we gonna camp right here until you can explain yourself Lucy.. lol!!!!
|2014 March 05 02:03:00 AM (549)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 549. ||“The ?hot scoop? which YOU provided worked more in my favour than yours” |
Well readers, here we go another claim by Freddie mouse he will not prove……..sigh……..lol!!!!!!
Here is another claim he refuses to defend.
“It just adds to what we already know and understand about genetics and evolution.?
Things never change. Lots of claims zero evidence. Oh well, popcorn getting cold again………sigh!..
What did we learn new about evolution? Freddie mouse learned that primordial soup monkey is heck of a programmer! Lol!!!!!!!!
|2014 March 05 12:03:00 AM (547)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 547. ||?It just adds to what we already know and understand about genetics and evolution.? |
Indeed? OK, how does it prove evolution over what we already know?
I wanted this post separate. Didn’t want freddie mouse to miss it. This is going to be good! Popcorn heating……
|2014 March 05 12:03:00 AM (546)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 546. ||“don?t remember Shubin spelling out how the internal combustion engine proves common descent of anything” |
Of course not. It would prove just the opposite. lol!!!! (ridicule intended)
“It just adds to what we already know and understand about genetics and evolution.”
|2014 March 05 12:03:00 AM (545)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 545. ||“You?re a ?science guy?, the information should interest you.” |
Very much so. Let me sum it up for you. Similarities among creatures suggest just as powerfully to a common designer as opposed to many designers. Next! lol!!! Your book and argument are not new. I have no fish within me. lol!!
|2014 March 04 05:03:00 PM (538)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 538. ||“He even mentions Tiktaalik” |
There it is!! OK, now using the SM prove to us that this fish is proof macroevolution takes place.
“whose intelligence would very nearly match that of my nearly 5 year old child?s.”
Yuck! Now Freddie mouse if off on personal attacks. Sigh! I think he is getting frustrated with his position.
“DNA is an incredibly powerful information storage device, which nature has fully exploited in unexpected ways.?
I agree, its powerful, its an incredible information device and we didn”t expect it to have a second program! ROTFL!!………The increased complexity shoots down your naturalistic worldview down even further!
Not off to a good start Freddie mouse. But I see your problem SO often. You will never read anything which contradicts what you want to believe. You react in anger because it is your religion. WE, the men of science look at evidence objectively and make conclusions. We don’t let others think for us.
Now run and hide
|2014 March 04 01:03:00 PM (533)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 533. ||“you realize that the search for answers will never end. This wonderful discovery shows how science continues to understand?.objectively, rationally, logically.” |
Yes, thank you.
“Well, for starters we can assume that IF evolution were true, then we would have genetic markers across all lifeforms.”
Actually if we assume God is true, we would have genetic markers. Just as we follow the ascent of the modern automobile from the model T to the Mosler 900S. Looking through the history we see major upgrades yet they share pistons, cam shafts, tires etc. Some adapted to their environments such as police cars, NASCAR, tractors etc. Some models even died off such as the Dusenberg. These similarities are a results of refinements by engineers with an desired design.
“unless it was a god that wanted to make it appear that evolution was true.”
ROTFL!!!!!, there is zero evidence to support macroevolution. You think that would be enough. Remember, it was the God haters who believed in a static universe. The reason you can’t see truth is because every hypothesis is acceptable with the exception one. One hypothesis is that life began on Mars. Yes, Mars! lol!! The flexibility of evolutionary thought is to be admired.
|2014 March 04 02:03:00 AM (525)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 525. ||Freddie Mouse speaking of DNA, your task just got more difficult. Check out the discovery made by John Stamatoyannopoulos at UW. As a man of science, I greatly enjoyed how much more fascinating DNA just became. |
That was some soup, huh? lol!!!!!
|2014 March 04 02:03:00 AM (524)||[Sweetness] wwgha link 524. ||“My position is there are numerous genetic markers that span all life -thanks to evolution” |
Great Start! Now prove it is evolution. I am a man of science. Remember to use the scientific method, not the one you used for your fish bump. Lol!!!
“Please don?t. I need to be accountable for my statements and questions”
True but your only defense is ” We dunno”. “With time everything is possible”. You have little to offer. That is true of most cults
|2014 March 04 01:03:00 AM (522)||[A] wwgha link 522. ||You know, I like sweetness. Had a friend who played football with the same nick. I might go with that. Thx freddie mouse!|
|2014 March 04 01:03:00 AM (521)||[A] wwgha link 521. ||freedie mouse since you failed so badly in God discussions I will let you off. Can we start with the fish bump? That is priceless? Bring in freddie so we can have more fun!|
|2014 March 04 01:03:00 AM (520)||[A] wwgha link 520. ||?Lets talk common descent and comparative sequence analysis.? |
|2014 March 04 01:03:00 AM (519)||[A] wwgha link 519. ||?LOL has been re-established, BTW!! Keep up the good work with that.? |
You got it cowboy! But only when you are funny or you get you sea turtle caught! Lol!!!!!!
|2014 March 03 09:03:00 PM (517)||[A] wwgha link 517. ||“mw DNA” |
lol!!!!!! Yeah I am a science guy with big hands typing on a PDA. Have one yet?? Lol!!!!!!! Hey, but with you crazy beliefs we could just randomly punch keys and eventually type out a great classical Greek tragedy!!!!!
“I notice your ?lol?s? have not been capitalized lately”
Absolutely loving life. Another subject change? LOL!!!!!!!!
“you?re apparently saying gauwd is a self assigned lawyer”
Not sure, Mr Gauwd with a law firm? Another subject change?
|2014 March 03 08:03:00 PM (514)||[A] wwgha link 514. ||“God does murder” |
Um, God cannot murderer. He gives all life and can legally take it. Sorry although atheist believe “anything is possible” that is not by definition. :)
“Find me the DNA of a Harley or a Ferrari.”
Silly Freddie mouse, they do not have DNA! lol!! Find mw DNA in the primordial soup before any living thing existed !!!! Lol!!! You walked right onto that. However all processed and materials ARE available to create a Ferrari, well, other than a designer.
“Does it come down to which one makes you feel good?”
Oh silly Freddie mouse. Since now you want to move on to WHICH God, does that mean you are now a theist? Or is that ADD kicking in? Posting under both names I see……lol!!!!
|2014 March 03 12:03:00 PM (508)||[A] wwgha link 508. ||“Looking for Harleys on beaches” |
Oh silly Freddie mouse! You and Dippity Dew look for Ferraris on beaches. Remember? Enough time anything is possible? Yep, right on this blog more than one of your personas uttered such silliness!!!!! All materials are available and no intelligence needed!!!! lol!!!!!! Oh…..so silly
“Maybe you can answer if the bible is literally true”
O silly Freddie mouse! ADD kicking in? You can’t stick with one issue? The question is the existence of God? Is your only argument is that a magic sea turtle does not exist? Lol!!!!!!
You wouldn?t know science if it bit you on your sea turtle! Lol!
|2014 March 03 01:03:00 AM (501)||[A] wwgha link 501. ||“Don?t you understand science, ?science guy??” |
Oh Mousey…..you so silly. Bring back Freddie. Of course I do
But your silly stories are asteroids with amino acids starting life, lightning striking the primordial soup starting life and my personal favorite…..Crick’s Panspenia! Lol!!
Yes, I am a science guy. I can’t live as a fairytale guy like you! Lol!!!!!
Get well freddie-mouse. You wouldn’t know science if it bit you on your sea turtle! Lol!!!!!!!!!!
|2014 March 02 08:03:00 PM (498)||[A] wwgha link 498. ||“How do you contend the first cell developed, and where is the evidence that makes it any more plausible than sea turtle?” |
Do you believe in a sea turtle? I would imagine this is a magical sea turtle?
I assume this is your conceived intelligence behind creation? Well, make your case. You actually make a little more sense. Lol!!!!!
“You have been hammered and embarrassed soooooo many times on this ridiculous point, you really want to endure it again?”
Well, when possess such an ability then I will reconsider. Its just natural selection at work Dippity Dew Da! Lol!!!!
|2014 March 02 06:03:00 PM (495)||[A] wwgha link 495. ||“we are continuing to investigate and research” |
Oh, so all the previous claims over the years here are just children’s stories? Lol!!!!!!
“you actually have a definitive answer”
Oh Dippy! Didn’t you read Freddie mouse’s post above? It is it is a perfectly good answer since we are continuing to investigate and research. It doesn’t eliminate God silly. Lol!!!!!
Dippy, you heading to the beach to see if a Ferrari is a gonna wash up? Hey, gotta be possible right? If a programmer showed up in the soup why not a manufacturer? Lol!!!!!!!!!!!
|2014 March 02 04:03:00 AM (490)||[A] wwgha link 490. ||“We don?t know how life began so goddidit?.” |
lol, oh mousey! So silly. The God of the gaps theory is so childish! No thinking individual believes such silliness, well, other than atheists.
Knowing how a painting was painted, a car was manufactured or how an F-22 Raptor was constructed doesn’t eliminated the designer
You so silly mousey Freddie!! Lol!!!!!!!!!
And, as a man of science, you should answer the questions I have posted multiple times. You should be able to show me a process that can fill the role of programmer. No God right? Then the mystical programmer must be in nature. Let see it!!!!!
|2014 March 01 03:03:00 AM (484)||[A] wwgha link 484. ||“Did I miss something, little ?a??” |
oh silly Freddie- Mouse or maybe Anony- Fred! Lol;!!
I think the question should be “Did you hit ANYTHING”?. And the answer is no….lol!!!!
You essentially just farted in the wind with much babbling.
Why not answer many of the questions you have been asked?
How about rationalizing Information Theory with DNA and primordial soup programmers.
Defend your claim the Gospels have made up writers to “keep Christianity going”.
Defend your fish fossil as a transitional fossil using SM.
Nah! Run again…. Lol!!!!
|2014 February 27 02:02:00 AM (473)||[A] wwgha link 473. ||Lol!!!! |
DPK, Freddie and Mouse are all the same. Lol!!!! Should have known.
“If we have to work for something, or overcome a great struggle”
Typically, the left leaning progressives do not see the value in work. They prefer things be given to them. It like a kid who is given everything vs one who works for what they get.
I enjoy laughing at the same bunch who believe THEY know what a deity should and should not do. If they were ONLY really that bright! Lol!!!!
|2014 February 26 07:02:00 PM (468)||[A] wwgha link 468. ||Lol!! |
Oh Freddie mouse! Ok, you have been dying for me to give you attention so being the great guy I am I will.
Freddie mouse, when will you be defending the many claims you have made? I destroy your claims then you run away….lol!!!!!!!! Both as Freddie and now as your return as mouse?
Since it is clear you have no intention of every even attempting to do so, that renders you, once again, completely irrelevant. LOL!
Freddie mouse spewed “what then CHANGED to make this perfect being decide things weren?t actually perfect and needed to change”
Why did something need to change? Prove something did, oh wait, this is Freddie mouse….
|2014 February 26 06:02:00 PM (466)||[A] wwgha link 466. ||??so why create life when you know the ending? |
Why not? Its great! But if you are an atheist I could see your dilemma. No reason for existence, depression, the seemingly uselessness of life.
Then again God doesn’t have a need to answer to me for His actions. However, glad He created His masterpiece.
|2014 February 26 12:02:00 AM (455)||[A] wwgha link 455. ||Smelly , |
You planning to destroy Murcia? Is it because they will not embrace orthodox atheism? Beautiful little town, learn to embrace it.
Your first impression was better than guys like Alex and Freddie who post here. You did fine…..chin up!
|2014 February 25 04:02:00 PM (451)||[A] wwgha link 451. ||Why Even, |
This is not an argument in the classical sense. It is more luke moon landing believers vs deniers.
Atheist are a very small cult. They are God deniers while the rest of us recognize the obvious existence of God.
Now a genuine discussion can be had about which God is real and true. This is a legitimate debate that takes place regularly.
|2014 February 23 12:02:00 AM (5649)||[A] wwgha link 97. ||“should i trot the ?Book of Hor? which you are so afraid of? ” |
ROTFL!!!!!!!! This is some of the best stuff ever on this blog!
Sure I’m still everyone including Ravi. And yeah bring me the book!!!!! The Book of Whore! Great! Sounds like a great movie!
This is so fun! Lol!!!!!!!!
|2014 February 23 12:02:00 AM (432)||[A] wwgha link 432. ||“Except his name is Angus” |
ROTfL! No, that is his/her Tulip, remember when Butterfly created a Tulip? Are tulips his or her? They could be BI and just remain gender neutral. What about his/her obsession with the Ponies? Are they gender neutral?
Anyhow, as an atheist you guys need to reject you disrespect if woman. They are complaining and relating their stories.
|2014 February 22 10:02:00 PM (5647)||[A] wwgha link 95. ||Ravi, |
Forgot to add, alexis/ dpk (Moe) will claim we are the same poster. That sums up their contribution. Good luck! They are fun to just mess with.. .:)
|2014 February 22 10:02:00 PM (427)||[A] wwgha link 427. ||ROTFL!!! |
Moe using a name I never use! Lol!!!!! Check the spelling Moe, Agnus is feminine and thus correct. Your hatred of woman causes your mind to see insult due to you low view or woman. Its an atheist trait. Get help and stop hating. Lol!!
The consider this young atheist has two names and one is a made up Tulip who speaks for him/her! lol!!!
Add that to the long list of things you think you know, about which you are 100% wrong.
ROTFL, I luv you Moe. You make me laugh so
|2014 February 22 05:02:00 PM (5644)||[A] wwgha link 92. ||Ravi |
let me sum up what Alexis will hive you.
The end. Its all Alexis has to offer. Good luck Ravi.
|2014 February 22 05:02:00 PM (424)||[A] wwgha link 424. ||Note the underlying atheist hated toward women displayed by Moe. He sees calling someone she as an insult. He has never been a insult to Moe. |
Moe doesn’t even realize how he sets himself up as a sexist.
The name Agnus is typically she so I go with it. So sad Moe sees woman in such a inferior way.
Interesting note woman complain about poor treatment at atheist conferences around the world. Absolutely horrible……
|2014 February 22 04:02:00 PM (422)||[A] wwgha link 422. ||“I posted a (invalid) true definition that would make HIM not a true christian” |
That’s so cute. An invalid but true definition. Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I posted your hypocritical stand.
|2014 February 22 12:02:00 PM (419)||[A] wwgha link 419. ||“Angus and Alexis, how am I not a true Christian?? |
lol!!! This is the same Agnus that criticizes others when they judge if someone is a True Scotsman, Hitler for example. You know…….The No True Scotsman they like to claim of others? Lol!!!
Have you ever seen a group of people who know so much about something they don’t believe in?
Now she claims you, Messenger, are NOT a Christian because you “break parts of the Bible”. However she claims Hitler IS a Christian but he obviously broke many parts of the Bible.
Is this typical atheist logic? Yes…….yes it is…..sigh!
|2014 February 21 08:02:00 PM (410)||[A] wwgha link 410. ||“I have provided a rational and logical explanation as to why an omniscient god cannot be omnipotent” |
um, no you haven’t. You have posted “I don’t understand therefore it can’t be?.
Let me enlighten you. You have very poor logic skills. You need to read outside your narrow sphere of atheist blogs and read some writers you hate, that being theists. Your question is not new or even that difficult!!!!!!!! Lol!!!!!!!
But I have seen your ilk before. You will remain ignorant because you are unteachable.
so sad Moe….
“You know next to nothing about the magical powers of my garden gnome”
Uh huh, ok, back away from the ledge slllooowwwlllyyy there there Moe…….lol!!!!!!!!
Been fun but gotta run. Late!
|2014 February 21 07:02:00 PM (408)||[A] wwgha link 408. ||“No it doesn?t? isn?t any answer.” |
I agree so why do you continue the silly argument you will not give evidence for?
“I have not ever said ?primordial soup wrote DNA code?.”
So that was Freddie with the lies? Lol! Never argued against it! Lol!!!! aliens?
You don”t know is just a way of bailing out, yes? You know next to nothing about God too so stop with your silly claims you cannot prove. I don’t know makes you look a little smarter.
Oh Moe, will your comedy never stop! Lol!!!
|2014 February 21 04:02:00 PM (406)||[A] wwgha link 406. ||“Despite you empty schoolyard protestations? yes I have.” |
Uh actually you have not. What you have proven is you don’t understand. Not surprising. Your education is very limited. Very elementary with simpleton like analysis. They are completely different scenarios.
Early I again showed who you believe primordial soup wrote high information DNA code, but as you have demonstrated time and time again…..you have no clue how it could happen
So there you go. Now if you can prove the impossibility of omniscience and omnipotence co-existing do so. If not go back to making fries…..lol!!!!
|2014 February 21 04:02:00 AM (403)||[A] wwgha link 403. ||“I have proved the impossibility of omniscience and omnipotence co-existing.? |
Actually you haven’t but feel free to prove it anytime. You have a record of lies and misinformation….lol!!!
|2014 February 20 11:02:00 PM (393)||[A] wwgha link 393. ||“leads me to conclude that the god that you say is both omnipotent and omniscient” |
Awesome. Looking gorward to your proof. This should be good! Now using the scientific method proves this phenomena has never and can never be possible.
Now keep this in mind. You do believe primordial soup can write high information codes in a cell therefore you have acknowledged the seemingly impossible. Got the popcorn……..munch…..munch….
|2014 February 20 10:02:00 PM (389)||[A] wwgha link 389. ||“As I have said, repeatedly, I don?t care.” |
Well, I would believe you but you opened you pie hole and attempted to defend Larry!!
lol!!! So, the case is more of you cannot defend the lies of Larry and then you bring more lies about what Jesus claims of God.
“Is there any conceivable scenario in which an individual can possibly choose an option that is different from that which an omniscient god already knows?”
My Response: I don?t care. If you want to review the evidence, do the research. My suspicion is you will simply dismiss or ignore any evidence you don?t like. Lol!!!! I give what I am given.
|2014 February 20 08:02:00 PM (386)||[A] wwgha link 386. ||“there is quite a lot of historical evidence that the gospels attributed to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not written by people named Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John.” |
Great lets hear it. I hope its not more lies you and Larry like to throw around
Don’t forget to provide proof the hoax was used to keep Christianity going.
Hint: an atheist blog would not pass as a solid source.
“why do you keep bringing this up”
so I can learn truth.
“attempt to change the subject?”
I didnt bring it up, Larry did. You will need to ask him.
|2014 February 20 07:02:00 PM (383)||[A] wwgha link 383. ||“You are right and I am mistaken” |
Well yeah, that is always the case. Lol!
So lets revisit another question you fail to answer due to the fact you know very little of what you speak. Let me repost for you”
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)?”
Do we have by evidence of this? Good luck Moe! Lol!!!!
|2014 February 20 12:02:00 PM (376)||[A] wwgha link 376. ||“2nd, where does either Jesus or god the father say they are the same person? Nowhere” |
Do atheists ever check anything but atheist blogs? Lol! Atheist theologians……lol!!!
“I and the father are one”. Jn 10:30
Jesus states numerous other times “If you have seen the me you have seen the Father”. Also He calls Himself ” I Am” which is a title for God from the OT.
So Moe, got your evidence yet?
|2014 February 20 02:02:00 AM (372)||[A] wwgha link 372. ||“If ?A? has some actual evidence that would dispute this” |
lol!! I don’t have to dispute anything you have not proved. Your consensus claim is drivle. Prove it.
Lets try again.
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)?
Oh and the Bible does not claim who the authors are. That is written by theologians! That is the whole issue silly! Saving to save you from more embarrassment Moe! Lol!!!
|2014 February 19 06:02:00 PM (359)||[A] wwgha link 359. ||“newflash reminder. what?s the atheist(s) claim(s)?” |
I am so glad you asked Curly. Let me repost for your convenience:
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)?
Who can step forward and defend the atheist claim?
|2014 February 19 12:02:00 PM (354)||[A] wwgha link 354. ||“You can always tell when someone is completely and utterly defeated intellectually” |
very true, when they continually run from a claim you know they are beaten. But even more telling is when they try………so……..hard…… to change the subject. lol!!!!! Very reminiscent of a politician…..doncha think?
And Then!……Suddenly.. ….they become so serious…..lol!
Love ya Curly!
|2014 February 19 03:02:00 AM (351)||[A] wwgha link 351. ||“The last desperate ploy? name calling” |
ROTFL!!!!!!! The stooges are calling others out for name-calling. Well, we can’t all have the same class as Moe, Larry and curly! And we are all thankful!
Moe you left out a whoo whoo whoo whoo!
How big an impact does being called a heretic by an atheist have on you? Funny how they view themselves as such accomplished theologians…..for a deity they claim….does not exist……lol!!!!
|2014 February 19 12:02:00 AM (342)||[A] wwgha link 342. ||“I notice you offer absolutely nothing in response” |
You noticed? How observant! Well yeah, I give what I an given.
lol!!!! I mean who needs to acknowledge conspiracy theorist!!!!!
When you are ready to respond to hoax #1 as offered up by Freddie boy, let me know. Then we can deal with your hoax claim.
Ah, the three stooges…..you are always so priceless.
Dippity you can be Moe.
|2014 February 18 11:02:00 AM (338)||[A] wwgha link 338. ||“discussing the history of a religion based upon a being that you can?t even demonstrate could possibly exist.” |
lol!!! Yep that’s is just another elaborate hoax too! Lol!!!
Oh Dippity Dew, first with Gospel being used to keep Christianity going now with the God hoax. Well if you decide Freddie is not a liar, and you have evidence of the hoax let me know slick.
|2014 February 18 03:02:00 AM (336)||[A] wwgha link 336. ||Oh Dippity Dew……you are such a shallow thinker and so silly. |
So you gave up? Can’t prove the Gospels were used as a hoax to keep Christianity going? And you want me to jump to other issues with such blatant liars? You must prove yourself Dippity and you are batting well below the Mendoza line…:)
|2014 February 18 12:02:00 AM (334)||[A] wwgha link 334. ||“No idea, do you have a theory? Lol.” |
So you still side with Freddie? This huge conspiracy to keep Christianity going? Lol! Well you do believe primordial soup wrote DNA code. Lol !!!!
|2014 February 17 11:02:00 PM (332)||[A] wwgha link 332. ||“Is that why you refuse to answer, ?A??” |
I only give what is given.
Lets assume for a moment a hoax as unsteady Freddie implies happened with authorship of the Gospels. Why would they use Luke, not a disciple, a companion of Paul’s as an author. More so why Mark, a small player, not a disciple, is the scheme of the NT? Hmmm?
To make the hoax effective why not claim Jesus penned one or more of the books and Peter one of the Gospels?
Funny……..I am sure unsteady believed all 4 were disciples.
So whadda ya say there Dippity Dew? Freddie is a liar or can you substantiate his claims?
Your question is quite simple but we must…..must stay on track.
|2014 February 17 09:02:00 PM (330)||[A] wwgha link 330. ||“Freddie has based his claim on historical evidence that would suggest that his claim is likely true” |
Historical evidence? Lol!!! Let see that evidence that proves the gospels were not written by the stated authors AND it was used to keep Christianity going.
This should be good. I like truth and sounds like we have some nee truth here. If these guys have been duping the world we need to know. You know we need facts right? Not atheist blog “facts” or ad home in……lol!!!!!!!!!!
|2014 February 17 06:02:00 PM (327)||[A] wwgha link 327. ||“To what motive, one can only speculate, but if I were trying to convince people of the reality” |
So Freddie now just speculates? No no my dear boy. Freddie made a claim..so is he a liar or can you provide proof of this purposeful deception? We need to know so we can tell all the truth
Stay focused rather than than attempting to change the subject.:)
|2014 February 17 12:02:00 PM (322)||[A] wwgha link 322. ||Dippity dew! |
Oh my! You never defend Freddie boys position. You only make a claim and that I don’t have a position. Answering the question would comprise of:
1. Defending the claim the authors of the Gospels did not write them AND the church used this false information to keep Chriranity going.
2. Or agree Freddie is a liar.
BTW. Mark does give an account of the resurrection.
Anywho, for someone who demands answers to a questions you sure Bo not follow through.
Love ya babe. You silver tongue devil you! Lol! What finishing school was that?
|2014 February 17 01:02:00 AM (319)||[A] wwgha link 319. ||Dippity you are back. |
Lets focus and see if we can get this questioned answered. Freddie ran like a coward
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)”
Did Freddie lie? Is there proof this was done to “keep control over others”.
Try to focus and answer honestly. Throw in some colorful f-bombs if you find your vocabulary lacking. Set a record, answer your first question :)
|2014 February 16 06:02:00 PM (317)||[A] wwgha link 317. ||I love that Alex dude. The words are just like honey off the screen. Now Alex is guy you what to hold up as an example for those taking classical speaking….:)|
|2014 February 15 11:02:00 PM (311)||[A] wwgha link 311. ||“dude, toldya already. every atheist is a liar” |
Not true my dear Alexander. Freddie and Dippy dew are liars but you I admire. You are accomplished, well spoken and not afraid to speak your mind. Not to mention your tolerance and obvious love for all mankind. You are a role model every parent would like to hold up to their children.
Now if we can just get Dippity dew to acknowledge that Freddie boy I’d a liar. You know but don’t believe Dip can bring himself to recognize the obvious. Lol, he tries so hard to change the subject…..hee hee
|2014 February 15 06:02:00 PM (308)||[A] wwgha link 308. ||“Freddie?s opinion is in line with the majority of biblical scholars who actually study such things” |
um, actually……..No! and if you read a Bible….. ever you would find authorship is still attributed to the Gospel writers. Lol! But MORE importantly, Then how many then claim that authorship was used to continue the hoax of Christianity?
whadda ya think spunky?
“you have no horse in this race, and your grumblings are just a fart in the wind”
oh but I do. Exposing liars who claim Christianity was kept going by lying about Gospel authorship… :)
You like to skip that lie. So we agree? Freddie is a liar?
|2014 February 15 02:02:00 PM (306)||[A] wwgha link 306. ||” fine? then why do you care what anyone?s opinion on the matter is if you have no counter claim?” |
He didn’t give opinion he made a claim. Opinions start with “in my opinion”. See how that works? Lol!!
You really are confused. So you agree with me….Freddie is a liar and his claim is no more than opinion?
“Have you found any questions yet that I have not answered?”
You have answered none. That was easy. Go back and pick a couple and answer them..Geez….about time.
|2014 February 14 07:02:00 PM (302)||[A] wwgha link 302. ||“What evidence do you have that these carefully selected gospels were written by people who were actually eye witnesses to the supposed events?” |
I didn’t make the claim……freddie did claim they were not the authors AND it was used by the early church to perpetuate a hoax and to keep Christianity. going.
I thought you were going to come to his rescue and provide evidence. Guess not, huh?
So many posts ago and still no supporting evidence.
|2014 February 14 01:02:00 PM (300)||[A] wwgha link 300. ||“Who do you think wrote them, and why were only these gospels included in the Christian bible, despite many others?” |
If not the referenced writers then who? Why did they pretend to be an eyewitness for a belief system that would get your murdered? So you are claiming the apostles Luke, Matt and Mark died as martyrs death to propagate a lie? How did they benefit? Many more more martyrs even a century later. So prove the Gospels were written as a big hoax to control the masses.
I don’t need to challenge when you have not asserted anything with evidence.
Now try again.
|2014 February 13 08:02:00 PM (298)||[A] wwgha link 298. ||None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)?. Freddy |
Wonderful claim??can he support it??..
The answer is a resounding no. Freddie tells another lie. Sorry Freddie, not my intention to embarrass you but liars must be exposed. You’ll learn from this.
|2014 February 13 02:02:00 PM (296)||[A] wwgha link 296. ||“Unless you?re presenting the evidence for your God?s existence all I?ll be doing is pointing out your dishonesty” |
well would you do it already? Lol!! You will nit because you lie.
so moving on. Can you support this claim with some evidence? Use the scientific method if you like :)
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)?. Freddy
Wonderful claim……can he support it?…..
|2014 February 13 01:02:00 AM (291)||[A] wwgha link 291. ||And once again Dippity Dew glosses over every challenged made to him again! |
Now he wants me to go back over all the questions which have gone unanswered! Lol!!!!!
Dippys claims dismissed.
|2014 February 12 08:02:00 PM (289)||[A] wwgha link 289. ||“The one person you are MOST dishonest with here is yourself.” |
ROTFL!!!! Self time to be honest with self.
“You, Mr. ?A? are a complete and total fraud.”
LOL!!!!! You right, I am not really A, I am Megatron. I have bee a fraud attempting to pass myself off as A but inside I knew I was just Megatron. I can see it now! I even pretended to be everyone on the blog! My apologies to the real A and all.
Dippy you make me laugh so. The blog is where your feel real life happens, huh:)
Since it is so serious to you Dippity Doo, start by answering the many questions I have posed to you time and time again!
Prediction: Dippy will not follow through, again. Do I think him a fraud, dishonest, lacking character as he paints me? Nah, just way over his head with the serious questions of life!
|2014 February 12 06:02:00 PM (287)||[A] wwgha link 287. ||Awwwww, another epic failure by Freddie. Lets recap his lies again for our readers. |
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)?. Freddy
Second claim with mo evidence:
“You?re a liar, A, plain and simple.”
“I?ll be doing is pointing out your dishonesty.”
Well he hasn’t pointed out dishonesty. But atheist do discuss others more than issues.
Fourth and final:
“You even lie about your own identity.”
Hmmmmm, never revealed my identity. My name is not A. Lol!!!!!! So……maybe he has a point! I hope dead Freddie is not his real identity! Lol!!!
|2014 February 11 09:02:00 PM (284)||[A] wwgha link 284. ||Now unsteady Freddie comes back with personal insults. Truly sad but totally expected. Way back on this thread Freddie made a claim he stands behind yet will provide no supporting evidence for his truth claim: |
“?None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)?. Freddy
He claims I am the liar but has no proof of that either. There it is for all to see. I can only surmise Freddie has no character or integrity.
|2014 February 10 06:02:00 PM (281)||[A] wwgha link 281. ||I am indeed a prophet! Unsteady Freddie comes back, attempts to change the subject and refused to support his claim! Lol!!! |
Lets remind our readers of Freddie’s claim of which he provides no proof!
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)?. Freddy
|2014 February 07 10:02:00 PM (274)||[A] wwgha link 274. ||“Ahh? so ?A? is a Theodore Beale fan, so much so that he plagiarizes his writings and post under his pseudonym” |
ROTFL!!! WHOO!!!!, so the name “Vox” AND the part where I state “Vox Day notes” in the post didn’t meet proper footnoting for a……..blog! Maybe I should have quoted fellow atheist, Stalin!
A fan of Vox? No not really but he can back up his claims. And Dippy, it got you to do some research!!
That reminds me…. Where is unsteady Freddie? Still hiding?
|2014 February 07 07:02:00 PM (271)||[A] wwgha link 271. ||“After all it was God that created every one of those atheists and it was God who planned that they should kill all those people. Such a loving and merciful God you Christians have got there.” |
After unsteaday freddie defends his other truth claim I will then destroy this one. Don’t want to give him more reasons to run. :)
|2014 February 07 07:02:00 PM (270)||[A] wwgha link 270. ||“Vox (A pretending to be someone else” |
ROTFL!!!!!!! I gladly admit I posted Vox and used his name. Its called integrity. Lol!!!!!
unlike Freddie busted as anonymous and continued to lie. Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then Brazzier!
I posted it as Vox because Vox wrote it. That was for Alex not for you. He wanted some actual deaths caused by atheists. Lol!! Its a specialty!!!
But Geez, what have I done. Gave unsteady Freddie a chance to run from his truth claim. Lets try again.
staging by ut???
Still running Freddie??? His claim:
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others. (sic)”
Well Freddie lets see you defend it…… My truth claim…..he runs, changes subject. Watch it unfold!
|2014 February 07 12:02:00 AM (246)||[A] wwgha link 246. ||Lol!! So paranoid and funny |
Love ya buddy.
Lets see if freddie-boy can support his claims I related in 241. My money is on he will run and change the subject. Lets watch…..
|2014 February 06 11:02:00 PM (244)||[A] wwgha link 244. ||Alexander, |
You seem like a highly intelligent young man. A great education, a fine finishing school and some keen insight into contemporary issues. Maybe you could shed some light on the claims made by Freddie? Your analysis would be greatly welcomed.
|2014 February 06 10:02:00 PM (241)||[A] wwgha link 241. ||“Where?s your evidence that Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Josephus were in some sort of conspiracy? I?ve never” |
Never claimed you did. You claim the church started a conspiracy to keep control. Here let me post your words again to remind you.
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others.?
Ouch! Gonna provide proof of any of that freddie-boy?
No, didn’t think so…..lol!!!!!
Run Freddie Run!!!!
|2014 February 06 12:02:00 PM (235)||[A] wwgha link 235. ||“Lonely people need friends, not IMAGINARY friends” |
yeah! They need a Tulip like Agnus has in Alexi!
“Prayer does not help the sick, poor, nor sad.”
Funny……..they tell me it does and even ask for it. But Agnus, just for you and Alexi I will lass along your um, we, eh….advice…
|2014 February 05 06:02:00 PM (226)||[A] wwgha link 226. ||Let me repost freddie-boy from 118 since he has memory issues. Forgive his sentence structure. |
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going ? and add to them ? is simply to gain and then keep control over others.”
Lets see if he can prove any if this.
popcorn heating up…
|2014 February 05 05:02:00 PM (225)||[A] wwgha link 225. ||” So far you?ve presented nothing but unsubstantiated assertions in response.” |
My assertion continues your fact claim has not been supported. You seem reluctant to provide PROOF that solidly support what you call Truth. Need names and there fact based claims which leave no doubt.
“the Church used authorship of the Gospels to further Christianity? Proof please! Lol!; still holding oit
Can you show where I made any such claim?”
Yes, in your original claim withe the Gospels. I reposted it multiple times. Proof please! Lol!!!!!
While you research your claims so we can call them truth, as you claim, look up macroevolution. HINT: It is the opposite of micro. I know you like to pretend all evolution has the same proof however that is only your delusion.
Now come on! Bring that truth so we can all convert!
|2014 February 05 12:02:00 PM (221)||[A] wwgha link 221. ||“Josephus and Tacitus ? you seem to have forgotten that this is where the discussion started.” |
You seem to have forgotten I challenged your Gospel claims! Strike 4
“No doubt you have an exhaustive list of Biblical scholars that you can provide to back up your assertion here?”
Absolutely, but why only modern? Your now have evidence of your next claim that the Church used authorship of the Gospels to further Christianity? Proof please! Lol!; still holding oit
And further, the fact you don’t realize all the scholars who support authorship of Gospels by those named means you know zero about the subject.
“theistic worldview crumbles under the weight of evidence”
lol!!!!! I am a man of truth. Bring on the truth and I will happily change. It must be more than looking at a bump on a fish fossil and claiming you know observe macro evolution! strike 6
Amd lastly, you don’t even know the definition of macroevolurion? My spell checker knows the word! ROTFL!!! STRIKE?
|2014 February 05 03:02:00 AM (219)||[A] wwgha link 219. ||Dorothy M. Murdock? |
ok, now I didn’t see where she claimed the NT Gospels as you claim (liar) was not written by the authors as listed. Strike 1!
she is a writer, don’t see her listed as a scholar. Strike 2!
Most academic scholars disagree with her writins. Strike 3, you are out again.
You need to stop staring at fossils until you dee macroevoltion happening (lol!!!!) and het a clue unsteady freddie. No wonder you tried to hide your um ER uh….scholars.
No time to check out your other Mensa. Dorothy was enough.
|2014 February 04 06:02:00 PM (213)||[A] wwgha link 213. ||“Nope. Post 111.” |
Liar unless you…are…Dippy….and even then no scholars.
‘Nope. Post 154.”
Liar, you other sock posted opinion.
“The transitional fossil found using the scientific method ”
No the fish fossil you assume is transitioning into another species……wait, do you have supporting evidence it is transitioning into another creature?
Oh, never mind, your cop out is all fossils are transitional.
lol!!!!! I guess we can quite looking.
“You offered nothing that was a problem for evolution”
No, just that macro evolution has zero evidence using SM.
It not observable
Oh, a fossil is not observing macroevolution.
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!! We can dig out Lincoln and claim we are observing the Gettysburg Address!! ROTFL!!!
|2014 February 04 01:02:00 AM (205)||[A] wwgha link 205. ||“fossil record, when cross referenced with anatomy, and genetic trees, fits perfectly, and is the single most compelling piece of evidence for evolution.” |
ROTFL!! What did you copy that from….lol!!!!
Now this is true for microevolution but we don’t need fossils for that.
Lets continue the claim. We find a jaw bone for dinosaur X. Lets see, we compare this to which anatomy? Maybe a tool? Lol!…. then make Ass-umptions X, Y, Z after hiring a great artist!
Then of course we take the fossilized jaw, hire a creative artist and shake the gene tree!! Lol!!!!!
Oh Agnus! So young and gullible. So how dat soup create that first cell Agnis? That should be easy with some anatomy and genes. Lol!!!
|2014 February 03 11:02:00 PM (196)||[A] wwgha link 196. ||” fossil record is far more compelling evidence” |
Evidence of what?
Dippy, make yourself useful and post the two scholars never-steady Freddie claimed he referenced!
Thanks go coming
|2014 February 03 09:02:00 PM (194)||[A] wwgha link 194. ||“I have provided the names of 2 scholars. |
“Brazza presented some of the evidence”
Putting on your sock makes neither claim true.
Just another fish fossil that leads nowhere…..
|2014 February 03 01:02:00 AM (179)||[A] wwgha link 179. ||“Messy, millions of people worldwide watched David Copperfield make the Statue of Liberty disappear” |
Dippy. I was just in NY, the statue is still there……geez …..lol!!!!
Tell me…….how did the first cell create itself from the primordial soup? That is more impressive than Dip’s fear that the statue disappeared! Lol!!!
|2014 January 31 11:01:00 PM (167)||[A] wwgha link 167. ||” back about the discussion about evolution” |
Hey! Great idea Alexis. Using the scientific method, prove that macroevolution or takes place. I couldn’t get Freddie to answer that one either.
I need more than f-bombs and weak attempts at insults. I am a man of science.
“prove that your all knowing god gives you free will?”
Scholars say so.:)
|2014 January 31 08:01:00 PM (164)||[A] wwgha link 164. ||“So many demands from someone who never responds in any honest way to even the simplest of questions.” |
I agree DPK. I ask one question to Freddie…simply back up his claim and responds with questions.
I guess since he can’t back up his claims he is just a boy of faith. lol!!!
|2014 January 31 05:01:00 PM (162)||[A] wwgha link 162. ||“Name them. I?ve already named a couple” |
Great!! List one or two in your next post so we can examine their claims. List a couple who claim the synoptic were named with their current names to “keep Christianity going”.
We are getting closer! Warming up the popcorns sgain……
|2014 January 31 04:01:00 PM (160)||[A] wwgha link 160. ||Freddie-boy!!, I answered you in post 158! Lol!!!! |
Come on buddy, if you can just use scholars as your answer why can’t I my boy!
sigh….I guess freddie’s truth was not really truth after all. Popcorn getting cold and Freddie is dead.
Wait, was Brazier your scholar? Lol!! He was, you!!
PS: I will take apart claim 1 when I am done with 2. Part of the excitement is hooking the fish and letting it run. ????
|2014 January 31 03:01:00 PM (158)||[A] wwgha link 158. ||“I have asked you several times now to provide your argument supporting the existence of the Christian God” |
Yes you have, although I have made no claim. But let me answer so you understand. Scholars make the claim.
There you go!!
|2014 January 31 02:01:00 PM (157)||[A] wwgha link 157. ||“Nope, the work of the historical scholars as I?ve already noted.” |
sigh………..no you have not noted……still opinion and vague references. So lets have all these scholars and the arguments….. Lol!!!
Remember, you claimed truth so every scholar would all conclude Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were written by others.
The best part…….they would all conclude that was a myth to keep Christianity going……lol!!!;;!;!
I have the popcorn ready. This will be good!!!!
|2014 January 30 10:01:00 PM (153)||[A] wwgha link 153. ||Brazier, |
First I made no claims of Josephus or Tacitus. Therefore you have a reading comprehension problem.
Second, on the synoptic Gospels you have yet to provide sources for your contentions. On John, you have yet to provide sources for your contentions. PS: Better check your dates……
Third, you claim referring to me “You don?t seem to up to date on knowledge of biblical scholarship”. Only one problem. I made zero claims. I did ask for Freddie and now you to provide proof of your claims. You and Freddie failed.
You then claim “there is no credible evidence that Jesus ever existed.”
LOL!!!!!!!!!, a relatively new claim without substance that is a mere fabrication to help the atheist talking points. Dismissed without supporting evidence.
PS: I am very aware of Biblical scholarship and very familiar with the ancient and modern claims. However, Freddie made a very bold “Truth” claim therefore he should support such a bold assertion. Agreed? Feel free to try again.
|2014 January 30 07:01:00 PM (151)||[A] wwgha link 151. ||“Claim 2 is regarding the authorship of the gospels i.e. they were written anonymously and the attributions of authorship (made in the 2nd century) are almost certainly incorrect” |
Run Freddie run. You are doubling down on your claim and sill have provided 0, zero, nada evidence to support. lol!!!!!!!
What makes there authorship “almost certainly incorrect”? Your imagination? Lol!!!!!
By now after a google search you have found you have no leg to stand on. Thus you continue to just state your silly opinion.
I have purposely have not even referenced claim 1. You have imagined I referenced that it seems? Lol!!! However if I even needed to I could take that apart to…..lol!!!
Run! Freddie! Run! lol!!!!
|2014 January 30 05:01:00 PM (148)||[A] wwgha link 148. ||Oh freddie-boy! You have really become bold in your lying. Let me repost your claim. |
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going?
Now you try to claim all you stated was:
“the paragraphs in Josephus and Tacitus were later forgeries.”
Oh what a tangled web you weave when first you practice to deceive!
care to retract your first claim or do you lack the integrity?
|2014 January 30 03:01:00 PM (141)||[A] wwgha link 141. ||Ok, I want to remind our readers of the claim made by Freddie of which has has yet to defend. |
“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going”
Forgive his sentence organization but his claim is clear. Be contends they were written to keep Christianity “going”. So by who? We get no answer and now he has ran. Can anyone back his position or are we dealing with just one of many lies by atheists?
|2014 January 30 02:01:00 AM (134)||[A] wwgha link 134. ||“Just as I said, the hypocrite is utterly unable to present evidence that any conspiracy exists” |
I agree, no conspiracy exists. Therefore your claim has been shot down and you now admit it.
Here is your lesson. Don’t make claims you can’t substantiate and I will not need to embarrass you. You bring it on yourself silly Freddie.
Now, you can go fishing or go go work tomorrow. Make the choice it’s OK…..God has given you a free will. But who will serve the fries if you go fish??? Lol!
However, God does know what you will do.
|2014 January 29 10:01:00 PM (130)||[A] wwgha link 130. ||“Cause all the historical scholars are atheists. Lol. It?s only you that thinks this is some sort of conspiracy” |
ROTFL!!! I must say my predictions are right on. Not one shred of evidence historically or scientifically to back Freddie Boy’s conspiracy claim.
Can you save Freddie? Can you provide all this proof to support his conspiracy theory?
Still can’t define this hypothetical x or y? In just a bit I will be making a CHOICE where to eat supper. You must be sad not having a choice….lol!!!
|2014 January 29 08:01:00 PM (126)||[A] wwgha link 126. ||You asked a question Dippy? Where? You mean the one you just asked? Lol!!!! |
I on the other hand did ask one and Freddie again has run from it……..
But hey! You are here……care to provide proof of Fred’s truth claim? Then we can answer your question. You can start by defining X….lol!!!
Quickly now, my time is limited.
|2014 January 29 05:01:00 PM (123)||[A] wwgha link 123. ||” glad you enjoyed it. Shame for you that it?s true though.” |
I did, nearly choked on my coffee laughing…..
Fred offers an atheist truth claim? Great! Let see the proof of your truth claim using the scientific method.
Prediction: all Fred will offer is atheist conspiracy theories……..
Maybe Agnus will misuse omniscient again which will be funny.????
|2014 January 29 04:01:00 PM (119)||[A] wwgha link 119. ||“None of Matthew, Mark , Luke or John wrote the gospels that were attributed to them, but the reason to keep the Christian lies going” |
Whoooo! Love the atheist conspiracy theorists!
Thanks for the great laugh Fred.
|2014 January 29 03:01:00 PM (116)||[A] wwgha link 116. ||“if one is able to do something that an omniscient being already knows you will do, then that being is not omniscient.” |
lol!!!!!! Wow! You guys don’t even try to hide your ignorance.
ok….schools in session…..
If an omnipotent being decides to give you free will an make your own choice has he acted in accordance with his omniscience and omnipotence?
He knows what you will choose.
Notice above the action words known as verbs taken by the deity exercising authority.
|2014 January 29 02:01:00 PM (113)||[A] wwgha link 113. ||So I can go against the will of an omnipotent God?” |
Yes! Its called freewill silly…..sigh!
” I can do something an omniscient God doesn?t know I?m going to do?”
No!,that’s called omniscience silly! Stay with me here. God is not an atheist on a power trip. He will allow you to make bad chooses but still have the foreknowledge you will make them. Really a simple concept.
The conspiracy theorist so tickle me. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Josephus all conspired to make up Jesus. What did they gain? Three were put to death and one was exiled. Yes! I can see why they would make Jesus up! lol!!!!!!
|2014 January 28 09:01:00 PM (86)||[A] wwgha link 86. ||Dippy, |
Sorry but Frederick and I have spoken. This is obviously above your understanding. You will have to be able to think above a child-later like level.
|2014 January 28 05:01:00 PM (82)||[A] wwgha link 82. ||“There?s no way you could do other than what God wills ? otherwise He wouldn?t be omnipotent” |
Well spoken…..well stated but again completely wrong. An omnipotent being can have a plan but allow you to make your own choice……..which is WHY the deity is omnipotent! Lol!!
Seriously!, you think an omnipotent can’t follow through on a plan regardless of the choice of a man?
The liberal part of atheists will not allow them to see an omnipotent being who does not strong-arm his creation into obedience. That’s understandable.
|2014 January 28 03:01:00 PM (76)||[A] wwgha link 76. ||Lol!!! Dippy and his simpleton analysis……sigh |
God knowing what you will inevitably choose does not invalidate your choice. You still have the choice to make.
You are a puppet, but not due to God’s foreknowledge :)
|2014 January 24 07:01:00 PM (54)||[A] wwgha link 54. ||Mess, |
Great Job! The Agnus Butterfly has been exposed……AGAIN!…….as contradictory, hypocritical and just ignorant of all subject matters outside of Tulips! Lol!!
I read a post or two and just laughed at his/her comedy of reasoning! Thanks Mess!
|2014 January 21 04:01:00 PM (21)||[A] wwgha link 21. ||40 YA I love the list but is it complete? I will need to ponder. |
We need to add this incorrigible need to form a religion in order to proclaim no God exists. That could #21. Will they be forming churches to proclaim that Santa and Leprechauns do mo exist?….the S&L church? Lol!!!!!
|2014 January 12 03:01:00 AM (11)||[A] wwgha link 11. ||“Your an Idiot” |
lol!!! Yes! You are mine! Lol!!
Sorry I had to shut the blog down boys. I am just too busy to keep things going.
|2013 December 19 03:12:00 AM (6972)||[Everyone] wwgha link 1057. ||“To summarize nearly all of Alex?s comments” |
I means I rarely bother to read them! LOL!!!!
I do hope the dude gets help. You know the guys has no friends, a girl or hope. He is the angriest and funniest guys to frequent a blog!
Mary Christmas All!
|2013 December 18 11:12:00 AM (6965)||[Everyone] wwgha link 1050. ||“What does this prove? It proves they were immoral (subjectively), insane bastards.” |
Insane? Well they were atheists Butterfly! Ouch! lol!!!!!
But why were they immoral? Hmmmmm? Because you say so? Why is your morality better than theirs? They believed in Marxist principles and they were making mankind better.
|2013 December 17 12:12:00 PM (6950)||[Everyone] wwgha link 1035. ||LOL!!!! |
Look!!!, the guys who claim no moral absolutes are passing absolutes on how a deity should suppose to act.
They claim no absolutes for themselves but God should have them.
|2013 December 17 01:12:00 AM (8)||[Everyone] wwgha link 8. ||“nobody is asking you to do anything” |
Oh Alexander! Silly Willy, the thread is about an atheist vs a Christian apologist.
Such a simple little fella. Remember, seek help this Christmas season. This is the greatest gift you can give to yourself.
|2013 December 16 03:12:00 AM (6)||[Everyone] wwgha link 6. ||Interesting post. We are suppose to believe the atheist student rendition of events that took place with this Christian professor. How honorable he chose not to release the professors name or an outside source to verify the claims. |
On a similar note, atheist hero Lawrence Krauss was recently busted in his debates with William Lane Craig for purposely misrepresenting a letter from Alexander Vilenkin in order to support a point. In other words he lied and hoped not to be discovered.
Krauss was desperate since he had already been scorched by Craig in a debate at NC State. Of course for the atheist Krauss, his lies supported what he considers a greater good therefore it was OK. Typical tactics in the atheist world.
|2013 December 16 03:12:00 AM (6939)||[Everyone] wwgha link 1024. ||“camaros, chevys, oh my!” |
Hahahahaha, Oh Alexander, Camaros are chevys silly!
You are so cute! Listen, do get some help for your anger/bipolar disorder during the Christmas season. Don’t want to see you end up hurting yourself or others.
Mary Christmas Alexander!
|2013 December 15 12:12:00 AM (6924)||[Everyone] wwgha link 1009. ||Dippy!! |
Alright forgot your words eh? Let me share what you said:
?It is ok to lie when the consequences of lying would cause more good than harm.?
These are your words.
Wouldn’t this apply for Hitler too?
Maybe you mean it is only moral if YOU THINK it is “Good” and causes no “harm”?
|2013 December 14 07:12:00 PM (6920)||[Everyone] wwgha link 1005. ||“Again you miss the point” |
No not at all. We used your standard for lying to Hitler’s actions.
Hitler claims he was “good” and preventing “harm”.
Therefore according to Dippy, Hitler was moral in his actions.
Dippy is a very sock (lol!) puppy.
Seems WWGHA blog is on its last legs.
Have a Merry Christmas.
|2013 December 13 01:12:00 AM (6903)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 988. ||Um, alex |
I am A, also Science Guy, Ths Sckence Guy and A40Y-HorX-Troll. Geez just ask. I’ll save you the trouble. But stay busy, idle hands…..
And, no, I didn’t click you link…lol!!!!!. Maybe when I was a Jr High student Hey, link me with any name you like slick…. .
|2013 December 13 12:12:00 AM (6901)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 986. ||“Messy says your code says it is? is he right?” |
lol!!!! He has to be right?..nothing is absolute in atheist land. So tell me, is Mess right?
why does Agnus disagree with you about lying? He is quite clear he distress with you? Why?
|2013 December 12 09:12:00 PM (6898)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 983. ||“dishonest and devious” |
No such thing in atheist world.
“Is it ok to force a woman to marry her rapist.”
Define OK. Define force. Give me a reason why this would be wrong.
Agnus told us earlier he disagreed with you. Lying to him is wrong. So, which is it in atheist land?
|2013 December 12 08:12:00 PM (6895)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 980. ||“Whay can?t you answer ANY questions about the specifics of your moral code, ever?” |
why? No absolutes correct? Therefore no matter what I claim it can be considered moral……..always……..because there are NO absolutes.
Whay!!! Silly Dippy, can’t even see your own implications of you’d stupidity.
lol!!!! Like how you picked up my lols and my usage of silly. Its an honor teaching you about the TOE too!!
|2013 December 12 06:12:00 PM (6892)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 977. ||“Is it legal or moral? Don?t confuse the two silly” |
lol!!!! Impossible to please atheist. Agnus not long ago claimed laws and culture determined morality and now Dippy has a spell when we link the two!
“Was it moral to drop the A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki”
You can’t even tell me when stealing is OK! Lol!!! Much less deal with the morality of war!
Now you claim stoning is immoral? When and Why?Prediction: No answer!
This is like Dawkins God Delusion. First half he argues against moral absolutes. Second half, he gives you moral absolutes.
|2013 December 12 01:12:00 PM (6885)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 970. ||“There is no absolute morals, so yes, not everyone agrees.” |
so why are you moral and Stalin and Sadaam were not? Just opinion, right? It was legal for Stalin to murder and for Sadaam to rape and pillage.
SO why are you right?
|2013 December 12 12:12:00 PM (6883)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 968. ||“All cause suffering/pain/etc in some form or another” |
Whoa there my little pony. Dippy has…..on this blog……..claimed stealing is OK. So are you saying atheists do not agree these are immoral?
What is this etc? That could be anything
YOU once claimed culture determined morality. Have you now changed your opinion?
|2013 December 12 12:12:00 PM (6881)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 966. ||“start raping, murdering and stealing’ |
So why are they wrong Agnus?
Prediction; No answer and avoidance tactics
|2013 December 12 04:12:00 AM (6877)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 962. ||“perhaps my relative moral code is far superior to your non existent absolute one” |
ROTFL! I guess we will never know. You refuse to tell anyone why they are wrong just I predicted!
I understand, you are embarrassed.
If you decide you have something other than everything is moral, feel free to come again!
|2013 December 12 02:12:00 AM (6874)||[Science Guy] wwgha link 959. ||“forcing a woman to marry her rapist and slavery and assassination and such?” |
Good point! So why is this wrong? In order to judge a moral code, well, you gotta have one! Because everything is relative, right? So wouldn’t this be OK in atheism-land?
So, will he answer this time or once again change the subject?
Prediction: Another change of subject!
LOL!!!!!!!! I am clever and the prophet!
Oh, and he will come with more more alexisms to feel like he is a Big man! lol!!!!
|2013 December 11 08:12:00 PM (6872)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 957. ||“I?d like to say ?nice try at a dodge? ut sadly, it wasn?t even that.” |
Dodge? Dodge what? Because I don’t answer for some other group of people? Lol!!!!! I asked about your people. Tired of running? Lol!!!
“I already know that”
You do? Then you must be ashamed. You refuse to explain why you are moral but Stalin was not.
‘you will play coy”
Actually I am clever. You do not have a rational answer and you and I both know it. :)
|2013 December 11 06:12:00 PM (6870)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 955. ||“I?m not asking them, I?m asking YOU” |
Why ask me? I’m not one of them. Go to the source, Dippy. Hey I do know how an atheist on this blog determined what was moral. He used Judeo-Christian values. He told me.
So funny how you try to get the spotlight off you!!!
Now back to you. You are an atheists. Correct? Certainly you should know WHY you think certain actions are moral, yes? So?
|2013 December 11 05:12:00 PM (6866)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 951. ||“How do cultures who have never heard of your bible or your current god du jour know that it is wrong to kill, steal, or rape?” |
Ask them. How do atheists? Will he answer the time. …………prediction……….no!
|2013 December 11 03:12:00 PM (6864)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 949. ||“let?s say this is true.” |
I just did. It’s also dangerous and foolish
SEEK professional counseling. Get me that Zip Arch.
Yes I am everyone.
|2013 December 11 03:12:00 AM (6860)||[Science Guy] wwgha link 945. ||“i will comb the wwgha archives and gather all these suspected socks and consolidate all their comments into one giant list” |
This is precious. Feel free my very sick young friend. Let me know if I need to claim another moniker I may have missed. I have already admitted I am everyone so you will prove what I already acknowledged?
Great! Have fun. I hope it keeps you busy and away from the possibility of hurting yourself or others!
Oh, to have that much free-time!
|2013 December 11 03:12:00 AM (6859)||[Science Guy] wwgha link 944. ||“Well, why don?t you actually USE SCIENCE?” |
Hi Freddie-Mouse! Decide to stop running!!
Well, young feller, I used science. My conclusion: Each atheists does what he thinks is right. Therefore, everything can be moral. This means Hitler,Stalin and Mao were all moral because they did what they felt was moral.
Seem scientific enough for you Freddie-Mouse? Maybe you have another theory? Love to hear one! lol!!!!!
This is exciting! Lets see what Freedie-Mouse can produce!
|2013 December 11 12:12:00 AM (6855)||[Science Guy] wwgha link 940. ||Archie Bunker blurted “so if an atheist did something moral it?s because of chance?” |
If an atheist does something moral how do they know? Who tells them? What acknowledges they did good?
Can you follow the question now Archie? Capiche?
Again, get some help before the anger kills you or you kill someone else. But wait? That wouldn’t be immoral because you have a reason….right? lol!!!
Get me you Zip so I can put you in touch with a counselor.
|2013 December 10 08:12:00 PM (6848)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 933. ||“Willful ignorance is the worst kind of stupid.” |
I agree you can’t even tell me why something is immoral. Heaven forbid you are allowed to reproduce and the child has to figure out if murder, rape, lying and stealing are wrong or not. Hopefully an adult will step on to raise the young steed.
|2013 December 10 07:12:00 PM (6846)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 931. ||“isn?t really stealing” |
Didn’t you say stealing is ok?
Why is it wrong?
“so why not?”
Yes, why not do whatever? Why is anything wrong?
|2013 December 09 06:12:00 PM (6836)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 921. ||Arch, |
Just searched the comments. I see you were searching for tulips. That’s right, you can’t hide Arch. Your comments are archived my little pony!
|2013 December 09 06:12:00 PM (6835)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 920. ||“name calling? you in elementary school” |
ROTFL!!!!! Arch claiming others name-call. Now admittedly, I could never bring the sort of vile vitrole you unload, but I do think Archie is appropriate in this case.
I have already admitted I am everyone who has ever posted here. That’s not enough?!!!!!
Go ahead and bring the law suit as Alexis the tulip suggests. Great for more laughs! Lol!!!
And now Archie is a conspiracy theorist!! I am taking the time to attack WWGHA. Lol!!!!! OMG!!!
Sorry, too busy on the Obobbie care site! Lol!!!
|2013 December 09 03:12:00 AM (6828)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 913. ||lol!!!! Knew I could get a rise out of Archie Bunker! lol!!!!! Just too easy! |
Seek medical attention Arch…..
|2013 December 09 01:12:00 AM (6825)||[Science Guy] wwgha link 910. ||alex seems like a little boy that was raped and abused and angry at the entire world. alex, send me your zip and I will recommend a counselor who can help you and cure you of the the hate and anger you still experience. Your rants reflect very badly on you and no one will hardly even respond to you fella. Your atheist buddies don’t care enough about you to tell you the truth. Get help and soon for your own good. Seriously……. |
Agnus the tulip…..let me know when you have debunked even one argument for God then we can talk….I don’t expect that to be happening from someone who has a tulip blogging with him/her lol!!!!
|2013 December 07 06:12:00 PM (6785)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 870. ||“Might i ask, what DPK stands for” |
Dippy of course….lol!!!!!
Why can’t even one atheists tell us why murder, rape, stealing and lying are wrong. Imagine if the horror of them reproducing happens.
Son: Dippy was is stealing wrong?
Dippy: Its not, just don’t get caught little Dip. Now finish the “God Delusion”!
Well we did have one atheist who admitted to using the Bible as his code. Kudos to him.
|2013 December 06 06:12:00 PM (6773)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 858. ||“Nobody knows what my view of good is???” |
I know, you probably don’t or you are quite embarrassed by if which is why you will not share. Lol!!!
|2013 December 06 12:12:00 PM (6769)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 854. ||“Tell me, when did I say that I loved slavery??” |
Mess just one of their many many lies lies. For them, lying is OK because they had a good reason. What their view of good is, nobody really knows……….sad.
|2013 December 05 06:12:00 PM (6760)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 845. ||“What acts do I consider immoral?” |
Yes, I stand corrected. In atheist mythology nothing is immoral……..but just for this particular topic. A rehash of the Dawkins fairytale. Rape, murder, genocide they are all OK if you have a reason. No wonder atheist regimes are responsible for murdering more people than any other group in history.
Thanks for the reminder Dip!
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a mess
|2013 December 05 05:12:00 PM (6757)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 842. ||“? So, it seems at last you have had a revelation.” |
lol!!!!! I have. You can’t tell me why any act you consider immoral is indeed immoral. You desperately try to hide the fact with multiple post nobody will read.
There is the revelation! Lol!!!; how pathetic!
|2013 December 05 01:12:00 PM (6752)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 837. ||” YOU ALREADY KNOW WHY SLAVERY IS NOT A GOOD THING AT ALL.” |
Not me, why do you think it”s wrong. Yes we all know you would say no to being a slave. Thanks for the news flash! lol!!!
Its so funny you guys can never tell us why anything is wrong! So much for culture! Lol!!!!!!!
|2013 December 05 11:12:00 AM (6750)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 835. ||“Theists think it is good, so there is no point in trying to persuade them to stop it?” |
Why is it wrong Agnus? I am a man of science but equally a man of freedom. I now fear atheists will begin to enslave others…….even open up their gulags.
can I ask you to stop killing baby girls in China! Don’t your friends believe that is wrong?
|2013 December 05 04:12:00 AM (6747)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 832. ||“Now you say certain ?types? of slavery are ok.” |
I did? Wow, I am amazing!
Why is slavery wrong Dip? Which type of slavery are you speaking of? Take your time…..get your thoughts together so you don’t sound so spastic……lol!!!!!!!!!!!!
|2013 December 05 03:12:00 AM (6744)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 829. ||“Where the heck did this love of slavery come from?? |
I don’t know why atheists are so obsessed with slavery. They don’t even understand the various forms of slavery. They probably think all fruit is the sane too! Lol!!!
Geez! They can’t even tell us why slavery is wrong! But they what to judge God. Judge God based on what Dip Stick?
|2013 December 04 07:12:00 PM (6735)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 820. ||“so I can make a judgement as to whether is sounds like something a perfect, all knowing being would invent.” |
You can”t tell me why something is immoral but you CAN tell me what an omnipotent deity would do?
That is rich! The arrogance of Dippy. Nothing is immoral for you Dip so how can you make any judgments about another MUCH less a deity?
one of your funnier moments!
|2013 December 04 02:12:00 PM (6733)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 818. ||“he says owning another human is ok as long as it is necessary to provide for your family” |
OK why do you think it is wrong?
But I was talking to you but you have issues with focus. Lets try again.
Slaves? Which version of slavery would you be speaking? Someone who willfully sells themself as a slave? Nations who force children to work in sweatshops or where one tribe enslaves members of another tribal group?
So why are any of these versions wrong?
“And yes, some countries could do with our morals, and we could do with some of others morals.
Why? Who gets to decide. Why not free your tulip?
So all slavery is the same regardless of time period? Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whew! so young and uninformed!
|2013 December 04 11:12:00 AM (6729)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 814. ||“Congratulations, but i live in Australia, here we do not like slaves.” |
Thank you! So you are saying the world needs to follow the morally of Australia? You guys are moral and whoever departs is wrong? Would that be it Agnus? We all need to enslave a tulip? Lol!!
Slaves? Which version of slavery would you be speaking? Someone who willfully sells themself as a slave? Nations who force children to work in sweatshops or where one tribe enslaves members of another tribal group?
So why are any of these versions wrong fellsrs?
|2013 December 04 03:12:00 AM (6726)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 811. ||“Messenger, ?owning? someone as a slave is not morally justified at all.” |
According to who?
In parts of Africa and Latin America its Ok.
Who gets to make the call?
|2013 December 04 12:12:00 AM (6720)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 805. ||“Hor? what do you have to say about this?” |
Why won’t you tell us why nothing is immoral in your world?
|2013 December 03 09:12:00 PM (6703)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 788. ||Even Freddie-Mouse cannot defend the so-called atheist morality. They see the HUGE problem but have no answer. Contradiction after contradiction…….sigh….|
|2013 December 03 05:12:00 PM (6700)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 785. ||So sad. We had once atheist who cane to the thread and could tell us exactly why he believed lying, murder, etc was immoral. |
Dippy lies to us all by claiming he has given us the “why” ( lol, we all know better).
His “why” is this. He determines when it is OK to lie, murder, steal etc. We who might be in his path must trust that his personal morality doesn’t include murdering Christians caught with a Bible, stealing from you or lying on his taxes. Nothing is immoral so everyone’s personal opinion is equal even if they are Stalin.
That is how it works in Dippy’s world.
|2013 December 03 01:12:00 AM (6693)||[Science Guy] wwgha link 778. ||“I have told you why on many occasions” |
So we now know lying is OK to cover embarrassment?
Sure Dippy! Let me know when you can figure out “Why” then maybe we can move on.
|2013 December 02 11:12:00 PM (6690)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 775. ||Aw……… another epic fail by Dip. He says certain actions are wrong…….but refuses to tell me why? |
Without a why, how can anything be immoral Dippy? Quite a pickle you have there, huh?
|2013 December 02 08:12:00 PM (6684)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 769. ||“I answered your questions?” |
No, actually you did not. I clearly asked why which is the most important part…….now go borrow a ser and man up…..
Why is it so hard for you to give a reason why such actions are wrong?
|2013 December 02 07:12:00 PM (6682)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 767. ||“I would say that killing Christians simply for owning a bible would be immoral.” |
“No, killing Jews for being Jews is not ok.”
“Is preventing gays from being married”persecution”?”
Is preventing Freddie-Mouse from marrying his mom if they both agree persecution?
I haven’t seen you argue for that right??…..
|2013 December 02 07:12:00 PM (6680)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 765. ||Dip, |
Here is another scenario you can answer to get the ball rolling.
“For example, tell us, yes or no, is it moral to force a rape victim to marry her rapist”
|2013 December 02 06:12:00 PM (6679)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 764. ||“Show us where anyone here has said that ?all things are moral” |
Can make no other assumption. Asked by about several events in different cultures that none of you will declare is moral or immoral. Why?
Killing Christians for owning a Bible immoral?
Killing Jews for being Jews OK?
Persecuting gays in Russia OK?
Come on! You don’t have problems making moral judgments …..until now………lol!!!
So which is it? Are some things immoral or not? If so why?
|2013 December 02 04:12:00 PM (6677)||[Ths Sckence Guy] wwgha link 762. ||“The point is, science guy” |
Freddie -Mouse let me lay out what the point is. The point is you cannot differentiate between moral and immoral because in your world all things are moral…..yet……you make judgments about God and others being immoral (until you get challenged). Dippy and you do it regularly, right above this point as a point of reference.
Same thing Dawkins does in “The Dawkins Delusion”.
So which is it? Are some things immoral or not? If so why?
Yes this is A.hor/alpga/beta/charlie/etc to keep you focused…. Duh! lol!!!!!
|2013 December 02 02:12:00 AM (6673)||[Science Guy] wwgha link 758. ||“Use science, science guy. morality is whats acceptable in the day.” |
Freddie-Mouse! Welcome Back!
Lets examine your claim. What is acceptable today?
Death to Christians with a Bible in N Korea
Persecution of Gay in Russia. (Thats for Dippy)
Death to Christians caught gathering as a Church
How about the killing of babies 50% born?
Jihad according to numerous Muslim nations.
So all these acts are moral Freddie-Mouse because they are accepted today? If it is all acceptable why do atheist constantly whine?
To continue with Dippy’s claims, then how can God be immoral???
|2013 December 01 09:12:00 PM (6667)||[the hor] wwgha link 752. ||” I am only applying the code of absolute morality YOU claim is handed down by god.” |
Oh!, so you don’t believe the things God did were immoral?
Ok……some atheists rant about God in that way. Good to see you do not.
|2013 November 30 01:11:00 AM (6637)||[the hor] wwgha link 722. ||“Religion has bad apples but the good that comes from it imho far out weighs the bad.” |
Absolutely Marino. Guys like Alex and Dippy would have you believe all the worlds problems are by Christians. They ignore all the good they do throughout the world.
I apologize for Alex. He just attacks and curses at everyone here. I do pity the little fella.
|2013 November 28 06:11:00 PM (6604)||[the hor] wwgha link 689. ||“Um Alex, it is me DPK. Why else would I ” |
lol!!!!!!!! So classic! Alex he follows by leads….lol!!!! Love it!
” I said was that there are circumstances where it would be more moral to lie”
Will we get more attempts to get off topic?
( sigh!), prediction: yes….
|2013 November 28 01:11:00 PM (6599)||[the hor] wwgha link 684. ||“You never stated what level of lying.” |
Oh, so morality is not laws it is now based upon whatever the individual believes? Why does your definition keep changing?
So when N Korea kills Christians with a Bible, they believe they are doing what is best for society. So according to you that is OK? They did have a good reason.
When Stalin killed, he only killed to insure hs kept power. HE felt it was vital he kept power to keep his very young nation, the USSR together. MUST of been OK, because had a what he felt was a good reason.
So is that how in works now? Any act is OK if you have a “good” reason.
|2013 November 28 02:11:00 AM (6596)||[the hor] wwgha link 681. ||“Lying is immoral” |
Funny, Dippy says it is OK.
Then you come back with…..
“But other inputs also dictate it”
Suppose this “Area, race, religion, current status of country” dictates lying, killing woman for not covering their head or killing someone with a Bible is moral? So for you that would be moral huh?
You just help support that anything is moral. Getting deeper and deeper Agnus.
|2013 November 27 07:11:00 PM (6592)||[the hor] wwgha link 677. ||“no more than arrogant jerks who need to be taken down a notch.” |
They are more than that, they are clueless. They hate the so-called uncivilized people.
But take it a step further. A 16 yr old lies to a parent. For an atheist, its not immoral. They broke no laws in a civilized nation.
To be fair, only Agnes and Dippy believe such nonsense.
|2013 November 27 05:11:00 PM (6586)||[the hor] wwgha link 671. ||Chorizo, |
As you can see, Agnus claim laws determine our morals. Not all laws, just laws from civilized countries (lol!. Dippy just claims whatever he thinks is moral then that’s is what we should all do. Both views are very arrogant. Lol!!
|2013 November 27 12:11:00 PM (6581)||[the hor] wwgha link 666. ||“, depending on the country, laws may be different, death penalty for example” |
Of Of course laws are different place to place. So how do we know which laws are from the civilized and which laws are from the uncivilized? You first stated laws dictate what is moral but now we have this extra condition?????
|2013 November 26 10:11:00 PM (6576)||[the hor] wwgha link 661. ||“Tell us Ass, modern compared to what? Japan, South Korea, Canada?” |
Well, yes, they are a very high tech nation and are considered a world power as compared to Uganda.
But alas! Bow quickly you fulfill my prediction! A change of subject,……a no answer in order to NOT tell us what makes them uncivilized and why. Nukes? the laws of a nation with nukes are immoral? But why are nukes immoral?
Ah yes, Dippy is in a pickle and he desperately is looking for an escape. Time to call the ethicist…..lol?
|2013 November 26 08:11:00 PM (6574)||[the hor] wwgha link 659. ||“If you are actually talking about North Korea, I don?t think that qualifies as a ?modern, civilized” |
Alright now! We are getting somewhere. We can’t get Dippy answer a question he has declared N Korea ( my bad on the typo)is not modern and civilized. Having been there I can attest it is quite modern. They are controlled by atheists too!
But dippy claims they are not civilized? Dippy, what guidelines do we use to declare a nation is or is not civilized? The atheists running the nation believe they are very civilized?
Prediction: still no answer, no post number and attempts to change subject.
|2013 November 26 06:11:00 PM (6572)||[the hor] wwgha link 657. ||“hor, I answered you already.” |
Translation: I dodged your question which is why I can’t provide a post number.
Agnus has told us laws determine what is moral. IF this is true then politicians, dictators and tyrants THEN determine what is moral. Yes? That means laws in Russia that persecute gays are moral. Laws in S Korea that kill Christians for having a Bible are OK. And the many Middle East countries who will kill atheists, women and Christians, well, they must be moral too.
There ya go, the atheist morality on display. Nothing is immoral, it is all just relative! Lol!!!
|2013 November 26 12:11:00 PM (6570)||[the hor] wwgha link 655. ||” ONE modern civilized country that states murder and rape is legal” |
Oh!!!!!, so only certain laws in certain countries are moral. So which ones? And what criteria will you be using?
In the US it is legal to kill a baby that survives abortion. Is that moral? Are they uncivilized?
|2013 November 26 01:11:00 AM (6565)||[the hor] wwgha link 650. ||Lol!!!! Its so cute when atheists to play theologian! Theses who claim no God know so much Bible! |
Cute! For kicks and giggles lets pretend there is no God.
All morals all relative so nothing is immoral? Hmmm? So who decides?
Agnus and Alexi claimed laws. That means they think killing woman, Christians, Jews is OK! How horrible! What say you Dip?
|2013 November 25 11:11:00 PM (6562)||[the hor] wwgha link 647. ||“The book of genesis never denied the earth being a sphere, as you said it did.” |
Flat actually started with scientist and science was funded by the church. (So much for the church being against science lol!!)
Isaiah is quite clear that the earth is round. The Bible is quite clear the universe has a beginning even though science claimed it did not until the last 100 years of so……lol!!!
Dippy did not answer my question again. Contact Rich Dawkins, he might bail you out….lol!!!
|2013 November 25 02:11:00 AM (6526)||[the hor] wwgha link 611. ||I luv Abbys lady-like use of the English language. What is it with atheist and their obsessive use of vulgar language? Lack of a vocabulary? Lack of peace? Hatred of others not like them?|
|2013 November 23 11:11:00 PM (6503)||[the hor] wwgha link 588. ||All morals all relative so nothing is immoral? Hmmm? So who decides? |
The question still haunts you Dippy? This question goes backs to many other other threads where you kept dodging. Why do you keep dodging Dip?
:), I know……lol!!
|2013 November 23 03:11:00 PM (6499)||[the hor] wwgha link 584. ||Dippy must have missed my previous post. Hey mousey, you feel free to answer this too! Glad you are out of hiding! |
All morals all relative so nothing is immoral? Hmmm? So who decides?
The question still haunts you Dippy? :)
|2013 November 23 12:11:00 AM (6487)||[the hor] wwgha link 572. ||“See how that works Hor.” |
YES, yes I so. You make up the rules, so doe we all call you when we must make a tough decision?
Hey, in S Korea, they do kill Christians with Bibles. Its against the law. is that OK or not? Why?
chirp chirp chirp……lol!!
Bet he runs again….. getting the popcorn…
|2013 November 22 09:11:00 PM (6471)||[the hor] wwgha link 556. ||“Why is that? I answered yours. Isn?t playing fairly part of your absolute moral code.” |
Absolutely! You deserve an answer as credible and well thought out as you offered. You offered “It depends” to your son and that is scary.
Daddy do I kill the Christian who owns a Bible.
Depends son. Can to see it?
so here it goes.
It does not depend.
See, want to be equally engaging. Please don’t let your child murder. It really should not depend.
|2013 November 22 07:11:00 PM (6468)||[the hor] wwgha link 553. ||“It depends.” |
There you go.
1. Dad should I steal?
lol!!! Yes, great advice there Dippy.
The fact you think Dippy proved anything with his little scenario makes me doubt your truthfulness.
Did Dippy prove no absolute moral code exist? Absolutely (lol) not! Regardless of the actions, that in no way impacts absolutes.
When Nazis come to my door, I will let you know my actions. Lol!!!
Secondly I am not the hor. They insist I am about 8 different posters, so I play along.
And yes, I come here to laugh Bobby. Its a blog my friend, not real life, its funny and you should enjoy. I gave up being serious LONG ago. But hey, you wanna take those questions seriously, knock yourself out and let Dippy rip you too! Lol!!
|2013 November 22 06:11:00 PM (6464)||[the hor] wwgha link 549. ||PS”. I have gotten the popcorn before. DIppy will not answer but will just criticize Bible/God/Christians….etc. Anyone with solid morals who helps others around the world… |
|2013 November 22 06:11:00 PM (6463)||[the hor] wwgha link 548. ||“You don?t need a bible to know it is wrong to steal.” |
Then how do we know? You and your atheist buddies have admitted it is OK to steal sometimes.
Watch this everyone! This will be good! I’ll get the popcorn!
|2013 November 21 11:11:00 PM (6452)||[the hor] wwgha link 537. ||How fat is the fat man? |
Is he Stalin?
How do we know pushing the fat man will gain desired results?
Is he a Nazi or African warlord?
Hey! Can we ask his preference?
can we call Richard Dawkins?
Suppose he is too fat to push?
My fellow readers I implore you. Let us all request Dippy answer these relevant questions!
|2013 November 21 05:11:00 PM (6445)||[the hor] wwgha link 530. ||“The point that terrifies you is that there are time when it is wrong to lie and times when it is better to lie” |
It is terrifying? Oh no! Help me dippy! Tell me when I should lie and when I shouldn’t. I need you great wisdom. Could you point me to your code that I can follow?
I no longer want to be terrified, especially if these African warlords. Lol!!
|2013 November 21 04:11:00 PM (6443)||[the hor] wwgha link 528. ||“No fair changing the rules to avoid making a determination” |
No fair? Lol!!!!! Dippy makes up stupid scenarios involving fat men and Nazis and all of us MUST play by his rules…..AND get this Mess, He and HE alone gets to determine if what you would do is moral.
Now, what is his moral code he bases his conclusions on? His opinion of course. The ultimate in arrogance.
|2013 November 21 02:11:00 AM (6423)||[the hor] wwgha link 508. ||“What does your absolute moral code tell you you should do? Don?t tell us what you” |
I’d radio the one man and pull the switch, but wait!
Is it a fat man?
Is the 100 atheists or theists or Hindus?
why are 100 people on the tack?
Do the 100 want to die?
“It is simply because god is completely imaginary. ”
sigh! Prove it……the fact you must argue SO MUCH tells us all you don’t believe your own tripe fat man…..lol!!!!!
|2013 November 20 07:11:00 PM (6405)||[the hor] wwgha link 490. ||“You are right in rejecting these people, they are evil at their very core. Self absorbed and arrogant beyond all comprehension.” |
Now we have dippy judging others, and one who is dead!!!!! But they just recycle the same tired lines. Lol!!!
Yes,I remember the celebration of atheist when Falwell died. Such a sweet, loving, wonderful group of kettles…….or are they pots?
|2013 November 20 05:11:00 PM (6403)||[the hor] wwgha link 488. ||“Cassiopia? I was more Christian than you ever could be !!!! Not only in how I treated others but I was also faithful to God in many things you most likely would never ever be !” |
Abby you and dippy state not to judge under any circumstances. You just judged someone you don’t even know quite harshly.
You also seem to see yourself as “Superior” to Cass who you don’t even know.
What does “more Christian” even me? Aren’t Christians all sinners saved by grace through faith?
Abby your are kettle.
|2013 November 19 06:11:00 PM (6383)||[the hor] wwgha link 468. ||“How do we decide which of you has the real truth and which of you are simply deluded?” |
Great question! Dippy, how do we know if you or Taoist atheist are telling us the real truth? Are you deluded or the Taoist? Taoist claim their version of atheism is correct……
A real Christian? Simple, you go to the teachings of CHRIST to see if they follow what CHRIST teaches. Too logical for you? Lol!!!!
You see the parallel there Mensa? CHRIST and CHRISTIAN…….lol!!!
|2013 November 18 09:11:00 PM (6375)||[the hor] wwgha link 460. ||“Now Hor is resorting to supporting one with mythical character by asserting the beliefs of another mythical character.” |
This is hilarious! Just resorted to the very fallacy he incorrectly attempted to call on another. That is priceless!
Thanks DIP. Sorry, not mocking but that is quite funny! :)
|2013 November 18 09:11:00 PM (937)||[the hor] wwgha link 165. ||“Can?t be done” |
True, its just another excuse so you can maintain your faith without having to admit it to yourself.
Hey, this is easier. Produce empirical evidence that macro evolution has taken place. That’s just a step in the SM. Lets see what you have Freddie-Mouse. I’m more than willing to believe.
what is a Jayzus? And Freddie-Mouse and I have never seen anyone post as the hor but I’m willing to play along to get you to stay on track.
I have seen Freddie post as Anonymouse….lol!!
|2013 November 18 01:11:00 AM (935)||[the hor] wwgha link 163. ||“How can we discuss anything beyond ?gravity” |
I have a great idea. Using the SM, prove that macro evolution is true.
Oh, and Freddie – Mouse is you you sock puppet! Duh!
|2013 November 18 01:11:00 AM (6373)||[the hor] wwgha link 458. ||Cass |
You can’t reason with DPK known as Dippy. They believe anyone who states they are a Christian is one regardless of what they believe. I believe the Bible states Satan believes in God too. Does that make Satan a Christian?
lol!!!!! Careful, that is no true Scotsman! Lol!!!!
|2013 November 15 09:11:00 PM (926)||[the hor] wwgha link 154. ||“scientist who accepts the existence of a god does NOT so easily put a god into the gaps of scientific knowledge.” |
ROTFL!! The only time I hear the god of gaps is from college kids. Nobody uses God of gaps silly!
“They just BELIEVE a god exists, despite there being no actual proof.”
Strike two! They do have proof, as much as you have for your abiogenesis gap theory! Lol!! Still have some books I could offer.
” they have no problem accepting evolution and abiogenesis”
If one is a theist, the theories become possible, but not for an atheist. Silly!
Oh, I no longer look for evidence of God. Settled that years ago. :)
Have a nice w/e buddy!
|2013 November 15 06:11:00 PM (923)||[the hor] wwgha link 151. ||” scientists practice science and keep a god on the back burner; not requiring ANY proof of the god ? they just BELIEVE.” |
Ummmmm, nope! They practice science realizing God is the creator and designer. Why is that so hard to follow freddie-mouse? I got some great books I can suggest to help educate you freddie-mouse. Faith and reason go hand in hand.
A back burner? Look l!!!!!!! Does the back burner design and create all that scientist study?
|2013 November 15 01:11:00 PM (918)||[the hor] wwgha link 146. ||“Anyway, the god a scientist subscribes to differs from your conceptualization” |
Well, yeah, in some cases. We have Jews, Christians, theists, etc…….duh! They all believe in a creator/ designer and they they have been some of the greatest scientist. Not according to our atheist tulip! Lol!!!!
“the scientific methods employed by scientists are different than your ideas”
Nope, not at all. That’s not open for redefining. You see freddie-mouse, observing a fossil is NOT observing macro evolution, that my boy is an assumption.
” evolution is true then why don?t Harleys/Corvettes wash up on our beaches”
I know! Time and Chance is incredible, right! Everything to make it happen exists in nature, right? I would think an atheist would be onboard! Lol!!!
|2013 November 14 08:11:00 PM (915)||[hor] wwgha link 143. ||“don?t think Francis Collins is wagering his god on an abiogenesis from god argument like you are.” |
um, I never did. However I have read a couple of his books and he sees God as the designer of all creation.
Do u mind if I ask if you are a moron? Just asking mind u. The vast majority of scientist throughout time have been theists. What makes you think they cannot practice science while acknowledging a designer, silly?
|2013 November 14 08:11:00 PM (914)||[hor] wwgha link 142. ||“Look up ?Trifid Nebula? and others” |
No need to, do you have a point? What are “others”?
|2013 November 14 12:11:00 PM (910)||[hor/horatio/A] wwgha link 138. ||“He?s taken a rational position on abiogenesis and somehow keeps his faith. Figure it out for yourself. |
I’m sure he has, he believes intelligence was involved, not a magic soup monster that created itself from the soup! lol!!!
Young feller “a”, I have figured it out. Intelligence to create complex high information systems is a must until someone can prove otherwise. Taking an atheist position when it was believed a cell was just a black box was understandable, but today it is just silliness. Do like Antony Flew….follow the evidence to where it leads. Those with axes to grind are to cowardly to follow it.
Even our little tulip now admits some things are impossible! lol!!!
BTW, could you stick with one name. I hate changing my moniker every post. lol!!
|2013 November 14 01:11:00 AM (906)||[hor] wwgha link 134. ||“You, on the other hand, simply jump to saying goddidit!!!!” |
lol!!!!! Where? Oh!, you mean because I believe intelligence is required to develop complex high information systems? Yeah, I make those leaps. But where do I claim “goddit” and don’ investigate mouse?????
You believe the fairytale I posted above! Although it violates logic and common sense. So tell me, what did you investigate to come up with the soup man theory?
|2013 November 13 12:11:00 AM (897)||[hor] wwgha link 125. ||“Not hatred. I can?t find ANY reason to believe in an Ark, ” |
What does God have to do with an ark? Focus is another challenge for you. Lol!!!
“The god theories are just ideas supported by bibles, korans, fantasies”
Prove it. Yet scientist are writings books on the subject. Let me guess!!! They are not REAL scientist. Lol!!!
“A bias for honesty and truth is ugly?”
No not at all. Prove you have the truth then we will concede honesty. Go!
Let me add, though it is s waste. I am not the hor. Your fetish is disturbing. Make up you mind…..hor or “a”? Sigh! Atheist have this twisted view that only a few are theists. Lol!!
?I don?t understand, I?ll investigate”
Approach works for me as well from the age of 10. Has yet to fail me in all this time.
Funny, then again I have been on the atheist hate wagon. Such a sad bunch.
|2013 November 12 06:11:00 PM (895)||[hor] wwgha link 123. ||” clockwork theory has been debunked many times over” |
Prove it! Prove fine tuning has been debunked. I bet your tulip even knows better than that.
“which of these theories points to your god? As opposed some”
Can u stick with one name. I keep having to change my moniker.
None in particular but the question is moot. You have been shown to believe unproven theories but not any ToGs out of pure hatred. And, alas, you have been proven to have zero understanding of the nature of evidence. In other words, you have not shown you are qualified due to a deep ugly bias! Lol!!!
|2013 November 08 10:11:00 PM (872)||[A] wwgha link 100. ||Mousey is really flustered now, he/she is resorting to the same old and lame personal attacks. Such a child……lol!!|
|2013 November 08 09:11:00 PM (871)||[A] wwgha link 99. ||“There is no proof of god. No theory. No hypothesis. Nothing to use to find the ?right? god other than personal belief.” |
Correction……. no proof of God YOU accept. However, if that is true…….why do you keep asking for evidence? LOL!!!!!!!!!!! You are such a “mess” mousey …….and you claim Messenger is a mess. No proof, theory or hypothesis for Socrates either…..well…he must have never existed!
However, Bernard Haisch has a book called “The God theory” and there are many others. But being a mess, you wouldn’t have a clue.
Keep the faith young fella.
|2013 November 08 12:11:00 AM (859)||[A] wwgha link 87. ||“It is funny though that we have posted evidence” |
Lol!!!! It is funny. Poor mixed up fluttershy. You have posted nothing of substance to date. Typically, your posts are just ignored. Don’t worry, you’ll grow up one day.
Oh, I posted evidence right above :).
|2013 November 07 11:11:00 PM (857)||[A] wwgha link 85. ||” possibility of evolution, is in check with the events that were recorded in the bible.” |
Possibility? What happen to the FACT” claim? Is this really Obama?
Constantly moving goal posts.
First its fact
Possibility? Yeah so is a new Corvette washing up on the beach. Lol!!!!!!!
|2013 November 07 06:11:00 PM (853)||[A] wwgha link 81. ||Anony the mouse sadly asks” Point me to the direction where this evidence indicates the existence of some god(” |
I Again brilliantly retort: Absolutely, as soon as someone demonstrates how it supports macroevolution. Either of you will be acceptable. Still have the whole issue of the mouse showing she/ he has the capability to discern the nature evidence.
Prediction: He/she will not demonstrate the ability to discern evidence.
|2013 November 07 02:11:00 PM (850)||[A] wwgha link 78. ||Sure guys, as soon as someone demonstrates how it supports macroevolution. Either of you will be acceptable.|
|2013 November 07 12:11:00 PM (848)||[A] wwgha link 76. ||“Evidence for evolution we have comparative anatomy, DNA, fossils, genetic signatures, and so much more.” |
The much more better be good because naming fields of study does not your case make.
“For god, what have you got?”
we have comparative anatomy, DNA, fossils, genetic signatures, and so much more.”
|2013 November 07 02:11:00 AM (844)||[A] wwgha link 72. ||“Socrates existed or not is part of a long list of ?don?t give a fuck about them? for me” |
But a God that supposedly doesn’t exist IS an obsession for you?
You cannot prove Socrates exist but yet I am sure you do believe. Lol!!
“Something backed up with facts and evidence. Still waiting.”
Yes we are. You have yet to show you understand the scientific method OR the nature of evidence. Therefore you are not qualified to evaluate any evidence.
|2013 November 06 07:11:00 PM (837)||[A] wwgha link 65. ||ArrogantAtheist, |
You mean the link to Talk origin?s 29+ evidences you posted as Agnus & Alexis? Lol!!!!
Seen it read it bought the T-shirt. Which of theses “evidences” meets the scientific method?
Yeah! I know your perspective on truth Browny!
|2013 November 06 04:11:00 PM (834)||[A] wwgha link 62. ||“A, explaining evolution with the scientific method with detail would take literally a day or two of constant writing and research.” |
Strange……..Mousey and Freddie stated they DID prove it here with a fossil, YOU agreed and now you admit you did not?
Are you guys truthful about anything? Just admit, you believe on faith, not facts, and we will not have to consider you to be Obomanizing the truth.
Then we will know where the bar needs to be set for proof of God. We will also know how you view the nature of truth.
Right now the bar for proof is set really really low in order for you to believe……
|2013 November 06 01:11:00 AM (2111)||[A] wwgha link 1141. ||“So there can be no different interpretations, care to explain?” |
Do you care to explain? Why can’t there be multiple interpretations? There are correct ones and there are wrong ones.
Steve Wells is wrong. Simple enough and his hatred and ideology prove it! lol!!
|2013 November 06 12:11:00 AM (830)||[A] wwgha link 58. ||Aw, the indignant atheist could not answer the question simple as it seems.. |
All Browny can do is tell me to visit a link.
Not one atheist can even make an attempt with the scientific method.
However, I will not stomp my feet and throw out expletives. It is truly expected..
|2013 November 05 12:11:00 PM (824)||[A] wwgha link 52. ||AA, |
I agree. Maybe you can answer the question for me? Using the scientific method, support that macro evolution is indeed fact.
Why? So we can determine the nature of evidence atheists will accept for God.
I have been trying to be this answered for months so I feel your frustration.
Thanks in advance.
|2013 November 05 02:11:00 AM (821)||[A] wwgha link 49. ||Mousey!, |
Question for you Mousey: Have they come up with a theory for a Socrates? Is the theory falsifiable? Can you point me to the theory? The hypothesis? Some facts and evidence?
LOL!!! What a dunce
Dippy thinks you are me and a whole host of other posters. Its a diversion, pay no attention.
Notice how he plays ignorant with macroevolution? He and mousey CLAIM, without facts, that a fish fossil with a few tetrapod characteristics is proof that macroevolution has taken place. So we ask, could it just be a coincidence? Maybe it is not proof? Well, no it is NOT proof. lol!!!!!
The point? They have a different level of proof for things they don’t WANT to believe than they do for their own dogma. It is impossible to get them to provide the nature of proof for a level playing field.
No surprise. lol!!!!!
|2013 November 05 02:11:00 AM (2109)||[A] wwgha link 1139. ||Just go to berenddeboer^net to see Steve Wells effort destroyed by Berend de Boer. Anything else Agnus and/or Alexi? |
LOL!!! They actually though that was a legitimate argument. A guy, who hates the Bible, doesn?t understand the Bible then slams the Bible. That?s never been done. Oh yes, no bias there?..lol.!!!!!
|2013 November 04 06:11:00 PM (816)||[A] wwgha link 44. ||Ben, |
This is great! Maybe we can get an answer out of an atheist.
DPK, could it be the fish that you guys claim is transitional because is has tetrapod features was just a coincidence? This is suppose to be solid proof of macroevolution. You know, sort of like how you claim answered prayer is coincidence? Why or Why not? Don’t be a coward, actually answer the question.
|2013 November 02 02:11:00 AM (797)||[A] wwgha link 25. ||“When Atheist icon Antony Flew wrote ?There Is a God? based on the requirement of a source for the apparent intelligence contained in DNA, the idea was attacked as illegitimate because Flew was to be declared senile for suggesting it” |
40, good to see you back posting. I remember how the blood thirsty atheist turned on their great leader after he followed the evidence where it led, to Theism.
Atheists are narrow minded and not open to ideas, perspectives or interpretations which contradict their worldview. Any atheist who has left the clan has found this truth.
Have a great week
|2013 November 01 07:11:00 PM (2105)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll.Sock Buster] wwgha link 1135. ||“Equally, prove that god does what he does, otherwise he is dismissed.” |
Alexis and his sidekick Agnus actually believes they can dismiss God. Right! They can’t even dismiss God which is why they are here constantly arguing about God.
Nope, they have a God obsession and its not going to leave them.
Oh, and equally you can drop the Hitler and Christianity stupidity. He was a politician and for every quote you provide that he was a Christian I can provide one that he was not.
He killed off the most prominent Christian in Germany, Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Nuff said
|2013 October 29 06:10:00 PM (2085)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll.Sock Buster] wwgha link 1115. ||Rostam, |
Don’t you realize how brillant and incredible men are? I mean look at the world! Men never war. We flew to the moon a few times. Atheists write books and solve all the Earth’s problems. Couldn’t get any better than that. Oh, and we have guys who create tulips as their best friends!
|2013 October 25 09:10:00 PM (2071)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll.Sock Buster] wwgha link 1101. ||“Physiology? Comparative anatomy? DNA? Genetic markers? Fossils? Do you need more?” |
Well…….yes, I need more than a Laverne and Shirley routine, I need evidence using the SM Anony Fraud. I ask how DNA was first created and his answer is DNA….lol!!!!
Lol!!!!!! So the consensus is we are here therefore Cambells chicken noodle soup MUST of created the first cell, the first DNA code?
Lol!!!! Sorry…….evolutiondiddit won’t get it here fellas. I am a man of science.
|2013 October 25 08:10:00 PM (2068)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll.Sock Buster] wwgha link 1098. ||“I’m totally not a sock puppet?” |
Nice try AnonyFraud. Lol!!!
|2013 October 25 08:10:00 PM (2067)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll.Sock Buster] wwgha link 1097. ||“Well we?ve gone through evolution and abiogenesis as far as science knows it” |
Which is what? Where did DNA come from? How did aminos survive and the proteins? How did the first cell from? Where did those chemicals cone from? Why is DNA so complex and dense in its coding when there was no designer? WHY do biology textbooks state “Creation looks designed but we must remember it was not”.
Evolution? Using the SM, provide proof of one species becoming another.
I do thank you for giving a very amateurish view of biology but that was never the question. You sound like a politician avoiding the questions. Your problem not mine.
|2013 October 24 05:10:00 PM (2062)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll.Sock Buster] wwgha link 1092. ||Sure Freddie. No explanation accepted by me and none of your lame excuses will be accepted. No that I mind being linked to 40YA. |
Also, I also contend puppeting ia based on style and content rather than more definitive evidence. Og course, now I have that! DPK doesn’t help your case.
“we know amino acids must have formed and joined together to create proteins or we wouldn?t be here discussing it,”
Uh, huh, yeah, and this proves the soup did this how? How does soup know how arrange aminos, build chains to form proteins an thus an entire cell? Hmmm? How anonyfraud?
|2013 October 23 05:10:00 PM (2058)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll.Sock Buster] wwgha link 1088. ||“The only person on here caught committing sock-puppetry is you A. |
Oh and posting as anonymous to follow up Frederick is not dishonest? Lol!!!! Please, you fraud.
‘And where?s your evidence that the prebiotic pools were pure enough ? with a high enough H2O content ? to retard the production of amino acids? Where?s your evidence for this magic ?coded?
I dunno anonyfraud, where is the evidence? Where is evidence for any of your claims? Where is evidence aminos formed, these aminos became proteins, they found DNA/RNA and empty cells laying in the soup and took up residence? Were oh where anonyfraud?
|2013 October 22 08:10:00 PM (2053)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 1083. ||“now you?re falsely equivocating the wholly theoretical (talking donkeys) with something that has actual evidence in it?s favour (sic)” |
No, I equivocated two theories that have zero proof but many assumptions. When you find a jaw bone and a portion of skull and draw an entire creature from the findings, that is art not science.
“Nick Matzke wrote a long article called ?Icons Of Obfuscation?
I had to google Nick. So why is grad student Nick much more informed than Wells? Please share what was so intriguing……Would you be claiming Wells didn’t listen in all his biology classes at UC Berkley? lol!!!!!!!! Just so you can be correct for once, Wells is an ID proponent not a creationist. Yes, I’m sure he gets smeared regularly. He dares to take on the state dogma.
“Suffice it to say that the evidence shows that free oxygen was no more than a trace element on prebiotic earth”
Suffice to say you claiming it does not make it true. Prove it. Evidence actually shows the atmosphere had just over 20% O2.
“And yet it was I pointing out that you?d ignored the oxygen in water”
LOL!!!! Yes, I ignored the oxygen in water…….because it is NOT free oxygen. Wow, do you flip burgers for a living?
“The only scientific theory I?ve really talked about i
|2013 October 21 06:10:00 PM (2045)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 1075. ||“Heheh obviously that was me.” |
Duh! Who else runs around with a Tulip on the blog. LOL!!!
|2013 October 21 06:10:00 PM (2044)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 1074. ||” So of course the answer is no. No doubt you?ll now lie about my answer.” |
NO, you refuse to wade through the evidence. Why would I need to lie? I don’t participate in lies.
“Not opinion, fact. They have necks, shoulders and arms ? just like tetrapods. You lying about it doesn?t change those facts.
So do tertrapods, alligators and humans. Tetrapods already existed. Dismissed……
“It is also, however, evidence that supports the idea that life evolved from non-life. It certainly suggests that it is possible.”
Actually it suggests that it is impossible. Wrong amino acids, left and right aminos which will not contribute to life, Miller removed the aminos so they would not be destroyed. Even if the correct aminos were created and survived, No information for the aminos to follow to become a protein. A very dubious task. Dismissed…..
“The experiment proved we can get organic compounds from inorganic precursors in conditions similar to that of ancient earth.”
We don’t know the conditions of ancient earth. Miller left out oxygen, hmmm wonder why? See above for the rest of the dismissal. Dismissed!
“Have you ever met a talking donkey?”
I don’t know. Couldn’t one evolve if life can evolve from soup? Any of you guys on here donkeys?
“I simply underline that the Miller-Urey experiments were carried out
|2013 October 21 06:10:00 PM (2043)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 1073. ||“I hope that they recognise that his claims are completely evidence free” |
Hmmmm? So what claim would that be? I’ll go ahead and add the evidence so we can be up to date.
Now your turn.
1. Provide proof like sprang from the primordial oooze. Of course, utilize the SM.
2. Provide evidence and support with the SM that macroevolution has taken place and continues to take place. We will need evidence of each step bring us to the new species.
I wanted to restate the questions so our audience can see the questions you claim to have answered using the SM. However, in reality you have only offered opinion and assumptions.
|2013 October 18 05:10:00 PM (2036)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 1066. ||“Are you actually about to present a theory that those books form the evidence for?” |
No, I will present a link to a volume of books. You will wade, right?
“I still call bullshit.”
Naturally, you are use to drones who believe everything they are told. Critical thinkers are foreign to you.
“I?ve certainly presented the facts that support my claims and you?ve so far singularly failed to show any of them to be false.”
You have presented opinions. You know, the fish looks like it has characteristics of another species! lol! Not proof, opinion. Try again.
“Because it?s certainly not according to the scientists who?ve studied the work.”
OK, exactly what did it prove? Lets see what you can google up and present.
“I didn?t. I said it ?suggested? that that was what happened.”
Suggested? Another unproven, unsubstantiated opinion that does live up to the SM. You whole case is a fraud. The facts suggest nothing, it is opinion of what you want it to say.
“The Milley-Urey experiment (which followed the SM) has already proven that a certain set of conditions is favourable to forming organic compounds from inorganic precursors.”
Hmmm, you seem to be acknowledging your other claims did not follow SM. Very good!!
And this MU experiment confirms what? Sorry, this suggests what?
|2013 October 18 11:10:00 AM (2034)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 1064. ||“You refused to ?wade through it? |
OK, then I will link you to a volume of Systematic Theology books for God! How about that. You will read through them right? lol!!!!
“The fish is a transitional form, it?s the evidence for evolution found using the SM”
Its a fish proven by using the SM. No more. Prove it wrong
“Evolution (the process) is a fact. The evidence for it has been provided.”
Great, provide the real evidence, not speculation.
“You?re not asking others to believe anything because you?re too much of a coward to say, in any detail, what you believe happened.”
I don’t push my faith on others like you. lol! Besides, you have the facts, right?
“because you?ve failed to give a single coherent objection to anything”
You failed to make your case using the SM. Destroyed your case again.
“I have the evidence that suggests life did indeed come from inorganic compounds (the Miller-Urey experiments”
OMG!! HAHAHAHAHAHA, still using this failed experiment from the 50s! This proved it “DID”? OK, using the SM method prove it.
|2013 October 14 08:10:00 PM (2019)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 1049. ||“You?ve yet to define what a ?high information system? is” |
Lol!! Oh my gosh, are you really so inept? Try google, like you did for DNA replicating from RNA! Lol!!! Too funny! Or amino acids suddenly immune to UV, O2 and contaminates! Lol!! Wow! Some really finny stuff.
Hey have you consider aliens? There is a possibility also explored!
I commend your faith. I just don’t have that much. Your priests have spoken! Follow the light!
|2013 October 08 11:10:00 AM (1978)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 1008. ||‘they delusionally believe that the existence of one hoax must mean that all the fossils are hoaxes.” |
Sort of like atheists who think because some gods are not real means there is none real?
No little guys, you provide the proof we will believe. Like how Fred throws in anther village in Java in order to see intelligent? lol!!!
Java, Pilt, Nebraska, Lucy and your fish all have NOT proven macroevolution is true, unless……….this is all you require for evidence for God?
Poor Freedie does even know when his chain is be yanked. lol!! sigh!
|2013 October 07 07:10:00 PM (1970)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 1000. ||“Not that you?ve managed to give a single valid objection to any of the evidence presented so far anyway” |
Sure I did, you failed to prove it using the SM. Simple, use it and prove the “lob” is a future claw, foot, hand or whatever you think it is morphing into. Lol!!!!!!!! Your swamp man, maybe?
|2013 October 07 07:10:00 PM (1969)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 999. ||“pointing out that it is these chemical reactions that determine the DNA sequence you believe is too complex to come from anything natural” |
I know, I’m just logical like that. Although transistors are the source of BCD that computers use, I still believe intelligence actually uses said transistors to perform the logical sequences. The transistors did not by chance perform the logical needed sequences.
Lol!! Only someone delusional would believe that.
|2013 October 07 01:10:00 PM (1965)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 995. ||” species of fish is thought to have exhibited tetrapod characteristics before Tiktaalik did, but, yes, thank you for noting that there are other transitional forms besides Tiktaalik” |
Correction: there are no transitionals until you can prove it. A similarity does not a transitional make.
|2013 October 07 01:10:00 PM (1964)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 994. ||“you don?t think chemical reactions contain complex information code but the nucleic acid sequence of DNA (denoted by the 4 letters GACT) is so complex it couldn?t possibly be natural?” |
ROTFL!!!, well…..yes……yes I do. But lets back track, shall we, to the original question, hmmm? How did DNA, through natural processes, develop a code similar in complexity to the Widows 8 OS from the ooze/mud/ muck?
“Shame you?re utterly unable to point out any of thee ?huge holes?”
Never observed on macro level?
Then why bother? Put do PLEASE, you and Agnus keep posting, this is too good. I do care….I do.
Lol!!! Now the claim is TOE is fact. Could you atheist get together and figure out if it is fact or not? You can’t even agree on THAT point! Lol!!!!!
|2013 October 06 06:10:00 PM (1961)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 991. ||Another admission from Alexis and his made up friend that TOE does not meet the SM. That wasn’t their attempt but they did accomplish that task |
Thanks guys. Your other friends keep insisting it DOES meet the SM. We know better.
|2013 October 05 05:10:00 PM (1957)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 987. ||“Fact is that YOU DON?T KNOW” |
True, I only used the same paradigm as you for TOE.lol!!!!!!!!
I also used the information I do know about others in the world of academia. Its the only theory in science you cannot criticize.
Of course one can be intelligent and accept TOE. You must do it on faith. It makes more sense when intelligence is involved. To be an atheist and accept is mete foolishness. Lol!!!!
|2013 October 05 02:10:00 PM (1955)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 985. ||“You sound a little like a moon landing denier” |
Lol!!! No, I leave that for the God deniers. Same people.
I do KNOW that questioning the state dogma of TOE will result in an attempt to destroy your career. That is fact. Could he believe? Possibly, Must he believe, absolutely.
|2013 October 04 06:10:00 PM (1952)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 982. ||“What about those theists (Francis, Collins, ETC,ETC) that have no problem with TOE. Will a newer theory devastate them also?” |
I can’t see how. God existence is not dependent on TOE. Collins and others have no choice but to profess to the state position. Their positions depend on it. Take a look at how those who deviate from the state position have fared.
“Maybe you don?t want to devastate my world..LOL!!!”
Nah, wouldn’t do that. You have shown your worldview to be a fairytale.
|2013 October 04 06:10:00 PM (1951)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 981. ||“Give me a natural process that will write complex information code like DNA from, mud? water? Hydrogen?????”|
The Big Answer: Chemical reactions.
ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!! This was the best and funniest! Ok, I’ll bite, show me a chemical reaction that writes the complex information from mud? water? hydrogen? What? Hey transistors write the code for the Windows 8 OS? lol!!!!!!!!!
“Why not? How is a fish that shares characteristics with tetrapods not evidence?”
The same way something that looks designed doesn’t count as evidence of a designer. Right?
“Crick himself noted that it was actually more likely that life arose spontaneously on Earth”
Produce the math of the probability of these two options. Then we can deduce which is more likely. Maybe his aliens planted seeds for each species? lol, at least I gave you something to research. Well done little guy!
“I call bullshit.”
“If you were in those classes you must have been asleep.”
Not only did I take HS and College Biology, my daughter was a biology major now working on a PHd in Neuroscience. She also doesn’t buy it :) You don’t be
|2013 October 04 11:10:00 AM (1948)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 978. ||“No. You refused to wade through the evidence. You?re doing it now too. Baselessly asserting that it?s ?crap? without any valid reason to do so.” |
A link is not evidence. A fish is not evidence. If you have some real evidence post it. I have spent many the hour in Biology and I do not need a rehash of the same tried claims.
TOE being the BEST explanation does not make it fact, it makes it OPINION. You do know what opinion is, right? What you have is a great story, with zero evidence. You can’t begin to tell us how the story began and and you cannot use the SM to affirm or falsify the process.
For an atheist, I understand why you must force yourself to believe. The alternative for you is devastating.
So now why must I present an alternative view? What about Crick’s Panspermia? I don’t need an alternative to recognize stories with no evidence. Give me a natural process that will write complex information code like DNA from, mud? water? Hydrogen?????
|2013 October 03 07:10:00 PM (1945)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 975. ||“Refusing to ?wade through? the evidence” |
Actually I only refused to wade through your crap. Present some real evidence and we will wade together so you can can learn the nature of evidence.
Come on, present the most compelling piece of evidence. CAN you do it? Do you have anything to present? Since it is not fact all you have is opinion, right?
|2013 October 03 11:10:00 AM (1943)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 973. ||“Evolution or abiogenesis? Why do you keep obfuscating the issue?” |
Simple, its BOTH. They both lack evidence verifiable by SM. They are logically linked and I will accept any evidence you have for either. Prove me wrong, provide evidence.
Oh Wait!! You admitted it is NOT fact! This is contrary to what the scientist are claiming???
Would you guys get together and determine if it is indeed fact or myth! lol!!
|2013 October 03 01:10:00 AM (1935)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 965. ||“Tell me, how did nature develop complex information code like DNA?” |
No God, right? So how did nature write such complex code? You failed to prove macroevolution maybe you can tell us how non-life produced life and THEN wrote such highly complex code?????
Nature writes complex information code THEN nature turns non-life into life and THEN it takes this simple forms of life and takes that simple life form and transforms it into very complex forms of life over time. LOL!!! AND you believe it all with zero proof.
WOW!! That is a lot of faith!!!.
|2013 October 02 06:10:00 PM (1932)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 962. ||“Over and over again. Showing you where your objections are wrong” |
I have no objections other than you have failed to prove your case for macroevolution using the SM. Similarities does not make it true. And you claim to understand the nature of evidence and the SM! Lol!!
Tell me, how did nature develop complex information code like DNA? Similarities with mud? Lol!!
|2013 October 02 06:10:00 PM (1931)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 961. ||“So what pretty much everyone else sees as valid evidence (that happens to support evolution), you?ve decided it doesn?t count” |
There ya go, proof of evolution. Everyone else (not true if course) believes a few similarities count as proof of TOE therefore it is true! Real Science at work! Lol!!
OK, most everyone believes in a deity, and recognize the obvious, therefore that is also true.
|2013 October 02 04:10:00 PM (1927)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 957. ||“You don?t know what you?re talking about, all fossils are transitional.? |
Exactly Cass, what they are saying is “evolutiondiddit” therefore I have no need to use science to prove it. EVERY species has some similarities like DNA but so what? That is not proof of macroevoltion. I bought into it at one time until my eyes were opened.
Here is where the rubber meets the road. These same atheists would never accept that level of evidence for God. They have NEVER seen macroevolution take place but they discover a fish fossil and they believe.
|2013 October 01 07:10:00 PM (1919)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 949. ||“It was a fish that displayed tetrapod characteristics.” |
So? What if it does have some characteristics. A lobe is hardly an earth shattering discovery! lol!!!Humans and pigs have similar hearts. It doesn’t mean we evolved from the pig.
Yes, I am a denier because as a former believer I discovered the huge lack of evidence. Prove me wrong.
Now, use the SM to prove macro evolution. I want to believe but I think for myself, unlike you who resorts to appeals to Authority.
|2013 October 01 11:10:00 AM (1917)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 947. ||“2) Found using the SM ? observed gap in the fossil record.” |
BAAAAHHHHH, no you did not observe the fish alive and you have not observed any progression of fossils linking it to tetrapods. No gap existed, you ASSUMED a gap is present. You must prove the gap exists AND fossils that tie this fish to tetrapods. You observed the fossil of a fish with a lob, no more. Try again! lol!
“3) Transitional forms are evidence in favour of evolution. Tiktaalik is a transitional form therefore it is evidence in favour of evolution”
BAAAAHHHH, see #2. You have NOT proven the fish to be transitional. You assume it is a transitional fossil. Not proof.
Hint: “Evolutiondiddit” will not be considered the SM.
|2013 October 01 11:10:00 AM (1914)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 944. ||“So you really expect me to show how a species became a superclass?” |
Duh!. Its called science. I’m sorry but “evolutuiondiddit” is not science. You can point at the fish and claim it is transitioning to a species that already existed and call it science but until you can use the SM for your argument is no more than “evolutiondiddit”.
All the fossils are transitioning! lol!! So what are you transitioning to Freddie? A tetrapod? lol!!
1) present your evidence
|2013 September 30 10:09:00 PM (1907)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 937. ||“You keep trying to make arguments which require a reasonable understanding of evolution, the scientific method and the nature of evidence” |
Of which I, A, brought up in the first place.
So NOW, you claim ALL fossils are transitional. Can you use the SM to prove it?
Remember, we are determining the level of evidence required for God. So far, using your criteria, all we need to do is make a claim and find some who agree with me! Lol!!
|2013 September 30 07:09:00 PM (1905)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 935. ||“became a superclass (tetrapod).” |
Yes….yes I do and tetrapods had already existed so…. Lol!!!!
” transitional form which is evidence for evolution that was found using the scientific method?”
How have you proved this as traditional and not just a fish with a lob?????? Lol!!!!
I too used SM. I observed the fossil with the lob and concluded…..fish. Prove it wrong.
Did balloons evolve from puffer fish? Lol!!!
|2013 September 30 01:09:00 AM (1899)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 929. ||“what you?re saying is by proving evolution wrong,” |
Thank you alex. Can you let mousey and DPK know this too? :)
|2013 September 30 01:09:00 AM (1898)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 928. ||“Useless to discuss something scientific with an idiot that cannot agree to simple scientific facts” |
Translation for the audience”
“I have no facts which is why I don’t provide facts. All I have is the fossil of a fish. I would rather talk about my child, posters and try to quickly change the subject so others will not realize I place my faith in a reality that is provable with the scientific method.”
NOW, in order for anyone to waste their time meeting the demands for proof you require for God, you must do the same. You cannot therefore your demands are now dismissed.
|2013 September 29 07:09:00 PM (1894)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 924. ||“Fossils can be some of the evidence but there is more.” |
Where is it? Can you stop hiding all these facts so we can see macroevolution is more than just a guess at history? Remember, you must use the SM which you claim you have but DPK has acknowledged you have not done so.
Who is right?
alex has concluded I have proven you wrong.
|2013 September 27 07:09:00 PM (1886)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 916. ||“I think it?s so funny how most of you eventually come around and start to beleive even after you try so hard to prove that He does not exist.” |
Its even funnier they cannot prove what they believe now using the SAME criteria they want for God. Sure, 90% of the world is wrong and they are right. I would consider trusting them if the bar for evidence did not vary from the things they WANT to believe compared to the things they HATE.
Then look at them. They all end up becoming just like alex. Bitter, angry, no purpose and with no hope. Its really sad. Thanks Felix but I hope I do not have to adopt your name too! My handle is getting long.
|2013 September 27 06:09:00 PM (1883)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 913. ||“LOL!!! As always, your bible biased slant is colouring your perception of reality.” |
You will find I have not ever brought up the Bible. I understand, it helps you take the spotless off your inability to provide evidence for your own belief. Bible thumpers, uneducated, idiots, fools and all your other attempt at insults still points to the fact you failed.
|2013 September 27 04:09:00 PM (1880)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 910. ||“I will teach him HOW to think not WHAT to think.” |
So that a simple questions like providing evidence using SM to support microecolution causes him to mess his pants like it does you? Maybe he will point at a fish fossil and scream “look speciation” lol!!!
You need to learn the SM before you can teach it. You need to learn what constitutes a fact and what constitutes wishful thinking. No, I am afraid you just are not qualified.
You are well qualified to teach him to call others names though. Hey, there’s something, right :)
|2013 September 27 12:09:00 PM (1878)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 908. ||“brought the boy up to think for himself, then he would avoid being indoctrinated.” |
That would be nice, or he could just believe anything he is told much like you do. I AM SURE known of you biases will rub off! Lol!!!
Like how atheist always claim they let their children think for themself yet they are the worst of indoctrinators.
” easy to see how a fish having tetrapod characteristics points towards evolution”
Well……lets see it. Using the SM show us proof the fish became a tetrapod or any other species. I need proof not indoctrination.
|2013 September 27 01:09:00 AM (1875)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 905. ||“the boy will likely grow up to be an upstanding, successful, and productive person” |
Its possible. Kids are resilant. Even the hater O’Hair had a kid that turned out well. We can hope for the best. Got to overcome your indoctrination but, yes, it is very possible.
Oh no, mosey went to the loser blast. Hey you and your 4 year old use the same tactics! lol!!!!!!! Well played there mousey!
|2013 September 26 10:09:00 PM (1873)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 903. ||“Simple questions my 4 year old is able to answer ” |
Oh good, put him on here and see if he can answer the simplest of questions!
So pitiful and such a drone. You can’t answer because you have no proof. You were told to believe and you do. You certainly believe obamacare will save you money too! Lol!!!!!!
Stay strong in your faith. I feel so badly for that kid. You should not be allowed to breed
|2013 September 26 09:09:00 PM (1871)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 901. ||“I see that you?re unable/unwilling/too stupid to take the plunge in a discussion of science, evolution, and things we know as fact” |
Oh mosey, I could never ascend to your heights. That is why I look to you for guidance. I come to you in all due reverence and awe. Can you, using the SM method prove macro evolution to me? I want to believe mosey!
|2013 September 26 08:09:00 PM (1869)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 899. ||“I have all the evidence I need. I?ve even presented you with some of that evidence and you?ve wilfully refused to examine it” |
A lie, but atheist are Ok with lying, right? lol!! How sad!
|2013 September 26 03:09:00 AM (1865)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 895. ||“Evolution discussions need to include time frames. What are you” |
Pick any time frame Lol!!! Just make sure it is macro, not your easy fall back to micro.
There you go, obstacle removed!
Lol!!!!!!!!!! Whadda ya got, more school yard name calling?!!!!!!!!
|2013 September 26 01:09:00 AM (1863)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 893. ||“He wants to talk facts,are him.” |
Begin with this, using the SM, prove macro evolution is true? Simple, straightforward and with all of our species, should be a great deal of evidence, right?……….hmmmm, maybe not. Mousey can’t provide even one fact to support it. He would rather sing happy birthday to the earth.
|2013 September 25 06:09:00 PM (1861)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 891. ||mousey! Are you just another tease? Lets try again for the 100th time. |
Begin with this, using the SM, prove macro evolution is true.
|2013 September 25 06:09:00 PM (1859)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 889. ||“Whenever a set of facts is presented, you?ll tuck your tail in and flee.” |
Is that why you will not present any evidence?I promise not to leave but…..Hey,lets test it and see mousey!
Begin with this, using the SM, prove macro evolution is true.
I’m excited, got the popcorn back out. cbmp chmp!
|2013 September 25 05:09:00 PM (1857)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 887. ||“You haven?t presented any evidence yet, that?s definitely your problem” |
Nope not my problem. I presented exactly the amount of evidence you provided.
“Just why do you believe in a God?”
Because of all the evidence silly.
Now why do you believe in macroevolution with no proof? Are you not the “Facts Only” cult? Lol!!!!
|2013 September 24 09:09:00 PM (1852)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 882. ||Prayer? |
you don?t understand the evidence or what it says about prayer, that?s not my problem.
Let me know if you decide to provide actual proof for macroevolution. I will meet the same bar you provide.
lol!! You actually use a Bible verse to avoid providing proof for your faith. Irony..
|2013 September 23 05:09:00 PM (1849)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 879. ||“I?ve already tried to get you to look at just a tiny bit of that evidence” |
The fish? Seriously this is your evidence? You expect me to cast my pearls before a guy that considers a fossilized fish as proof? That’s the best you have?
Just why do you believe in macroevolurion? Faith?
|2013 September 20 06:09:00 PM (1843)||[A40Y-HorX-Troll] wwgha link 873. ||I abbreviated so as not to take another’s handle but to eliminate another diversion by the atheist attention challenged. |
“Stop mixing evolution with abiogenesis.”
Oh A&A, so young and so challenged. They are not being mixed, they are equally faith based beliefs your ilk embrace. Abio is just one of many theories offered on the origins the issue.
hey, but I am easy to please. Prove TOE or prove Abio. I will meet the level of proof for God you can provide for either.
PS: You do know TOE is dependent on origins to answer where the first life originated, right?
|2013 September 19 08:09:00 PM (1824)||[A] wwgha link 854. ||“If so any evidence to show it?” |
I?m not sure. You have never established the nature of evidence. Do you mean like a fish fossil is observational science for macro evolution type proof?
See if you can focus this time dead-Fred.
|2013 September 19 03:09:00 PM (1821)||[A] wwgha link 851. ||“you?ve been told before. your god nonsense is not tolerated any more” |
oh No!! We have tough guy behind the laptop. Alex, it dies not matter if you tolerate it It will continue until I am done. If you don”t like it to can leave.
“If so any evidence to show it?”
I’m not sure. You have never established the nature of evidence. Do you mean like a fish fossil is observational science for macro evolution type proof?
|2013 September 19 02:09:00 AM (1817)||[A] wwgha link 847. ||“Hey ?science guy?, mixing abiogenesis with evolution again.” |
Absolutely! macroevolution is not possible without an origin and they both have the same amount of evidence to support them. Really very little difference.
Now if you would like to provide evidence that fits the SM……..oh never mind, all you can do is cut & paste links. You don’t even know why you believe….lol!!!!
|2013 September 18 03:09:00 PM (1813)||[A] wwgha link 843. ||“You jumping up and down, fingers in ears, screaming ?It ain?t so? does NOT constitute a controversy” |
Oh then we are done. Because many more people believe in God than believe man evolved out of Campbell”s soup those O so many years ago.
So there we have it. Keep jumping up and down crying mousey…..lol!!!!
|2013 September 17 10:09:00 PM (1808)||[A] wwgha link 838. ||“The mountain of evidence supporting evolution is good enough for me but not you. Go ahead, genius, falsify it.” |
That is because you have a great deal of faith. If there were a mountain, well, there would be no controversy and you would have provided more than a fish.
Lets see if you can give us a few goodies off this mountain, hmmm? OH, BTW, I don’t have a need to falsify, you must prove it. :). GOOD LUCK! lol!!
Remember, magic and myths DO require proof. Agnus said so! Lol!!!
|2013 September 17 11:09:00 AM (1804)||[A] wwgha link 834. ||“To show anyone else who may be reading along that you don?t have any.” |
Steady Freddy, you and mousey work that one out. If it is not falsifiable then its not science right? And besides, A&A states some things don’t need proof. Wouldn’t this be true? Hey, its just like TOE!
lol!!! Twist! Twist!
|2013 September 17 12:09:00 AM (1798)||[A] wwgha link 828. ||“You said yourself that god is unfalsifiable” |
I did? HMMM, so how would you falsify the first being born in the hot soup?
Lastly, If there is no TOG, why do you and the brethren keep asking for proof??????????
|2013 September 17 12:09:00 AM (1796)||[A] wwgha link 826. ||“Instead he acted much like nature” |
ROTFL!!!! I about choked on primordial soup! Ok, ok, go ahead. Show me how God is like nature in producing this first single cell.
The again, maybe you ate on to something. God acted much like nature? Hmmmmnm…..
past!, hey mousey, why would I tell SETI to stop looking for life in the universe? What’s that go to do with your macro evolution or God?
shhhhh …keep it down.
|2013 September 16 10:09:00 PM (1790)||[A] wwgha link 820. ||” Are we observing the work of evolution” |
That depends. Is that the name of your God with intelligence and the ability to write complex code?
“Strange, isn?t it, how similar our DNA is to that of a chimp, gorilla, orangutan?”
Strange? Not not at all. Why does that seem strange? Strange is lightning bolts and soup writing high information coding! Lol!!!!!!!
“state the rules then”
Sure, for the challenged I am glad to. The same level of proof you require for God. SO simple even a caveman can understand it. Lol!!!!
|2013 September 16 07:09:00 PM (1787)||[A] wwgha link 817. ||“And just how has And just how has Tiktaalik failed A? Go on, enlighten us with your stunning knowledge” |
Glad to. The fish did not fail, your interpretation of the dead fish is s complete failure. You have not observed or proven macro evolution with your great find. Next!
Lol!! You actually believe observing a fossil is observing macro evolution.
So when we observe DNA are we observing God’s work? Hmmmm?
|2013 September 16 01:09:00 AM (1769)||[A] wwgha link 799. ||“On the contrary, I do care about you, you have no idea. And I never intend to provoke you in any way so I apologize if I did. |
Just the fact you exist provokes alex. He is a very bitter and angry young man. He is angry at the world for his failures and comes to the blog to take his frustration out on every theist he can find. Pity him, use him as a warning for others but don’t engage him in conversation. Sadly things always end badly for his ilk. Quite a pity.
|2013 September 15 06:09:00 PM (1764)||[A] wwgha link 794. ||“Typically they always resort to either you must have faith to believe? meaning, yeah, once you ignore any rational doubts and the complete lack of evidence to the contrary” |
Oh, like macroevolution? Well since you can use faith why not theists? Hmmm? Once we remove irrational beliefs like in the atheists world were life violated the law of biogenesis. lol!!!
|2013 September 14 05:09:00 PM (1749)||[A] wwgha link 779. ||“There is much, much more than a fish” |
True, not even a fish, just a fossil with unsubstantiated claims by Fred. More than that it is a repeat of Ada, a colossal failure.
Liking how you guys are careful not to provide specifics. Really scared of saying too much. ;).
|2013 September 14 01:09:00 PM (1747)||[A] wwgha link 777. ||“It?s OK ?a?” |
I know. So can u provide evidence that macro evolution is a fact? Please tell me you have more than a fish.
Looking forward to being shown I am wrong. Lol!!!
You want an alternative which shows to KNOW macro is not a fact, right mouse? Yeah, lol!!!
|2013 September 13 09:09:00 PM (1740)||[A] wwgha link 770. ||“And just how has And just how has Tiktaalik failed A? Go on, enlighten us with your stunning knowledge of paleobiology and comparative anatomy failed A? Go on, enlighten us with your stunning knowledge of paleobiology and comparative anatomy” |
Biology and anatomy from a fossil? ROTFL!!!
|2013 September 13 04:09:00 PM (1739)||[A] wwgha link 769. ||“Who claimed that it was? Not I” |
OK Freedie, you failed. We will open the question to the field. Everyone knows Microevolution takes place since it is verifiable by the SM. I don’t need a fish fossil to prove the point. Now, lets see who can do the same for macroevolution.
“I wonder if it?s true that atheism has become so obsessive for many, that it?s now functioning as a religion?”
Absolutely! They have dogma, churches and their high priests. All the characteristics are present.
|2013 September 13 01:09:00 PM (1736)||[A] wwgha link 766. ||“I never claimed that it did. You asked for evidence of evolution found using the scientific method and that?s exactly what I gave you.” |
How is a fossil of a fish found in the ground in the present EVIDENCE of speciation? You are observing a fossil, not a process. Are you really this challenged? Adding pretty drawings does not enhance the case.
“You?re welcome to eat your popcorn while ?wading through? the 29+ evidences for macroevolution over at TalkOrigins.”
Seen them. I was a believer in speciation for 30 years. So which of the 29 do you find the most compelling?
“It?s evidence that tetrapods most likely”
Or maybe it was just a fish? And there you have it, not proof, a most likely!. Why are you looking for the transitional after the transition supposedly had occurred- that doesn?t make any sense?? My aunt is most likely my uncle without the package. lol!!
Its just another hoax that the week minded cling to for hope. You have just the latest in a long line of failures.
Let us know when you have actual evidence that really follows the Scientific Method.
|2013 September 13 01:09:00 AM (1731)||[A] wwgha link 761. ||‘Hold on, that sounds familiar. Oh, yes, that?s because scientists have already done it and observed speciation happening. So much for your claim that it doesn?t.” |
Great!! Lets see it! I’ll get the popcorn back out. Sounds promising…..
|2013 September 13 01:09:00 AM (1730)||[A] wwgha link 760. ||“I was using it as an example of evidence for evolution found using the scientific method ? which is what you asked for.” |
Then prove it and stop the games. Pointing at a fossil with a lob does NOT prove speciation, macroevolution or whatever word you would like to use. It’s a fish, it is not transitional unless you can prove it is more than a fish.
What have we observed? A fossil in the present of a fish.
What does it prove? A fish existed that died and became fossilized.
Was this what you wanted to prove? Please tell me you have more.
You know my cat and dog both have four legs, eyes, nose and ears. Could they really be the same species? Which one is evolving into the other? lol!!!
|2013 September 11 05:09:00 PM (1727)||[A] wwgha link 757. ||“Microevolution is proven by science.?. Why have you suddenly changed your stance on this?” |
Never have questioned or asked for proof of it. So what’s the point? Trying to use micro as proof of macro?
I laughed so hard at your so called SM.
Tiktaalik is a fish. Now prove it evolved into another species. Observed? Predict? Test?
can you? Will you?
Exploring a rock formation is a test of speciation? Lol!!!!
Tetrapods existed BEFORE your fish, wrong again Freddie!
So if a gap is “observed” in the creation account for intelligence can we add a creator? It is observed!!! lol!!!!
|2013 September 10 04:09:00 PM (1725)||[A] wwgha link 755. ||“Post 137. It?s still there” |
Yep, it still is there and languishing in ineptness. Please, use your post and step by step show how it proves Micro evolution using SM.
I’ll get the popcorn and a pen. This is exciting!!
|2013 September 10 12:09:00 PM (1723)||[A] wwgha link 753. ||“If you want to show that my reasoning is, in any way, incorrect” |
Already done. Wanna prove me wrong? Still waiting for evidence for macro using the SM.
The rest of you post got my boots dirty…..lol!!!
|2013 September 09 10:09:00 PM (1720)||[A] wwgha link 750. ||“I?ve pointed out time and again that there is no evidence for the God” |
Frederick I laughed so hard at your post I nearly over a praying atheists! Lol!! Your attempts at reason are stupendously hilarious. Now I don’t know why atheists who believe in God call themselves atheists. Your ilk is a screwed up bunch. They claim there is no God too, so….
I would like to believe you – and you claim there is no God. I really would, but you claim there is REAL evidence for macro evolution so – you are just not credible.
What up wit dem atheistic Taoist Dippy?
|2013 September 06 11:09:00 PM (1712)||[A] wwgha link 742. ||“Are these the same atheists you talked about before who also believe in god?” |
Yeah, what is up with being atheist and believing in god????? Lol!!! AND then praying when they don’t believe in god!! You got some messes up puppies there Dip. Lol!!!!
Still no proof? tick tick tick….
Oh, Theist are talking to God when they pray. DUH!
|2013 September 06 08:09:00 PM (1710)||[A] wwgha link 740. ||Dippy, |
I am talking about prayer. Why do atheist pray if it doesn’t work? Why does the Buddhist sect of atheism pray if it doesn’t work? Seems bizzare, doncha think?
Geez, answer one question!
|2013 September 06 07:09:00 PM (1708)||[A] wwgha link 738. ||“They seem to know full well that they?re praying to something they are merely imagining” |
Sooooo, they knowingly talk to themselves since they KNOW there is no God?
FAS, say God is not real. At least thrust speak to a deity they believe is real! Atheists yammer on to the ceiling. We have good MDs to deal with their psychosis. Se about helping them Frederick.
Now, what about the atheistic Buddhists. What up with those wack jobs?
“A has told us repeatedly that we do not understand the nature of evidence”
True and you continue to not provide your evidence.
|2013 September 06 02:09:00 PM (1702)||[A] wwgha link 732. ||Still no evidence to provide, huh? |
Well can you tell us why atheists pray? That seems whack, right? Remember, this thread is about prayer
|2013 September 06 12:09:00 PM (1700)||[A] wwgha link 730. ||“Budhist atheists?|
HA, is that like a quadriplegic sprinter?
Maybe a carnivorous vegetarian?”
LOL!!!!, obviously Dual personality (DP) didn’t know Buddhist where atheist. That’s right DP, along with Jain, Taoist and some variants of Hinduism. You are learning and that is a good thing. So you should be able to answer for all theses groups since you are also atheist. Only fair right?
So anyone going to provide just (1) piece of evidence which will survive the SM to confirm atheists believe not by faith but by proof?
We will see……………..
|2013 September 05 07:09:00 PM (1692)||[A] wwgha link 722. ||“accept it due to the overwhelming amount of evidence that demonstrates that it happens.” |
Great! Lets see it. I am ready to believe!
Hey, can you atheists tell me what is up with those Buddhist atheists What’s up with the fat guys belly?
|2013 September 05 11:09:00 AM (1684)||[A] wwgha link 714. ||“Already gave evidence (well, ok, Freddie and DPK did?).” |
Great! Lets see the evidence! GLAD to see you agree with me Dual Personality. We don’t need to answer why others do certain thongs right DP?
|2013 September 05 02:09:00 AM (1682)||[A] wwgha link 712. ||Can anyone tell me why the atheist down the road will not walk under ladders? |
Can anyone tell me why atheists use faith to believe in Speciation? Obviously no evidence since they will not provide it.
|2013 September 03 05:09:00 PM (1673)||[A] wwgha link 703. ||The falsification of evolution is ignored and derided: it is falsified by its lack of deductive, predictive capability in the actual, real science of biology |
Absolutely 40YA which is why this whole group of angry atheists refuse to provide one shred of evidence which will hold up to the SM. Yet, they will not accept the same evidence for God. Exposing their religion causes them to go ballistic and come back with personal attacks. Problems with TOE? Just ignore them and hide them if at all possible. Can’t speak negatively about the dogma!
|2013 September 02 02:09:00 PM (1667)||[A] wwgha link 697. ||“The TOE is the best explanation for modern biodiversity. You disagree” |
As much as I believe primordial soup designs and produces a man. Yeah, I am not buying. Now produce some evidence I will reconsider. Need more than fish with a fin. Lol!!!
“Nope. Just pick a definition you think you can justify and stick with it”
Why? You brought it up up little guy. Go ahead tell us what constitutes proof that all living things evolved from that first cell. Remember, that first cell you can’t determine the origin of? Share you definition if you like.
lol!!! Oh yeah, I am so scared. I’m ready to believe. Do you have the goods little guy?
|2013 September 02 12:09:00 AM (6358)||[A] wwgha link 443. ||“Many of us who don?t buy into your fairy tales spend life achieving things and, you know, actually helping people” |
True, its been proven time and time again atheist are the tightest most heartless people on the planet. Theist on the other hand are removing pain and suffering around the world.
They are great and cussing, anger, hate and debating things they SUPPOSEDLY don’t believe exists. What a bunch of losers! Lol!!
|2013 August 31 04:08:00 PM (6350)||[A] wwgha link 435. ||G, |
Been a long time. Good to see you back and providing logical arguments again. Of course, now the personality atheist and company will claim I am you. Just a heads up there.
|2013 August 30 10:08:00 PM (1657)||[A] wwgha link 687. ||” long as it isn?t the same old tired, failed arguments that have been defeated here time and time again” |
Let me know when you defeat one so we can be a witness.
That should have been “thousands of years Dippy”. Its called a virtual keyboard and I still do better than Alex. Lol!!!!
Want a more engaging discussion, show me the same evidence for TOE you require for God. I give what I get :).
|2013 August 30 09:08:00 PM (1655)||[A] wwgha link 685. ||“but I know where this is going? tulips and fish again, right” |
Nope that is your TOE evidence. I am not going to wade through the thousands if evidence for you. Your laziness is not my problem. lol!!!! Thanks Freddie!
I only use the same tactics used by the TOE contingent. Only fair right Dippy?
|2013 August 30 07:08:00 PM (1653)||[A] wwgha link 683. ||“Got any god evidence” |
Absolutely! It has been provided here many times. As Agnus would say, Google is a great tool. Then again, you are not a theologian so I an sure you would not understand. lol!! Thanks Tulip!
Now, would cause you drop your faith in TOE Dippy?
|2013 August 30 05:08:00 PM (1651)||[A] wwgha link 681. ||“evolution could be proven completely wrong tomorrow and totally discarded” |
Interesting ……how could that happen to cause you to lose faith?
Should have mentioned earlier. You will be called one of my puppets. I am everyone on the blog….lol!!!! Just another distraction by the atheists.
|2013 August 30 12:08:00 PM (1647)||[A] wwgha link 677. ||“you?ll never define ?kinds? in such a way that it would be useful in biological terms.” |
What’s wrong Frederick? Yo wanna define kinds as brown haired cats vs white haired cats so your theory will stand? Lol!!
|2013 August 30 12:08:00 PM (1646)||[A] wwgha link 676. ||“you willfully ignore the 150+ years of evidence you?ve been pointed to ? as you have” |
Huh, …you have hid them well. Did you count all of them? Provide the links and/or post # so we can examine said evidence. I hope it is not another fish….lol!!!
Now is TOE fact or nor? Dawkins, Krauss and Agnus say yes, Frederick. young professor from UA say it is not. So which is it?
I am ready to believe.
|2013 August 30 01:08:00 AM (1641)||[A] wwgha link 671. ||“It is but speciation is not which is what A is referring” |
Exactly Chlor and when the shrills run around claiming it is fact and there is mountains of evidence they should be ridiculed. Unless…..they can produce a few shreds right here
DPK, what in your link proves TOE? Lets see if YOU looked at it.
And, if Agnus(get help young fella)is correct nothing needs to be tested, right? That makes it pretty easy just to believe anything like Agnus’ tulip. Lol!!!
|2013 August 29 08:08:00 PM (1636)||[A] wwgha link 666. ||” Frederick proceeds to fallacy of Argumentum ad populum. Do you believe in God too?” |
Oh, yes correct, that was Agnus. Frederick just teases. All this mass of evidence but refuses to present any. Maybe like Agnus you admit you don’t understand and just believe like a good soldier? Lol!!!
Let look at Fredericks proof:
That about cover it? Lol!!!!
Your refusal to provide evidence is not my problem. Lol!!
|2013 August 29 11:08:00 AM (1632)||[A] wwgha link 662. ||“best explanation for modern biodiversity due to the masses of evidence that supports the theory? |
Now Frederick proceeds to fallacy of Argumentum ad populum. Do you believe in God too?
You failed again. Using the SM show us that TOE is true Yes I know us and the great apes have four limbs and a brain but this does not prove TOE. Lol!!!
You don’t believe prayer works? Not my problem its yours. Lol!!!!
|2013 August 28 05:08:00 PM (1628)||[A] wwgha link 658. ||“The fact that you think lots of small changes over long periods of time can?t cause big changes is irrelevant here” |
lol!! Actually no, it is the very issue you have yet to prove and believe in faith. Agnus believes because he was told to believe.
Oh Frederick you are a hoot. Now provide some solid evidence using SM.
|2013 August 28 05:08:00 PM (1627)||[A] wwgha link 657. ||“You think you have a better theory then go ahead and present it” |
Huh, so the reason TOE is true is because you don’t like other theories? What does this have to do with truth, evidence and the scientific method? If you don’t like your words twisted be a more effective communicator.
Now I was told TOE is fact. So why can’t you provide irrefutable evidence?
|2013 August 28 11:08:00 AM (1624)||[A] wwgha link 654. ||evolution is the best explanation of current biodiversity” |
The best? Lets see we have those claiming it is fact, it requires faith and then it is just the best explanation. Still not provable using the SM. It might be “best” but it still relies mostly on speculation and guesses and faith.
I just don’t have that much faith. Let me know when you understand the nature of evidence.
|2013 August 28 01:08:00 AM (1620)||[A] wwgha link 650. ||“I live with a sentient being in my head named Alexis.” |
Uh huh, check mate. Young man, seek some serious professional counseling. The last thing you need to be doing is attempting to discern if a God exists.
I will leave you now. Find a quiet place.
|2013 August 27 07:08:00 PM (1618)||[A] wwgha link 648. ||” A, you must understand that we are not top grade biologists” |
Really Agnus? So it is is so complex you just take the word of particular biologist? Politicians love you. Ever considered opinions of top biologist who dissent? Ever considered all the creative drawings, guesses and assumptions made by the biologist? Ever considered that there is absolutely mechanism in nature that can created and program complex DNA?
I am very close to a very good biologist and she dissents. If you can invoke a fallacy then I will as well :)
Nah, easier to be a clone isn’t Agnus.
|2013 August 27 05:08:00 PM (1617)||[A] wwgha link 647. ||Frederick, |
I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. So this is the argument. Tiktaalik? simply a fish is proof of TOE? No longer attempting to link it to tetrapods, huh?
lol!! Oh yeah, you have the SM down! Original thoughts are lonely in the dead Freddie mind! Lol!!
|2013 August 27 12:08:00 AM (1609)||[A] wwgha link 639. ||“He finds it hard to believe that nature can make species evolve,” |
Only because you and Dippy refuse to show evidence. Why are you holding out? It must be because neither of you know WHY you believe. You were told to believe and like good little soldiers you do. Sad you can’t think for yourselves.
It is all clear now. This is why you must use links!
lol!!!! How pathetic…
|2013 August 26 05:08:00 PM (1605)||[A] wwgha link 635. ||“The evidence has already been presented.” |
Tetrapod fossils indicate tetrapods existed. Nope, it is not evidence for TOE.
Next! Only serious replies needed.
|2013 August 26 03:08:00 AM (1602)||[A] wwgha link 632. ||“it can be replaced with common sense and current evidence.” |
oh, the SM is replaced with common sense I have high regard for common sense. So, stop stalling. Show how common sense points to a high information system like DNA forming out of soup and no programmer?
Feel free to use the current evidence or even the mountain. Lol!! You know, the mountain of evidence yet you must revert to common sense instead? Lol!!
|2013 August 25 05:08:00 PM (1599)||[A] wwgha link 629. ||“That is fair, as science does indeed use the scientific method.” |
Good!,I am waiting. Step by step using SM show us have life evolved from the soup using the SM.
Maybe we can then agree on what is and us not to evidence
|2013 August 24 11:08:00 PM (1595)||[A] wwgha link 625. ||Oh, |
bring on the mountain so we can see what passes for evidence!
|2013 August 24 11:08:00 PM (1594)||[A] wwgha link 624. ||“Do you have any evidence that any thing such as gods exist,” |
Dippy Dippy, I just posted it up above about where you posted TOE evidence. I used the same standard you use for TOE. Only fair, right?
|2013 August 24 06:08:00 PM (1592)||[A] wwgha link 622. ||“your argument from incredulity claims DNA could not have evolved naturally.” |
I did not make an argument. I did ask, out of your materialistic view, what is a possible reasonable proposal?
simple question, there should be a mechanism in place we see in nature, right?
Bring us a portion of the mountain while you are at it. I want to learn.
|2013 August 24 04:08:00 PM (1589)||[A] wwgha link 619. ||“as a test to his creation, he planted a veritable mountain of evidence” |
Do you mean making a tetrapod? Leaving bones in the ground? Moths? Emboyos? I wish you would show us this mountain. Sure its not on Atlantis?
|2013 August 24 04:08:00 PM (1588)||[A] wwgha link 618. ||“In place you propose” |
Bah!!!!!!, I proposed nothing. I did ask how nature programmed complex information code, DNA? Do you even have a reasonable hypothesis other than magic?
|2013 August 24 03:08:00 AM (1584)||[A] wwgha link 614. ||“even though we don?t fully understand how DNA formed, it wasn?t by magic” |
I never said magic, you did. So that leaves only nature, right? Nature writing a high information program is NOT magic? Lol!!!!!
Do you see how ridiculous you sound dippy? With all we know about nature give me even one credible hypothesis.
|2013 August 24 02:08:00 AM (1582)||[A] wwgha link 612. ||“Do you know? do you?” |
So you don’t know how DNA began yet you STILL believe it was done by nature?
Hmmm, so what you are saying is we don’t have to have all the answers to maintain faith.
“But a talking snake ten thousand years ago talking to a rib woman about fruit? No, that did not happen.”
Why? All women have ribs. You believe DNA was written with no programmer! Lol!!!!!
|2013 August 23 07:08:00 PM (1579)||[A] wwgha link 609. ||“now which of the thousands of sundry gods do humans KNOW exist? They can?t all be real, now can they??” |
Oh Dippy, that is now requiring more evidence than you provided. WHICH process created DNA? WHICH Big Bang theory do you believe? Who or What produced matter? So whadda ya got Dip?
|2013 August 23 05:08:00 PM (1577)||[A] wwgha link 607. ||Agnus the Tulip, |
You believe in evolutions don’t believe nature can create a talking snake? Oh Tulip! Your faith is wavering!!!
Isn’t a talking man a little more unbelievable SuperFly?
|2013 August 23 05:08:00 PM (1576)||[A] wwgha link 606. ||“got any evidence that your god actually exists” |
Oh yeah! Using language you will understand. 6000 years of evidence, Creation, DNA, man and all the human beings who know God exists and Tetrapods. Now stop spilling our milk!!
|2013 August 23 02:08:00 PM (1572)||[A] wwgha link 602. ||“He thinks the word Tetrapod is somehow being touted as proof for evolution” |
Huh, but you brought it up as proof of TOE, not me. So if you are not pontificating about the tetrapod, what is your proof using the SM? Lucy?, Embryos?, Moths? Come on, this is suppose to be a fact.
I can give you the gate voltage on a BJT and I can support it using the SM. Lets see you do the same. Drop your tetrapods now! Lol!!!
You seem quite flustered Freddie…………
|2013 August 23 11:08:00 AM (1570)||[A] wwgha link 600. ||Let me sum up the proof Frederick has for TOE. |
There it is. Tetrapod proves DNA evolved out of Campbell’s soup, the brain evolved from clay and man evolved from scarecrows. Yep, typing Tetrapod into your browser is the equivalent of the scientific method, for things WANT to believe. Yes Frederick, I do understand your faith.. …i mean science.
Here ya go Frederick.
|2013 August 22 04:08:00 PM (1566)||[A] wwgha link 596. ||“Land= more food, territory and escape from predators.” |
lol!!!! So is this the scientific method at work? So a fish who has a diet of seaweed decides I’m a gonna jump out of the water and get some good land grass?
Next he decides, hey no predators up there I bet! I can rule the land.
Last big decision: Its just to crowded down here in the sea, I nee to jump out and see if I can get my own hood! Lol!!!
Wow! What’s that you or the Tulip that came up with those Deuce?
|2013 August 22 12:08:00 PM (1563)||[A] wwgha link 593. ||‘Why do I need more? It?s exactly what you asked for ? evidence for evolution found using the scientific method” |
lol!! What I asked for? Bah!!!!!!! Scientific method? Really? Good! Using the scientific method show us that Tetrapods did evolve from fish or a mammal or whatever you think it evolved from into another species.
So how is it advantageous, according to TOE and Lamarckian, for a marine dwelling animal to acquire the traits of a land dwelling anima? This is assuming you can prove a tetrapod was once another species.
|2013 August 22 01:08:00 AM (1556)||[A] wwgha link 586. ||“come back with a point by point refutation and of course, your alternate theory!” |
No, much like you guys for origins, I do not need to replace your faith based psuedo-science with an alternate theory. That does tell me you must have major doubts. Second, I will not dig through links you would like to drag others down with. If it is obvious and everyone is a believer you should be able to provide one irrefutable fact from your own education. You cannot which again shows you believe in faith.
Again you do NOT understand evidence, this is obvious therefore you should get educated and begin by thinking for yourself. I am a recovering believer and the freedom is refreshing.
Can’t provide even one, huh? Gotta have a link?
|2013 August 21 05:08:00 PM (1552)||[A] wwgha link 582. ||” wrong, dismissing 150+ years of evidence” |
Dismiss? Never! I’m waiting for the first piece. And you have it! Great!!! Lets see it, you do have more than a tetrapod, right? Whadda ya got, some moths on a tree? Some embryo drawings? Come on, lets see the undeniable truths. This is exciting Freddie!! I bought in at one time and I am looking to come back!!
|2013 August 21 12:08:00 PM (1547)||[A] wwgha link 577. ||“Why would you even expect it to be? The claims made by the TOE may be big” |
You think? They are HUGE if no intelligence guides it and yet you believe with no proof. Therefore we conclude rightly you believe through faith. You believe nature created DNA and eventually Nam and did so by pure chance. Sorry, that requires proof. I cannot muster that kind of faith.
Throwing out a tetrapod is not meeting the burden of proof. Lol!!!!
|2013 August 21 12:08:00 AM (1541)||[A] wwgha link 571. ||“If you ever present your evidence then we can see if what you claim truly is evidence” |
I agree, are you ready to demonstrate? Will the bar you set for TOE be the same as you require be the same as for God?
History says your kind cannot! Lol!!
Anatomy? Lol!!!! Oh Agnus!
|2013 August 20 06:08:00 PM (1538)||[A] wwgha link 568. ||” you know what happens when they?re asked to present it? They don?t,” |
Hey! Just like atheists. But alas, the paranormal scientist do. One has to determine if what they claim is evidence truly is evidence.
Lol!! Yes the nature of evidence is “crap” Freddie? I would expect as much! Sigh…..
|2013 August 20 05:08:00 PM (1536)||[A] wwgha link 566. ||Freddie |
I do not have to prove the negative, you must prove the assertion. You will not just as you refuse to prove you understand the nature of evidence.
But hey, if you would like to believe you are an ape knock yourself out.
Still waiting for all this proof for TOE. So much yet not one shred presented. You know paranormal scientist claim they have loads of proof for paranormal activity. Maybe we should compare the two? Good exercise to educate you on the nature of evidence.
|2013 August 19 10:08:00 PM (1524)||[A] wwgha link 554. ||Edward, |
Notice how DPK claims there is plenty of evidence but yet he fails to produce any? What he is saying it is not his job to show he understands the nature of evidence.
He like the rest here sets the bar at a higher level for God than they do for TOE. On that they cannot argue.
|2013 August 19 07:08:00 PM (1520)||[A] wwgha link 550. ||Frederick thinks humans are apes…….well by who he hangs out with, well OK I could see his confusion. |
|2013 August 19 07:08:00 PM (1519)||[A] wwgha link 549. ||Edward, |
Get the feeling these guys have cheered a great deal as 47 churches In Egypt have been attacked in the last 5 days? Haters are so ugly.
|2013 August 19 07:08:00 PM (1518)||[A] wwgha link 548. ||Edward, |
We are attempting to get the atheist to understand the nature evidence. They refuse to provide proof for evolution using the scientific method while requiring such evidence for God. Keep pushing them for the evidence so that we can set a baseline for evidence.
tee hee hee, they will not since they know recognize their hypocrisy.
Now they will perform more diversions claiming we are the same poster. Lol!!
|2013 August 19 11:08:00 AM (1495)||[A] wwgha link 525. ||“were talking about the scientific method and how your version seems to be more in keeping with AiG?s statement of faith” |
Really? How so? Provide a statement where this holds true.
|2013 August 19 11:08:00 AM (1494)||[A] wwgha link 524. ||“Craig betters Krauss? Huh?” |
Absolutely. If my recollection is correct, Krauss pretty much agreed. But I didn’t bring up Krauss and his “something is now nothing”, that was DPK.
Spare me another summation of his argument. I have read it. He simply redefined nothing. Fantastic!
|2013 August 18 07:08:00 PM (1482)||[A] wwgha link 512. ||Readers, |
You may find this shocking. A new zealot atheist finds a theist who betters his hero, a fellow atheist as obnoxious and wrong. Who would of thunk it? It further infuriates Scourge that Craig would post the debate on his website. Lol!, yes we know an atheist would never do the same.
It is a known fact that atheist like PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins are the nastiest and most obnoxious personalities on the web. Check them out for proof. Those like Scourge cannot stomach his own being annihilated in the arena of ideas and reason.
|2013 August 17 08:08:00 PM (1476)||[A] wwgha link 506. ||“philosopher of religion would be more knowledgeable in theoretical physics and cosmology than an actual theoretical physicist and cosmologist.” |
ROTFL!!! Again!!! No, Craig is more knowledgeable in presenting a case for God of which Krauss had no discernable rebuttal. In physics, Krauss is great until he redefines something as nothings in order to satisfy his bias against God.
Nice try boys to twist my words. Liars always remain liars unfortunately, especially atheists lol!!!
|2013 August 17 07:08:00 PM (1473)||[A] wwgha link 503. ||“Maybe there was indeed a law breaking event?” |
Tulip!, you just said that wasn’t possible and now you have stated maybe laws may have been broken? Is it possible a deity was involved? Laws were broken and who made the laws so they could be broken? Why dies an atheist have this much faith?
Now Tulip you and Mousey need to make up. Make sure Mouse follows through. :)
|2013 August 17 04:08:00 PM (1468)||[A] wwgha link 498. ||“Modern physics would seem to suggest that what has been thought of as ?nothing? is in fact ?something?.” |
ROTFL!!!! The good Dr Krauss who has decided to redefine nothing to be something and has been criticized by many for his lame attempt. Of course, Dippy buys it hook line and sinker. Not surprised, he is a atheist of great faith.
For our readers, this is the same Krauss who was smoked in a debate at NC State by Craig. Not to mention, all of Krauss’ work is biased toward disproving a deity. Funny stuff Dippy.
“Although, one day, i do hope Alexis posts for herself”
Uh, um, yeah Agnus/female alex. You keep us apprised of that process there……….
Now this in the funniest of all:
“If there was a ?creator god? it would not make any sense. Nothing can simply ?make? the universe, it doesn?t even work in the laws of physics and matter conservation?”
Agnus/female alex what????? Nothing except nature right tulip? So please, share, how could a universe come about by NOT violating these laws especially “matter conservation”?
I’m getting the popcorn for this one!!!!!!!
|2013 August 17 12:08:00 PM (1465)||[Xenon] wwgha link 495. ||“Nothing can simply ?make? the universe, it doesn?t even work in the laws of physics and matter conservation?” |
But according to modern science wasn’t it nothing that did create the universe?
|2013 August 16 10:08:00 PM (1455)||[A] wwgha link 485. ||“if you don?t accept evolution, you must therefore accept the existence of supernatural gods.” |
Can you show me the quote? Actually that has been your claim because of your fear there might be a deity. Evolution in no way impacts the existence of a deity.
You accept evolution on faith and that rattles your worldview. Tough to swallow, huh?
I for one would like to know hoe one rewires their brain to produce another being. That sounds quite fascinating and may be evidence for evolution.
|2013 August 16 04:08:00 PM (1450)||[A] wwgha link 480. ||DPK, |
Yeah, Agnus just rewired his/her brain to make a sentient tulip.
Besides, he/she went to wiki to find out what the scientific method includes.
lol!! You are priceless Agnus or Alexis or Butterfly, whatever you are.
Oh, one more time. The TOE discussion is relevant to show atheist do utilize faith, not science, in their belief system. Also to show their lack of understanding in the nature or evidence. Your holy grail, evolution proves that fact.
|2013 August 16 01:08:00 PM (1444)||[A] wwgha link 474. ||Frederick, |
I forgot this one:
?By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record.?
How would evolution discredit the existence of God? Ready to believe young blood when you can prove it using evidence.
|2013 August 16 01:08:00 PM (1443)||[A] wwgha link 473. ||Frederick, |
You don’t even know what the scientific method consist of young blood? There is your problem. Rather pontificating you have provided proof, you need to do a little research on what comprises the very basics of science. I have shared this before too.
Oh, lol!!!, Agnus or female alex’ little attempt above is not it. lol!! I give her/him/it a break since they obviously know next to nothing about the field.
Let me try:
Is evolution true?
Hypothesis: I propose that evolution is not linked to mutation in DNA.
Prediction: I believe that if enough mutations occur in a species, it will remain that species
Analysis: Given the rate of mutation and known accounts of the species remaining as said species, evolution is proven to be false.
|2013 August 16 02:08:00 AM (1438)||[A] wwgha link 468. ||“list your standard” |
Sure, for the 50th time. Science must meet the scientific method. We will then analyze if your belief is based on actual facts/evidence or faith.
“First off, Alexis is female.”
The word she implies female Agnus. BTW, how do you know she is female? How do you know she is gullible enough to be atheist? Lol!!
|2013 August 15 08:08:00 PM (1434)||[A] wwgha link 464. ||“who are we going to humiliate? Who are we going to completely devastate in a debate?” |
lol!!! Hey lets get Alexis!! We could devastate her until she/he/it answers. This is great fun to monitor. All the atheist can talk about is me!!! I am so humbled by it all.
Summary: Atheist still have zero understanding concerning the nature of evidence.
Note: Speaking with a professor at Univ Arizona this week, he admitted no observational evidence for macro exists and that faith is required. Progres….
|2013 August 14 01:08:00 AM (1417)||[A] wwgha link 447. ||” i is a college grad” |
lol!! i might be but not you. If you can manage to get your GED that will be quite the accomplishment little fella. Then you can work at moving out of mom and dad’s house.
thank for coming, goodbye Alexis. Remember schools teach about God so be careful what finishing school you attend. Lol!!
|2013 August 13 11:08:00 PM (1414)||[A] wwgha link 444. ||“dat why it?s taught in public schools. and yo skydaddy is only taught in your bullshit school?? |
lol!! Did they teach you the vocabulary. Yes, if the public schools teach it must be fact. They have NEVER been wrong. So funny…..worst case, they take no position on God.
They also very often teach there is a God. So, there is the evidence you seek Alexis.
|2013 August 13 04:08:00 PM (1411)||[A] wwgha link 441. ||“when it comes to science, blind chance is always better to use rather than magic” |
Agreed, so why are you resorting to “evolution diddit”
That’s not an explanation it is just a way to avoid having to producing an explanation.
DNA? TOE diddit!
Brain? TOE diddit!
|2013 August 12 11:08:00 AM (1404)||[A] wwgha link 434. ||” it is without a doubt our brains are advanced to the point of super computer type performance, we equally have a ridiculous amount of flaws.|
Mental disorders, strokes”
lol!! Yep and those brains came about through blind chance!. Yeah right! Disease is not design flaw. Agnus even though you made up a Robin to be your sidekick, you are not a superhero, you were born to eventually die. Only a blind fool would attempt to claim the human body is not incredibly complex and is not designed. Whatever helps you sleep Tulip.
Figured out how that first DNA evolved yet?
|2013 August 12 12:08:00 AM (1401)||[A] wwgha link 431. ||“Shame that the human body is a pathetic design with more flaws than Windows Vista?.” |
ROTFL!!!!!! That is the new atheist blog claim and the Tulip spits it out like truth. The human body is a bad design? This is how you make yourself feel better that blind chance designed a human being yet our most brilliant cannot mimic it.
Check this out. The same human brain that is a poor design, Tulip and the atheist listen to for reasons believing in TOE. LOL!!!!!!! Remember it is a bad design so you cannot trust it Tulip.
Hey, design a pump that will last as long as a heart. Also, no maintenance allowed.
Tulip you are so brainwashed and ignorant I believe you will need to create another Tulip to have any chance of restoration. No I am not Stan but I know you don’t think for yourself. So hey, if you like believing, knock yourself out Agnus the Tulip.
|2013 August 11 07:08:00 PM (1396)||[A] wwgha link 426. ||“gee, I missed that story.” |
who is Stan? And don’t you know Agnus kikes you to get names correct.
So you missed where God created all things and that God gives all good gifts? Geez, that’s right in the Bible an atheist claim to know the Bible, lol!!!!!
I forget, atheists believe nature created itself and then nature created all things, lol!!!
|2013 August 11 05:08:00 PM (1393)||[A] wwgha link 423. ||Cur, |
How could you! Don’t you realize doctors, buying food an getting power in your home means you don’t believe in God!
lol!!!, the sad part is they are really this ignorant! Lol!!!
|2013 August 11 05:08:00 PM (1392)||[A] wwgha link 422. ||“Would you accept that as good sound advice” |
No, I would ask since God has given us the gift of insulin why can’t I use that?
Of Christian doctors do prescribe insulin so it must be atheist doctors who give such idiotic advice. They should be removed.
Insulin had been shown to work using the scientific method.
|2013 August 10 03:08:00 AM (1375)||[A] wwgha link 405. ||“We just believe in God, the great programmer and designer” |
Thomas, I doubt you know much about what I believe but let me ask. You cannot see a HUGE difference in nature randomly writing a high information program like DNA vs a Deity designing the entire process?
Second, atheists do not explain it through science, they attempt to avoid and deflect. Science follows the scientific method. Just read the thread.
Third, don’t take this blog seriously. It’s just for some fun.
|2013 August 09 06:08:00 PM (1372)||[A] wwgha link 402. ||“TOE has physical testable evidence” |
Great, lets see it!! I’ll get the popcorn!
Never mind Agnus you and your tulip never provide any evidence. But you did figure out out I copied my above response. Well Done! Lol!!!
|2013 August 09 04:08:00 PM (1369)||[A] wwgha link 399. ||There we go. God meets the same standard of proof atheists use for TOE.|
|2013 August 09 04:08:00 PM (1368)||[A] wwgha link 398. ||Proof for God? |
I already did. Atheists dismissed it as it doesn?t confirm their bizarro version of the TOE and, like I?ve already said, that?s not my problem.
You could also list these as more proof.
|2013 August 09 12:08:00 PM (1363)||[A] wwgha link 393. ||Thomas, |
I was discussing Pascal yesterday with some students but on another topic. Atheist hate the wager but looked at from the point of logic is true and it is solid. It could be atheist cannot grasp the concept since he was highly intelligent.
Atheist place all their faith in nature, the great programmer AND designer. How crazy is that? Thomas don’t let the personal attacks bother you. They hate happy people.
|2013 August 09 12:08:00 AM (1356)||[A] wwgha link 386. ||Why did ol Aggie go on a gun and Jeopardy rant? |
|2013 August 09 12:08:00 AM (1355)||[A] wwgha link 385. ||“The thing about science is, truth is true whether you happen to believe it or not” |
Absolutely! however science is not in the business of truth. Science most of the time is in the business of what they can prove at the moment. Dippy ate you really thus ignorant? Lol!!!
No matter how many times you say the words fossils, carbon dating, organisms and lol!!!! Critters, they still ate NOT evidence. It is funny stuff though.
I do value truth tremendously. Still wondering why atheists, these who only believe facts, still cling to a faith based belief like TOE?
Agnus is young and naive so I can give her a pass.
|2013 August 08 02:08:00 PM (1347)||[A] wwgha link 377. ||” preponderance of evidence supports the theory” |
Awesome! I want to believe. Pick one and share it then er can determine if you believe based on fact or faith.
You are not afraid are you?
|2013 August 08 11:08:00 AM (1343)||[A] wwgha link 373. ||Thomas, |
Great insight young man. You made very good points, were not angry and your vocabulary is such you did not need to resort to profanity. Thanks for sharing your experience. Good wisdom there.
So you still can’t share why you exercise “Faith” to believe in something without proof? You are atheist!! Lol!!
|2013 August 08 12:08:00 AM (1335)||[A] wwgha link 365. ||“Also i got the information from the discovery channel, so honestly, i could be wrong.” |
Yeah, yeah, just maybe. You are wrong a lot little guy. Try sources other than television my little dingo.
|2013 August 08 12:08:00 AM (1334)||[A] wwgha link 364. ||“diversions again? This is rather boring now. If you have nothing to contribute, please move on” |
LOL!!! Unlike you who just added….??????
Yawn!! another Freddie puppet.
Ummm, you just stated chicken are dinosaurs when we turn certain genes on. LOL!
Oh how do we know what dino DNA looked like?
You are hilarious Agnus.
|2013 August 07 06:08:00 PM (1331)||[A] wwgha link 361. ||Frederick, |
You claim the chicken is not a dinosaur but Agnus says it is a dinosaur. So which is it? Somebody is obviously wrong.
Now Frederick will you now back up your claim by proving macro evolution is true? I am looking for the evidence you promised. We can then determine if you understand the nature of evidence. From that we can determine if you are ready to move on.
You can answer with your sock if you like.
|2013 August 07 11:08:00 AM (1327)||[A] wwgha link 357. ||Actually, I prefer the iron age when the chariot dominated. Lol!! Bronze is just too soft like a Mouse head |
So, anyone gonna let us vast majority know why we are wrong? People change when EVIDENCE is presented.
A good start would be a solid hypothesis on how DNA high information code was written by nature.
|2013 August 07 02:08:00 AM (1321)||[A] wwgha link 351. ||?No one can prove God to anyone.? |
Micelle I can name for you many who left atheism and became theists due to science and reason. One must be reasonable and be open to reason. I myself am a former atheist and a couple of friends did indeed play a part in my conversion.
I would agree No one can disprove God to anyone.
|2013 August 07 12:08:00 AM (1316)||[A] wwgha link 346. ||Mousey!, |
Again? Another claim you make but cannot prove?
When you claim there in no God this would include proof. You see mousey, the majority of the world believes in some sort of deity. This include some of the brightest and best. You might look into why sooooo many believe. I have provided some of that in the past, you can look it up.
Let me know when you can disprove this deity or the sun or maybe, hey…..just prove nature programmed DNA.
|2013 August 06 11:08:00 PM (1310)||[A] wwgha link 340. ||Mouse-is-dead, |
No problem, prove God does not exist and I will become atheist.
Should be simple since you, agnus and your alter ego state it is so evident. Look forward to the proof but hope you guys are much better with this than you were with macro evolution.
lol !!! I like when little cults claim the majority of the world is deluded. It is so cute.
|2013 August 06 06:08:00 PM (1307)||[A] wwgha link 337. ||Ewwww!!! |
Now the vacationing Mousey is back. Great trick!
|2013 August 06 06:08:00 PM (1306)||[A] wwgha link 336. ||Magically Frederick arrives as the mouse disappears. Lol!!! |
The claims about Tiktaalik are mere smokescreens, exaggerating mere tinkering around the edges while huge gaps remain unbridged by macroevolution. I’m sure the chicken is only a feathered dinosaur. No understanding of proof or the nature of proof
|2013 August 05 08:08:00 PM (1291)||[A] wwgha link 321. ||Michelle, |
Ignore Alex, stay away from anything’s that predator is s part of. You are welcome here anytime. Besides, who gives a rip what Alex thinks. He is like the crazy uncle everyone avoids Lol!!!!!!
|2013 August 05 07:08:00 PM (1289)||[A] wwgha link 319. ||Hey I have another ID, Michelle. I am just racking up the names. |
|2013 August 05 07:08:00 PM (1288)||[A] wwgha link 318. ||“even you concede that evolution happens, you just think labelling (sic) it as micro-evolution prevents speciation happening” |
Not my label, it is what it is called. Lack of evidence, hoaxes and creative drawings that keep me from believing. I’m ready to believe when proof is presented. You even admit indirectly you believe without proof. Why? Evolution “did it” is not a viable explanation, is it?
137 now shows me you do not understand the nature of evidence. You refuse to ackowlesge the clear and very real problems evolution cannot begin to address.
|2013 August 05 11:08:00 AM (1283)||[A] wwgha link 313. ||Michelle |
Lol, make sure you have armed guards if you meet an Alex. Intolerant haters like Alex are dangerous to themselves and anyone not like them. Make sure the children ate secure and cannot interact with him.
Just ignore him like the rest of us.
|2013 August 04 07:08:00 PM (1276)||[A] wwgha link 306. ||Michelle, |
We all know people like Alex. They yell and cuss at everyone in their path. Atheist live in a state of hopelessness. He is a very angry young man. None of us engage because it only encourages him and frankly he has nothing to say. It is sad to watch someone on a path to certain destruction.
|2013 August 02 05:08:00 PM (1270)||[A] wwgha link 300. ||For arguments sake, God is not provable. Now tell me why you believe in TOE when it cannot be proven with facts? Atheist are suppose to believe in what can be proven so what gives? |
Where? Proof of God?
On other threads as well as from other posters.
Where are the evolution lies? Lol!!! You named one, I added Dawkins and there are more. You should look into it if you plan to keep supporting it. HINT: Look into embryos.
Now stop dodging by bringing up lying scientist and embellished drawings. Show us you know what evidence looks like.
I agree, can you get Frederick to give us a link to his uh, um “evidence”?
|2013 August 02 12:08:00 PM (1266)||[A] wwgha link 296. ||“I already did.” |
Good, show it.
“you?ll need to give us evidence of your God”
I already did as did many others.
“hoaxes (like ?Piltdown man?)”
One of many!! I wonder why scientists have to fake evidence for something claimed as fact? For Frederick the hoaxes are not lies, we need to separate the lies from the hoaxes for Frederick. lol!! Then we have Richard running around calling TOE a fact and skeptics the same as holocaust deniers. Another lie from another nard.
|2013 August 01 10:08:00 PM (1260)||[A] wwgha link 290. ||Lol!!! Dippy takes the old stance, we see nothing we believe nothing. What happen to TOE is fact? You want proof for God but you can’t produce any proof for something you claim is fact! Nature designed DNA correct because there is no God, right? |
lol!! What a mess Dippy remains.
|2013 August 01 03:08:00 PM (1257)||[A] wwgha link 287. ||Freddie, |
A hoax = lie or maybe your morality defines that as kist an innocent mistake? Lol!!
|2013 August 01 03:08:00 PM (1256)||[A] wwgha link 286. ||Freddie! |
We have evidence for TOE at a level you would accept for God? Great!!! I’m ready to believe. Lets have it. None of this “I already did”. Show your work. Start small, like with DNA.
This will be exciting! I”LL get the popcorn.
|2013 August 01 11:08:00 AM (1253)||[A] wwgha link 283. ||I can and I will question how some scientist would like to define speciation. Scientist have been exposed for lying about their supposed evidence for Darwinism over the last century. The fervor to prove this true is matched only by religion. Anyhow, defining speciation to make Darwinism more believable still leaves you without evidence. |
Show me the level of evidence for TOE you require for God. That’s fair and would show how you understand the nature of evidence. Why is that so hard?
Question your scientism so you will not be brainless nard.
|2013 July 31 05:07:00 PM (1248)||[A] wwgha link 278. ||“You don?t get to decide what is speciation and what isn?t” |
Really? If that is true you don’t get determine if evidence for God exists. Lol!!! What’s nard!
Hey, I have an idea for you. Since atheist claim nature created DNA simply because nature exists, maybe my dog took a dump and created DNA. He exists, we were not there and he is part of nature.
|2013 July 31 10:07:00 AM (1245)||[A] wwgha link 275. ||Geez, what a nard. I need to explain the example. |
Swimming only means you assume I can swim the Pacific because I swam the length of a pool. No proof, only an assumption. The same applies to macro and Micro evolution.
If the guy swims the shortest route of the Pacific I will THEN believe he can do it. The same goes for Micro. Show me how the first DNA was born.
|2013 July 31 02:07:00 AM (1240)||[A] wwgha link 270. ||Dan, Dippy only has faith in nature to write programs and design systems!! lol!!!! Crazy stuff|
|2013 July 31 02:07:00 AM (1239)||[A] wwgha link 269. ||Everything claimed by Dippy is just another lie. Sigh! |
I never even mentioned God. I asked for proof and he provides none, nada, zilch. In frustration, he makes up lies.
My swimming analogy is perfect. Micro can be proved and macro is not proven. QED. Case proven without Dippy tactics.
I can swim the Pacific. Even Agnus believes it!! Lol!!!!!!! How gullible. Now prove it wrong! Lol!!!
|2013 July 30 07:07:00 PM (1231)||[A] wwgha link 261. ||Hmmm, I have a straw man argument? No, what I have done is destroy the notion there is proof that DNA or any other complex creation was magically born in the primordial soup. Also, no proof for TOE. That is my position and so far it is unchallenged. |
Its OK to believe with faith, you just need to be honest Dippy
Lol, he still thinks I am Stan. No problem, Stan is a clear thinker. Please don’t call me DPK. Lol!!!
|2013 July 30 10:07:00 AM (1227)||[A] wwgha link 257. ||A net? |
lol!!!! Dude you are too funny. Let me know when you have proof that first man made the swim. We only need a net!! Lol!!!
Hey, was it a net that protected those first amino acids from the harsh environment? Of course they had to evolve from soup first…
Agnus, you just don’t understand the nature of evidence.
|2013 July 29 08:07:00 PM (1222)||[A] wwgha link 252. ||A work in progress? Huh, so where are we, what do we know? Have we identified an intelligent programmer in nature that MIGHT have written the code? Anything at all to lead us to such a conclusion? A sea turtle maybe? Lol! |
This is exciting. But wait, haven’t you been singing the praises of abiogenesis?
Time to run and hide mousey? I understand, if I were you I’d do the same.
|2013 July 29 04:07:00 PM (1220)||[A] wwgha link 250. ||I have a trail of decreasingly complex lifeforms to the moment life came to be” |
Awesome! That is really great news!! So your proof shows that everything began simple and became more complex and nature was intelligent enough to do this.
I am so excited. So now you will show us? Great! Lets keep it really simple. Show me how that first strand of DNA evolved. Was the first cell already in place and the DNA evolved IN the cell?
I’m ready to believe so bring it on!
Oh Agnus, such a simpleton. The old mircoevolution proves macroevolugion silliness. Yes my swimming the Olympic size pool proves I can swim the Pacific. Have you ever had a independent thought?
|2013 July 28 08:07:00 PM (1216)||[A] wwgha link 246. ||Alex, |
lol!! You make me laugh so…
Glad I read your post this time. You guys are about as Independent as the inner circle of the DNC. Oh, and you have your churches and your tax-exempt orgs. You are in no way original, independent or relevant.
|2013 July 28 07:07:00 PM (2533)||[A] wwgha link 415. ||Thanks remmy.|
|2013 July 28 07:07:00 PM (1215)||[A] wwgha link 245. ||“Having no proof? Does that automatically invoke the supernatural as a rational temporary explanation?” |
Finally, an admission you believe with no proof. So how does that first DNA form “naturally” in nature? I got to hear this. What are the “natural” possibilities? Something complex and designed appears in the primordial soup is “natural”. Lol!!
Sure! a Creator makes no sense. Lol!!!
Quantum physics was also a supernatural phenomonea not that long ago. Natural means little much like your logic.
Bring back the smarter anonymous anonymous!!
|2013 July 28 07:07:00 AM (1211)||[A] wwgha link 241. ||Mousey pretending there ate two of him. How quaint. The MO is the same, no answer. |
I did readjust. I am now a skeptic.
You have no proof so why believe? You don’t believe in God. At least be consistent.
|2013 July 28 12:07:00 AM (1205)||[A] wwgha link 235. ||“What is the evidence that you?re working from? Maybe you don?t know how to research?” |
Mouse the II, maybe you can help me. I will make it simple. Tell me how the first strand of DNA evolved. Remember, your proof would need to meet the same standards you would require for God. Let the scientific method be your guide.
|2013 July 27 07:07:00 PM (1201)||[A] wwgha link 231. ||Now we have two guys posing as mice. Puppet within a puppet. Mouse learn html. Second, you want me to quit asking about TOE then prove it using the same level of evidence you desire for prayer or God. |
The TOE does tie into the purpose of the blog. You must establish your ability to process the nature of evidence. Maybe mouse”s new persona can do that.
|2013 July 27 03:07:00 PM (1197)||[A] wwgha link 227. ||Oh miniscule “a”, TOE will not change Gods existence in the least. Many more theistic TOE adherents than your little band of hoodlums. |
Now lets see the facts that back TOE to the same level you expect for God. Ready to believe and a man of science.
So simple even a caveman could do it.
|2013 July 27 01:07:00 PM (1189)||[A] wwgha link 219. ||Oh smaller “a”, |
I thought this discussion was about your faith in TOE. Do you have the level of proof you require for God or not? To play with the big boys you gotsta show you know the rules.
You fanatics really get angry when one questions your faith.
Oh, and smaller “a”. Questioning the legitimacy of TOE is NOT the equivalent of being a Creationist or denier. lol!!!! Learn to use google properly. My fault, I turned you on to it.
|2013 July 27 11:07:00 AM (1187)||[A] wwgha link 217. ||Who said anything about Creationism? Which one? What does that have to do with TOE? Is your proof for TOE lack of support for Creationism? |
Well how about this. Dug a little into your link. Only 15% believe in Atheistic TOE. Lol!!!!! Puts you back in the milli again, huh Mousey! Lol!!!
|2013 July 26 11:07:00 PM (1180)||[A] wwgha link 210. ||Mosey, |
Oh Goody! Will you now be providing solid evidence to support TOE? I want to believe but solid scientific proof must provided. How much and how solid the evidence you ask? The same you require for God. Can you do it?
Why are more Yankees saying God is OK with them?
|2013 July 26 01:07:00 AM (1174)||[A] wwgha link 204. ||My favorite puppet is when I am anonymous. I bring him out to embarrass atheists. Lol!! |
You can guess why I bring out the tulips! Lol!!
Great stuff, puppeteering allows the atheists to avoid the “gotcha” questions..
|2013 July 25 09:07:00 PM (1171)||[A] wwgha link 201. ||More wild unsubstantiated accusations and personal attacks. What a pathetic….human? or are you still a trasitional being? Lol!!! |
Anything to keep the “gotcha” questions away. Oh, and YOU have NEVER been taken serious! Lol!!!
|2013 July 25 05:07:00 PM (1168)||[A] wwgha link 198. ||Lol!!! Now I am Solomon. The paranoid of mouse and crew is delicious. This is so entertaining. Who is me? Who is not? Lol!! |
I’m DPK and Alex too. And The Judge, I’m him too! [that's from and old song for the idiots].
Mousey you are sooo paranoid not to mention soooo wrong, as always! Lol!!! But you are fun to watch, much like a caged skunk.
|2013 July 23 08:07:00 PM (1162)||[A] wwgha link 192. ||IF TOE is so sound, why did Crick need his alien theory? Hmmm? Why not accept the sound theory? Alien theory has everything to do with TOE. How do you think it started silly? |
References? Silly mouse, you really do not know there are multitudes of scientist who question TOE. Run over to google.com and type in your question. Very cool site. Many must keep it quiet in order to earn a living. Sssshhhh
Better model? I thought TOE was sound? Show it off a little rather than running from it
|2013 July 23 07:07:00 PM (1160)||[A] wwgha link 190. ||If TOE is so sound, why did Crick need his alien theory? Hmmm? Why not accept the sound theory? Alien theory has everything to do with TOE. How do you think it started silly? |
References? Silly mouse, you really do not know there are multitudes of scientist who question TOE. Run over to google.com and type in your question. Very cool site. Many must keep it quiet in order to earn a living. Sssshhhh
Better model? I thought TOE was sound? Show it off a little rather than running from it.
|2013 July 23 07:07:00 PM (1156)||[A] wwgha link 186. ||If the theory is uh, um, so “Sound”, why can’t you provide proof supported using the scientific method? |
If it is so “Sound” why are there scientist in great abundance who question the veracity and many who are not Christian?
If it is so “Sound” why did Crick propose his alien theory?
If it is sound then why must many scientist be forced to confess to believe with threat of no tenure when they truly have doubts?
Why is it the only theory one is not allowed to question?
You are right, it is sound ad ever. Not!
|2013 July 23 11:07:00 AM (1152)||[A] wwgha link 182. ||Freddie, |
I learned the game from the best right here at WWGHA. See how quickly Mouse wants to change the subject? He doesn’t like evolution because he is afraid to look at honestly. The “gotcha” questions haunt him.
But hey, I am a science guy. When it comes to science, knowing how often it is wrong, I only believe what can be proven. You have more faith than I can muster.
|2013 July 22 09:07:00 PM (1147)||[A] wwgha link 177. ||Fred |
Before anyone takes you seriously, you must show you understand evidence. To do not.
Besides, you brought up the fossil to me as if it proves evolution. My point is now QED.
|2013 July 22 07:07:00 PM (1145)||[A] wwgha link 175. ||Ben |
Freddy doing some fancy backing there. He thinks that fossil proves evolution using the scientific method! lol!!!
First, look up scientific method and then using it, show how DNA evolved. It is really small so should be am easy task.
|2013 July 22 07:07:00 PM (2525)||[A] wwgha link 407. ||Messenger |
You must think as an atheist. Anything you disagree with is hate to an atheist. They hate all things they do not like therefore you must as well.
I could of pulled out one of mu army of posters but decided to stick with A.
|2013 July 22 12:07:00 AM (1138)||[A] wwgha link 168. ||Lol!! This is so suspenseful! The atheists are responding to let me know I am being ignored. This is some of the funniest stuff I have ever seen. |
Ok, Ok, I know I an being ignored. No need to post just to let me know. Feel free to play with yourselves, please! Lol!!!
I will attempt to stay on topic for the readers by pointing the inability of atheists to produce evidence for their beliefs. That is all that is needed here.
|2013 July 21 07:07:00 PM (1134)||[A] wwgha link 164. ||Ben |
You have got to stop poisoning the well with facts. You must TOE the state line.
Evolution is true. Evolution is true.
Just keep chanting that for a few hours.
|2013 July 21 07:07:00 PM (1133)||[A] wwgha link 163. ||?He?s been repeatedly referred to talkorigins and whyevolutionistrue. He doesn?t go there because he?ll get his ass handed to him on a plate.? |
That’s right folks. Mouse can’t tell me why evolution is true but he will get his big brother to do it for him.
Mouse I can make a better case for evolution than you and I am a skeptic! Evolution and manmade climate change are not to be questioned!!!!
The people cannot be allowed to think and if they do they will get the Avital treatment.
|2013 July 19 04:07:00 PM (1119)||[A] wwgha link 149. ||Hahahaha, |
These guys are so paranoid it is hilarious.
Yes, I”m everyone and who knows who I will pop in as next. I may be a Tulip, Alex or a completely unrelated poster. All to keep you guessing and entertained. Got to keep your soap opera interesting.
lol!!! You guys are a riot.
Here is how it works. You made the claim now back it up.
|2013 July 18 10:07:00 PM (2491)||[A] wwgha link 373. ||Alex couldn’t agree with you more about anonymous. Be easy on him. He is challenged|
|2013 July 18 09:07:00 PM (2488)||[A] wwgha link 370. ||Cur, |
I have been over to his blog as well. A nice change from the stupidity and child-like rants produced by the haters here. Logic, reason and facts. Nice! Difficult to navigate on a phone.
I’m pretty sure I know the hijacker here. BHO is no other than DPK. I always suspected it.
I see Mousey is attempting to be the blog cop. Mousey keep the mouths of your minions shut. They add nothing to the conversation. Feel free not to post too!
|2013 July 18 12:07:00 PM (2476)||[A] wwgha link 358. ||“Hmm, i wonder what Sockpuppet will be next.” |
Oh, it was alex, posing as a tolerant loving human being!
Cue another Tulip birth from Butterfly.
|2013 July 18 11:07:00 AM (2475)||[A] wwgha link 357. ||#345|
Nothing but soap opera analysis and grade school diversions. Nothing concerning content as mousey lectures they rest of us concerning staying on topic. Maybe if they actually answered a questions we could stay on topic. Scroll the threads and see where they continue to avoid questions. But no……..as mousey admitted, “gotcha” questions scare them.
Why have theist left the blog? Probably due to atheists cursing, name-calling and childish hijinks. I mean, lol !!! they are told to leave by the atheist elite on a regular basis. I would wager you will not find a single theist who has done the same.
|2013 July 16 12:07:00 PM (2449)||[A] wwgha link 331. ||Readers, |
Add liar and deceiver along with Dippy’s long list of character flaws. Along with his incredible hypocrisy.
Just the latest attempt by BHO to get himself out of another corner. How truly pathetic.
|2013 July 16 11:07:00 AM (2445)||[A] wwgha link 327. ||LOL! OMG!! Somebody is now using my name in an attempt to make me and 40YA to be the same person. Nice job of throwing in the nicks. |
The ultimate low and I feel certain the last one to do this, “Big Hairy One” is back under another handle. DPK seems to be the most likely culprit since he sounds like BHO. BHO had to run after he was busted for lying about being a professor of Biology.
40YA, my apologies for the children here who, when they are backed into a corner must resort to such deception. Atheism teaches and causes insanity.
People who live with no absolutes have no wrongs.
|2013 July 16 02:07:00 AM (2410)||[A] wwgha link 292. ||I am a complete fraud and a worthless piece of ocean scum. I deserve to be castrated and have my stones hung on the fence post of a Sahoian tribesmen.|
|2013 July 15 12:07:00 AM (1101)||[A] wwgha link 131. ||Personal attacks and zero proof. Dippy, you failed again. |
Try again. Why do you believe something without proof? Act like an atheist for goodness sake!
You are a prophet my friend!
|2013 July 14 10:07:00 PM (1098)||[A] wwgha link 128. ||EW!, still dodging. The question: is there a God? When you fix that, you can move on to which God.|
But alas, as a bona fide hypocrite you really are not an Honest seeker are you? No, dishonest.
How do you accept TOE but not God? Disprove this:
God started evolution.
|2013 July 14 08:07:00 PM (1096)||[A] wwgha link 126. ||Sorry Dippy, it is your job. Until you prove you are not a hypocrite, you have proven you do not know what evidence looks like. |
Its OK, you are brainwashed. All your evidence for TOE. It is proof of God. Now, lets look at it and compare.
|2013 July 14 08:07:00 PM (1093)||[A] wwgha link 123. ||Sorry, proof of God has been presented time and time again. As Dippy stated, you just need to take a class. |
Let me know when you present TOE evidence and then we can determine if you truly do believe that which can be proven using the scientific method, of course.
|2013 July 14 12:07:00 PM (1088)||[A] wwgha link 118. ||Dippy |
IT Is right on topic to show your hypocrisy. You have no ability to grasp logic and the nature of evidence. You want a level of proof of God greater than that for TOE. YOU must prove you are no longer a hypocrite.
Good Luck. lol!
Oh,, and what makes your TOE that one true TOE? Lol!!
|2013 July 14 02:07:00 AM (1079)||[A] wwgha link 109. ||Oh, its not your job to show facts to back your faith. |
Yes, I understand. It simply means you cannot. Maybe you need classes so you can understand it.
Lets use your logic. God is also a widely held and acceptable belief. Its not my job to convince you of the obvious.
Bam! Right back at ya Agnus and Dippy! Lol!!
Cue personal attacks and cursing! Lol!!
|2013 July 14 01:07:00 AM (1075)||[A] wwgha link 105. ||Dippy, |
Glad to see you. Using the scientific method prove macro evolution. This is great, we can settle this and not need faith!!
I have my notepad. Lol!!
|2013 July 13 05:07:00 PM (1071)||[A] wwgha link 101. ||Atheist Logic: |
I can swum an Olympic pool therefore I can swim the Pacific!!
lol!!, you are so funny Superfly or was that from your little friend. Microevolution is proven by science. macroevolution is your faith. So you can accept God now. It requires less faith.
|2013 July 13 03:07:00 PM (1067)||[A] wwgha link 97. ||“If ridicule of the information is not sufficient to defeat it, then the next tier is attacking the opponent directly, using faux moral and/or personal attacks” |
Right on the money! Their logic allows them to accept TOE but deny God. Of course their standard for God rises for God.
|2013 July 12 08:07:00 PM (1059)||[A] wwgha link 89. ||Let me remind our readers of Dippy’s claim and his/her inability to defend. He/she then follow up running away. |
“You should also read what your bible says about mocking people? something you do all the time. I smell BBQ sauce in your future there, ace.”
lol! He/she is such a Lille child. Dippy boo hoos because he/she feels mocked. Get a Tulpia Dippy.
|2013 July 12 06:07:00 PM (1057)||[A] wwgha link 87. ||Its not my job to prove your claims are lies. You will not prove your own claim |
You are a liar with zero character Your changing of the subject will save you liar. Go make a Tulpia.
You are done.
|2013 July 12 04:07:00 PM (1055)||[A] wwgha link 85. ||Agnus, |
So being female is mocking to you? You have now shown your sexism. How sad. DPK called you female and it was done because you seem female with the ponies and Tulpias. Stop being a sexist Superfly.
DPK, I am not familiar with the Bible referring to mocking. You claim it does Be a man, if you have a set, and show us. I bet it was just another lie from you.
Again you find yourself in a corner and again you attempt to squirm away. Shall I show you your quote?
|2013 July 12 12:07:00 PM (1052)||[A] wwgha link 82. ||Aw, you still can”t back another of your claims. You are so predictable and whiny. |
Ask Superfly to help you with a Tulpa so you have a buddy.
|2013 July 12 11:07:00 AM (1050)||[A] wwgha link 80. ||You want me to defend a claim you made Dippy? LOL!!! I wnat to learn from you Hoss. You imply I will go to hell for mocking? (although I don’t mock). But assume I do. Explain yourself young man and show your work.|
|2013 July 12 12:07:00 AM (1044)||[A] wwgha link 74. ||Oh Dippy, you don’t know what the Bible says about mockery. |
Didn’t think so. Just another Dippy failure. Hey, maybe the Tulipa can tell us!!
|2013 July 11 08:07:00 PM (1038)||[A] wwgha link 68. ||Yes, the draw of Tulpae escapes me there Superfly. |
What does the Bible say about mockery? Just curious. What’s wrong, you can dish it but you can’t take it hoss?
Now come on, somebody share some cute Tulpaes with us!
Mousey, I know what you are thinking. Yeah, I am Superfly too!
|2013 July 11 04:07:00 PM (1034)||[A] wwgha link 64. ||Actually readers I have no game plan. There must first be something to plan against and my atheist friends have provided no offense! Lol!! |
Now lets see those Tulips! Lol!! You guys certainly want a companion and no drugs needed.
|2013 July 11 10:07:00 AM (1027)||[A] wwgha link 57. ||Superfly, |
A thousand pardons, making a Tulpa. But why wouldn’t the readers not want to make one? Sounds like jolly good fun. Doesn’t one just need to have an imagination and drugs?
But hey, if you can prove it to me I am more than willing to learn from such brilliant fellas.
Readers, take note. They will offer zero proof, only opinions and lies. They will do it with insults and foul language.
|2013 July 11 02:07:00 AM (1021)||[A] wwgha link 51. ||I absolutely know the truth about prayer and atheists.|
Atheists see prayer as making a wish to Santa. Mot hard to understand. Then they pout when not given their way. Little children react accordingly.
Hey, what is your new Tulips name?1
|2013 July 11 02:07:00 AM (1019)||[A] wwgha link 49. ||Lol!! |
I luv it! I can get all the rabid atheist fired up with one post.
Dippy to place an “order” go talk to Santa, maybe a Taco Bell drive thru. Wanna help your dog, give him away.
Hey, make up a Tulip like Butterfly of whatever he calls himself. All of you should make a Tulip! What fun!
Waiting for proof God doesn’t answer prayer. And no, nit getting a yes in NOT proof.
Begin Tulips! Lol!!!
|2013 July 10 10:07:00 PM (1013)||[A] wwgha link 43. ||How many times must I make it clear I am everyone on the blog! You can stop the diversions now. The Judge, I’m him too!|
I wouldn’t trust Dippy with a dogs butt. I feel his dog will lose his. Lol!!
These guys have been following Santa for Waaayyyy too long. They believe God is their Santa who is inclined to meet their demands. Sigh, the arrogance of atheists.
|2013 July 10 05:07:00 PM (1008)||[Xenon] wwgha link 38. ||Would anyone expect DPK an atheist to be honest? No me neither.|
|2013 July 10 01:07:00 AM (1000)||[A] wwgha link 30. ||40YA, |
Great article. By the NIH no less. Just another hole in the atheist sail.
|2013 July 10 12:07:00 AM (3413)||[A] wwgha link 458. ||Tim, |
Great post! Nobody engages alex here. When you see his name just scroll by it like the rest of us.
Yes, it is circular reasoning along with all the arguments here and yes it is all fallacious. It is fun to pick at it and show others the childish reasoning employed by atheists.
Hope you come back.
|2013 July 08 11:07:00 PM (990)||[A] wwgha link 20. ||Yawn! |
Same old recycled, disproven and dismissed atheist theology. Will atheists develop anything original? It is like the American Atheists group who can’t get by skydaddy and Maria O’Hair stupidity. Yes, they would like us to forget their spiritual founder Mrs O’Hair! Lol!!
|2013 July 04 01:07:00 PM (2301)||[A] wwgha link 183. ||“The intellectual, thinking Atheist should enjoy this challenge” |
40 I guess we don’ have that type of atheists. We have atheists who make up girlfriends named Alexis!
|2013 July 03 11:07:00 PM (2288)||[A] wwgha link 170. ||“IF [ X = true ], THEN [ Object = Valid ]” |
Another great challenge but no atheist here is interested in discussions requiring thought, logic or reason. They are only atheists, thought, logic and reason dies not apply to them as a group any more than Taoism.
I do like the concepts.
|2013 July 02 05:07:00 PM (2276)||[Xenon] wwgha link 158. ||This poster fluttershy is making up a Tulpa to be the best companion ever. He is looking for a name? |
Right, and theist have problems. You might name it “Help me” and hopefully someone will mate.
|2013 July 01 11:07:00 PM (5249)||[A] wwgha link 418. ||Skippy!! |
Did you confuse your threads now???!!!
Yes, I’m sure anyone would mistake my “adoring” and “special” as contempt!!
LoL!!!! Skippy I do love the reasoning. Thanks for the great laugh but you are “off topic” now aren’t you Skippy?
Try to keep you threads straight Skippy or I will have you banned! Lol!!
|2013 July 01 10:07:00 PM (5247)||[A] wwgha link 416. ||Hmmmm, |
LoL!! Dippy reads things into a post like he reads facts into assumptions!
Anyone see anything about women int #412?
Dippy go find you a Charlie Mansion!!
|2013 July 01 08:07:00 PM (2268)||[A] wwgha link 150. ||I thought little girls named themselves after pink magical ponies? Is Butterfly a dude!! |
I adore woman. I have 3 very special ones in my life. They are liked pretty ponies when they were small. I see how Dippy thought Butterfly to be a gal.
|2013 July 01 08:07:00 PM (5245)||[A] wwgha link 414. ||Butterfly |
This is on topic. You need credibility. You have none. When all you have is lame obscenities like some rapper in concert you don’t get have any credibility or a response to your stupid questions. You are here just to be picked at
You are dismissed. Go upstairs and spank yourself
|2013 June 28 08:06:00 PM (2228)||[A] wwgha link 110. ||Lightning striking the oceans does not produce life either so what is one more fairytale?|
|2013 June 28 02:06:00 AM (2222)||[A] wwgha link 104. ||Matt, |
I will allow you to speak for the cavemen. If you say they are atheist and bought such a myth then OK.
DPK thinks I post for everyone on the blog. If I were going to post an idiot sock of the blog as he views you I might call him DPK!! Lol!!
Hmmm, how does that hand feel DPK?
|2013 June 27 07:06:00 PM (2212)||[A] wwgha link 94. ||Sigh! The things atheist believe in today. |
Matt were these cave dwellers atheist? Did they write atheist materials that have survived until today? Was Socrates one of them?
|2013 June 27 12:06:00 PM (2200)||[A] wwgha link 82. ||Matt, |
What writings do we have from the cavemen? What do they tell us?
|2013 June 26 07:06:00 PM (2191)||[A] wwgha link 73. ||Doctors? AIRPLANES? LOL!!! You are high? |
Lets try again on your own scenario. You truly are afraid Dippy. Now answer this. A form of man and dinosaurs did not exist together. Is this truth and a fact?
|2013 June 26 05:06:00 PM (2189)||[A] wwgha link 71. ||Lol!! More diversions. You and Dr Dawkins do not agree? TOE is not fact and it is taught as a lie? So this is truly insanity? So you agree with me Dippy! We have some common ground. |
Now answer this. A form of man and dinosaurs did not exist together. Is this truth and a fact?
|2013 June 26 02:06:00 PM (2186)||[A] wwgha link 68. ||DPK, I accept facts. Is macroevolution fact?|
|2013 June 26 01:06:00 AM (2171)||[A] wwgha link 53. ||Hmmm, so do you believe that TOE should be taught as a FACT in the classroom Dippy? |
You keep dodging along with your buddies and keep changing the subject. Why is that Dippy?
|2013 June 25 09:06:00 PM (2167)||[A] wwgha link 49. ||Once again the claim speciation is well documented and is fact. A simple test, Aaagggaaaiiinnn. Provide facts we can test using the scientific method. We can then put it to rest. |
Prediction: They will not but will ramble on about creationism, Bible, God in order to avoid the inordinate amount of faith they have in nature.
|2013 June 25 07:06:00 PM (2162)||[A] wwgha link 44. ||Deride? Never I have merely asked for proof that will survive the scientific method. |
macro is just Micro that is just allowed to run? Lol, yeah I have heard that one before. So, if alex claims he can swim an Olympic size pool you just assume he can swim the Atlantic Ocean, right?
Think for yourself scrooge.
|2013 June 24 10:06:00 PM (2159)||[A] wwgha link 41. ||Indeed Brian, just as atheist accept macro evolution as true. The can’t prove it but they sure believe it.|
|2013 June 24 07:06:00 PM (2156)||[A] wwgha link 38. ||Box, |
I would argue atheists are worse. Look no further than Korea, China and the former USSR. Start a church, own a Bible and we will kill or imprison you.
|2013 June 24 04:06:00 PM (2152)||[Boz] wwgha link 34. ||Religious folks, outside of Muslims and Atheists allow you to chose what to believe We do see Muslim nations and Atheist nations putting people to death by millions for not believing the state religion. They must brainwash the masses to keep control with threats of death.|
|2013 June 24 01:06:00 PM (2147)||[A] wwgha link 29. ||Martin that was quite funny! It is too easy to get one off on alexander the mouth. I just hope he can’t reproduce all his hate in a spawn. |
Well played sir!
|2013 June 23 10:06:00 PM (2141)||[Martin] wwgha link 23. ||Alex since you have neither you have a lot of free time huh? |
|2013 June 23 07:06:00 PM (2138)||[Martin] wwgha link 20. ||“When people who are religious are allowed to teach children, they often end up indoctrinating the children in nonsense” |
Thomas again embarks upon illogical conclusions. We would need Thomas to share what qualifies as acceptable education but we can be sure a deity who creates is not part of it.
1. The religious family teaches God
Clearly Thomas concludes illogically, foolishly and as a bigot. All parents it could be argued brainwash. Thomas refuses to see his beliefs in this light.
|2013 June 21 04:06:00 PM (2855)||[A] wwgha link 279. ||Pony! Pony! |
Yes, I know you are not the admin. Thanks! Lol!; I know who the admin is and if he wants to ban me I will be fine. I make you uncomfortable pony so you want me eradicated. That is typical for a liberal atheists.
So now you claim atheists have faith? Interesting, when this is voiced by a theist they get quite huffy.
Now, when you atheists show you can judge and understand the nature of evidence, we will proceed. Convince me you are not brainwashed. Now, where is this mountain of evidence for TOE so we can get the scientific method revved up!
|2013 June 21 01:06:00 PM (2851)||[A] wwgha link 275. ||Butterfly, |
You will ban me? Lol!!! That is the best one yet on WWGHA. Exactly what they claim 40 does on his site. Is that how you handle dissenters my little pony?
That is do rich! Listen pony, banning me doesn’t change mousey’s appeal to authority or his inability to sustain TOE using the scientific method. Until then, how can you test God, his actions or the very existence? Hmmm? The scientific method? Nope, you tossed it out the window.
This is why he resorts to angry outbursts, f bombs and alexisms. He has been exposed as a creature of faith. Atheists hate that.
Prove me wrong.
|2013 June 21 03:06:00 AM (2842)||[A] wwgha link 266. ||Lol!! You guys losing composure on a blog is quite amusing. |
I never realized asking for facts was presenting an alternative? I don’t believe I even claimed TOE was not a possibility. Your anger has caused you to lose all rationality.
So do you (3) thinking individuals have varying opinions on TOE or is it fact? More likely, you will offer nothing to explain the conflicting claims.
nite nite mousey..
|2013 June 21 02:06:00 AM (2840)||[A] wwgha link 264. ||Hmmm, 3 different views on TOE which is SUPPOSE to fact!! |
I guess you already settled the matter. Your opinion is TOE is tue and you indeed exercise faith to believe it OR your fellow atheits are idiots?
I love it mousey, when backed into a corner you become alex. Ironically, no surprise here.
so will you be presenting the evidence or no? Why won’t you answer mousey?
|2013 June 20 10:06:00 PM (2836)||[A] wwgha link 260. ||Who knows? I know. It has EveryThing to do with brainwashing. You believe with no proof because you have been indoctinated. You are the modern flatearthers. You know it does not hold up to the scientific method yet your ilk calls it fact. However, you demand proof and facts from theist. |
And we are suppose to submit evidence for your approval? Please! Stop being so phallacious. Lol!
Not provide some evidence so we can get to work.
|2013 June 20 09:06:00 PM (2833)||[A] wwgha link 257. ||Now DPK claims DNA did evolve. Atheists, why are there such differing opinions among you when this is suppose to fact? You 3 can’t even agree on DNAs history. Right! |
Alex can only curse and use the f bombs like punctuation. Hard to believe he is that big a mess. Mosey, DPK is alex’s behavior morally acceptable? Are his phallacies acceptable?
still waiting for a few bits we can’t test together as a group. It should be fun!
|2013 June 20 07:06:00 PM (2828)||[A] wwgha link 252. ||Summerize: |
Atheist believe DNA did not evolve? Wait! That means there must be another process at work?, So who/what wrote this incredible high information code? How did it come together???? Did the Bang write the code? I thought all living creatures evolved atheists?
Butterfly, learn what sarcasm is. Surely on MLP they have taught you that much.
Now about all this evidence for macro evolution. Where us it? Lets get in here so we can apply the scientific method. Hint: Has nothing to do planetary orbits or age of the universe or rocks! Lol!!
|2013 June 20 11:06:00 AM (2820)||[A] wwgha link 244. ||Butterfly, |
lol!! You do not believe DNA evolved. Let’s check with mousey. So, did a turtle write the program? A whale?. I don’t think mousey will agree. He just will not answer.
Butter Jain is an atheist religion. How did you determine not to be Jain or Taoist?
still waiting for all this proof for macro evolution so we can apply the scientific method to it….. Naming disciplines of study is not proof.
|2013 June 20 01:06:00 AM (2815)||[A] wwgha link 239. ||Mousey! |
Tell you what. You answer my questions I have asked numerous times and I will chose 3 of you questions. How is that? Are you willing to take the risk?
sorry, but you proved yourself untrustworthy with the age of the earth question and now you must go first.
Start with how did DNA evolve? Use the scientific method. It did evolve, right? And evolution is fact, yes?
How did you chose your flavor of atheism? Why not Jain?
Then, provide some evidence for macro evolution which we can test with the scientific method.
Lets see if you are honest or are concerned more with a gotcha.
|2013 June 19 06:06:00 PM (2810)||[A] wwgha link 234. ||“A is terrified” |
I know I know I am so frightened! What will we do!? I think DPK is serious. LoL!!
LoL!! Thanks Alex. I knew I could make you speak.
You guys are great fun. If 40 drops by or if our blog host drops by with something fresh. I might work in a few witty observations
|2013 June 19 04:06:00 PM (2807)||[A] wwgha link 231. ||I am so pleased alex is not afraid to speak his mind. He more than anything proves the the case against atheism. |
Thank you alex, pleas respond to me with more hate-filled rants!
|2013 June 18 04:06:00 AM (2798)||[A] wwgha link 222. ||“a?, castbound, curmudgeon, martin, xenonm messy, 40ya are simply doing drive-by and diversionary posts. They are 100% trolling” |
Translation: I can’t answer the question so I rant!
lol!!! What is 100% trolling? Can one troll at 30%?
|2013 June 17 10:06:00 AM (2790)||[A] wwgha link 214. ||Mousey, when that has been completed. Please show us the process you chose to accept your flavor of atheism. Why not Taoism, Jain, Raelian, Buddhism or variants of Hinduism? |
Again, history shows there will be no answer forthcoming and a quick change of the subject and alex ranting like a madman! LOL!!!
|2013 June 17 10:06:00 AM (2789)||[A] wwgha link 213. ||“However, faced with having to actually provide answers and to back them up with logic and facts” |
Will you now do this with TOE, or will you continue to show your brainwashing Mousey?
Mousey, show us how DNA evolved to be the complex set of code it is today. Remember, to not be brainwashed you need to provide facts and logic.
History says Mousey will not and quickly AGAIN, change the subject.
LOL, pierced with your own sword!
|2013 June 16 08:06:00 PM (2779)||[Martin] wwgha link 203. ||?Why would ANYONE listen to a message like that? Why worship a torturer?? |
Let?s look at the logic of the atheist mentality here.
1.The verse says the unbeliever will be punished
2.The atheist decides this is torture (not in the text)
3.The atheist has decided they are ?good?.
4.The atheists decides not to believe
5.The atheist will face the punishment for sin.
Here is the parallel.
1.The gun owner says don?t break in my house or I will shoot you
2.The atheist decides not to believe what has been warned.
3.The atheist decides they are ?good? and deserve the owner?s property
4.The atheists breaks in anyhow
5.The atheist faces the punishment and is shot.
The evangelist is actually the caring one for warning against a punishment he/she believes is valid. This is the logical thing to do.
|2013 June 16 05:06:00 PM (2775)||[A] wwgha link 199. ||40 years, |
I wasn’t aware atheism is patriotic. They are just full of delusions. Giving more money to the IRS Nazis is patriotic too. seems this patriotism is much like all their other claims. Just say it and that in turn makes it true.
Wait! Wait! I’m having a flashback…….Got it! From my days as a brainwashed college student. Atheism good……Atheism good. Lol!! I know you can relate 40 years. It takes courage and strength to overcome the brainwashing. Time for the followers to come back with mindless talking points and continue with zero answers.
|2013 June 15 03:06:00 AM (2749)||[A] wwgha link 173. ||LoL!! Wow!! Watching the rants of a crazy cult is quite entertaing. You know…..how the vast majority is crazy and they are the only sane ones on the planet!! Then there is crazy Uncle Alex the family keeps the kids away from. |
Find peace within the family boys. You obviously will never examine yourselves for the nut jobs you are. Well……maybe after you mature some.
|2013 June 14 10:06:00 PM (2738)||[A] wwgha link 162. ||Oh Depak, you keep selling yourself the delusion that Taoism, Jain, Buddhism, forms of Hinduism Raelins (my favorite)and atheist churches, ministers do not exist. All atheist and willing to have you. It is how your deluded minds get you through the day. |
And lying as you have is the lowest of low. You think quite a bit of yourself to redefine atheism for the entire atheist believing community. Shameful!
|2013 June 14 08:06:00 PM (2732)||[A] wwgha link 156. ||Lol!! I am dodging? No, I am using the exact same tactic you use. You refuse to answer why you reject atheist religions. Why should I play into your silliness? You must give to get. |
Mousey, you are king of Never Ever answering a question.
|2013 June 14 07:06:00 PM (2729)||[A] wwgha link 153. ||Lol!! Well as much as I like being your king I must decline!! |
Got a handle on how you chose your version of atheism? Why don’t you attend church with other atheists?
|2013 June 14 05:06:00 PM (2727)||[A] wwgha link 151. ||I am a dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient in the area of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I write award-winning operas. I manage time efficiently. |
Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row. I woo women with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing. I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook 30-minute brownies in 20 minutes.
I play bluegrass cello. I was scouted by the Mets. I am the subject of numerous documentaries. When I?m bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard. I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after work, I repair electrical appliances free of charge.
My sharp sense of science and my undeniable acceptance of logic has led me to an inevitable life of theism. I refuse to let others do my thinking and I question all dogmas thrust upon me to the void.
I also know that forms of Hinduism and Buddhism are atheistic in nature and still question why some atheists refuse to accept them as their own dogma? Fact is, the ONLY thing any theist must by definition have in common with any other theist is the realization that there is a God.
|2013 June 14 04:06:00 PM (2724)||[A] wwgha link 148. ||DPK my “flavor” was picked by the same means you picked your flavor of atheism. What are you? |
whadda ya have Depak?
|2013 June 13 08:06:00 PM (2708)||[A] wwgha link 132. ||Crum Raelians is a good one. I forgot about those whack jobs since their love child. |
why are there so many religious denominations under atheism? Then we just have the regular atheist church and many atheist who just attend the Universalist church. How do you guys decide or are all of these atheists just brainwashed?
|2013 June 13 06:06:00 PM (2701)||[A] wwgha link 125. ||“Your ADD is kicking again A. The topic is ?brainwashing? as an important tool in religious belief.” |
I know. Why do those nut job atheists embrace such a brainwashed group like Buddhists? They are atheists, they must be sharper than that, yes?
I will not claim all variants of Buddhism are atheist, but I do know the prevalent form in Thailand and Myanmar is atheistic. Whats up with those nuts French Fry and DPK? What about the Jains and Taoist?
|2013 June 13 10:06:00 AM (2689)||[A] wwgha link 113. ||Buddhism denies the existence of an eternal omnipotent God who is the creator and ordainer of the world. |
Stop denying the brethren Mouse. Embrace the Jains and the Taoist too. Why are these atheists such nut jobs?
|2013 June 13 02:06:00 AM (2687)||[A] wwgha link 111. ||So French-fry, |
Did you figure out Buddhists are atheists? Why do those nut job atheists embrace such a brainwashed group like Buddhists? They are atheists, they must be sharper than that, yes?
|2013 June 12 05:06:00 PM (2675)||[A] wwgha link 99. ||Butterfly, |
Buddhists Are atheists you wild little pony. So is Taoism, Jain among some others. Lol!! You are a funny little pony but I know you are very young and not highly recommended educated.
This is why I tried to help you out on another thread. You really should deserve judgment on others when you still say such stupid things.
|2013 June 12 10:06:00 AM (2665)||[A] wwgha link 89. ||EW, mousey and Butterfly have ganged up to play bad cop and crazy cop so they will not have to provide evidence for TOE. |
I understand mousey. You are the frustrated mid on the playground who cannot make it in the classroom so you try to make the playground your domain.
LoL!! What a sad display. Mosey is just another alex when pinned against the wall.
|2013 June 12 01:06:00 AM (2659)||[A] wwgha link 83. ||Did you mean @81? |
Ew, you getting so nasty and frisky!! Lol!!
Provide some evidence or some proof and we can analyze to see what it implies? Whadda ya think musketeer, can ya handle that?
Never Ever sounds very familiar? Lou????
Actually I answered the age of the earth but you failed to live up to your side of the bargain. Will you answer a question now? History says nope!!
|2013 June 11 11:06:00 PM (2657)||[A] wwgha link 81. ||Abiogenesis card? LoL!!! |
My interpretation of data? What data? You have yet to provide anything? Would you be referring to Mars water mousey?
would this request for my interpretation indicate you have nothing to offer? Are you yelling Uncle?
|2013 June 11 05:06:00 PM (2653)||[A] wwgha link 77. ||Mousey, yawn! |
Lets start simple and small. Give us some solid proof. DNA evolved from ________?
stating fields of study is not proof lol!! Are you really this ignorant?
|2013 June 11 12:06:00 PM (2649)||[A] wwgha link 73. ||Seriously? You still can’t understand the point? |
My point is one is backed with observable data that is testable and falsifiable using the scientific method. My next point is you and mousey refuse to produce evidence that will do the same for TOE.
So? Where is it?
Challenging me to look at my side is just a diversion. I did it long ago young man and it contains no magic. That would be TOE you believe in.
|2013 June 11 11:06:00 AM (2647)||[A] wwgha link 71. ||“Same goes for Evolution, all evidence points to it being real” |
AWWKKKK! Better luck next time. However, good to see you looked up the frequency of gamma rays. We can measure and verify the frequency of gamma rays. E tu Brute, it actually passes the scientific method. TOE does not as you and mousey have made so clear.
Read the post from 40ya. You will learn something.
|2013 June 11 10:06:00 AM (2645)||[A] wwgha link 69. ||40 ya |
It is amazing the lengths some will go to in order to protect the dogma. Still waiting for some facts to truly make TOE a fact.
Butterfly is the frequency of gamma rays personal preference too? Lol!!
|2013 June 10 10:06:00 PM (2632)||[A] wwgha link 56. ||The pope doesn”t believe in TOE? Butterfly you do make me laugh. I think you will find he is all in. As a politician he has to buy in. Besides, it takes much less faith to believe in TOE. |
As you said, TOE is not science, its just a personal preference. Me, I need some significant proof.
|2013 June 10 01:06:00 AM (2610)||[A] wwgha link 34. ||“The White House and the media has brain washed most our the U.S. Citizens in believing we have a real terrorist problem in our country.” |
Uh, oh we have a conspiracy theorist. And the early church wrote the entire Bible, aged it, wrote 30,000 ancient manuscripts and brainwashed the masses to think it was really old with many authors so they could control the masses!
|2013 June 10 01:06:00 AM (2608)||[A] wwgha link 32. ||“I wonder what makes religious people believe such absurd nonsense, if not brain washing?” |
John Boy to understand you can parallel this with TOE.
Why do atheists believe TOE in the macro form? Because it was in science books and taught by guys with letters after their name. Its not because it is supported by the scientific method.
Why do Christians believe in God? Because it is in the Bible and taught by guys with letters after their name. Its not because it is supported by the scientific method.
So the question becomes do accept one or both by faith? One claims to be science while the other never pretends to be science. Then you must make the call, does science really provide truth?
|2013 June 08 08:06:00 PM (3401)||[A] wwgha link 446. ||Mousey you heard it here fist. Butterfly has told us TOE is personal opinion. Mousey has acknowledged disbelievers are not ignorant, TOE is just a personal opinion. So past personal attacks fron alex/mousey don’t really hold water. |
Thanks for clearing that all up. TOE is not science, history or truth, it is just opinion.
I thought you guys would hold to the dogma more vehemently than that.
|2013 June 08 02:06:00 PM (3394)||[A] wwgha link 439. ||Mousey, |
Did you see Buuterfly’s post? He says all atheists don’t believe in TOE. Why is that? I thought it was fact so why would their be atheists who don’t buy into TOE? Does this enrage you mousey? Ate they ignorant? What would you say to these holdouts?
Your ilk is a very confused bunch.
|2013 June 08 12:06:00 AM (3378)||[A] wwgha link 423. ||Lol!! Oh Mousey! You got backed into a corner and now it is a fallacy to get out of our discussion. |
Is TOE history or science mousey? You came this far, don’t quit now!
How many beliefs do you have based on what others tell you rather than thinking for yourself?
Butterfly Butterfly! Where did you fly off to?
|2013 June 07 09:06:00 PM (3375)||[A] wwgha link 420. ||Mousey, |
I apologize, I have give you entirely too much credit.
Let me understand. Do you understand the difference between history and science? Which does TOE fit under? Focus, stay on topic this time.
Second, do you believe TOE actually compete with another? Lol!! Do you know the difference between an apple and a tree”
|2013 June 07 08:06:00 PM (3372)||[A] wwgha link 417. ||Butterfly, |
IF they are obvious then why is it that not you nor mouse will produce any proof? Typing the word fossil or DNA is not proof. Dead things sometimes leave fossils. Cells have codes called DNA. So how are those proof of TOE.
what is truly hilarious is you are the same guys continually calling for proof of God yet I don’t believe you understand the nature of proof.
Lets see what you come up with Butterfly.
|2013 June 07 06:06:00 PM (3369)||[A] wwgha link 414. ||Mousey, if the scientific method is not or cannot be applied to test a position then it is not possible to spot likely errors in that position. Without the ability to spot inaccuracy, one position cannot be said to be stronger or weaker than any other position. All faiths or theories become equivalent. |
Then you have the politicizing and biases that come with TOE. Scientist are expected to TOE the line on this position to satisfy the community in which they work and play. Many do just to move up the ladders of their profession. They don’t really believe.
The next time Richard Dawkins come out and calls this theory fact, do yourself a favor and seriously examine what is fact and what is faith. That takes courage because your worldview depends on TOE being true.
I won’t ask for proof any longer. You have proven my point.
|2013 June 07 04:06:00 PM (3364)||[A] wwgha link 409. ||Oh mosey more diversions. God does need your approval but you constantly ask. |
This is strictly for the process to show you have no proof for TOE but you believe in faith. Is is this bad that you can’t provide just (1) piece of evidence?
Your personal insults are only more diversions to deflect your faith in the TOE. It seems you need to engage in some research to overcome the ignorance.
(sigh!). oops I think others have sighed here. More calms of puppetry coming….lol!!
|2013 June 07 03:06:00 PM (3362)||[A] wwgha link 407. ||Oh mouse, get off the pope. Just another diversion. Apology accepted, lol!! |
Again you fail. I have no need to demolish anything util it is built. You have not built a case.
TOE is built on many assumptions, “might haves” even some guesses. I actually laughed when you chose DNA since it does what to help your case?
I know independent thinker piss off the herd but I am willing to change when a solid scientific case is provided. TOE is science right?
|2013 June 07 02:06:00 PM (3360)||[A] wwgha link 405. ||Mousey, |
God is not science nor a theory so you can determine how to falsify his existence. Good luck!
Appeals to a pope is not proof. Rejected.
Yes, you need to go on. Lets pick one, DNA. How does DNA prove TOE is true?
Remember I do want to believe but the scientific method must be adhered to.
|2013 June 07 12:06:00 PM (3358)||[A] wwgha link 403. ||Mousey back with diversions of puppets. Mouse I already confessed to be everyone so let it be or leave. |
Now share some of this massive amounts of facts and evidence that backs the TOE.
prediction: mouse can’t and will not.
|2013 June 06 11:06:00 AM (2914)||[A] wwgha link 31. ||“How is that relevant to anything?” |
Butterfly I was only trying to get Cur to be easy on you. It explains your inability to construct valid points. Very much like your inability to explain why you believe in things you cannot prove but call yourself an atheist.
Next, you don’t even know want the current big bang model looks like. You defend old ones. You remain ignorant and defend your ignorance because you believe what others tell you without question.
On the current thread, yes we should treat brain dead radical fundies who want to kill and destroy their perceived opposition.
I wanted to comment so mousey doesn’t go postal.
Good day & Crikey and all that goes with that.
|2013 June 06 01:06:00 AM (3351)||[Xenon] wwgha link 396. ||Atheists like to use this false conclusion that because someone believes is God they claim God did it and do not practice science. It is untrue and the vast majority of scientist who have been some sort of theists throughout history prove their claim is untrue. Why can’t atheist make arguments that are honest? |
As for evolution or speciation, it is not provable or falsifiable therefore it does not meet the definition of observable science. It is fine as a theory but anyone who claims it to be fact or truth is just dishonest.
|2013 June 05 09:06:00 PM (3348)||[A] wwgha link 393. ||Butterfly, |
Why do you need to reference the Bible to prove macro evolution? Why is this so hard for you if it is the truth? I have not made one reference to the Bible but it seems to be the only out for you and mousey. The only diddit here is your evolution-diddit and that is not science.
Squirming like mousey Butterfly?
|2013 June 05 11:06:00 AM (2910)||[A] wwgha link 27. ||Cur |
He is only a teenager
|2013 June 05 11:06:00 AM (3342)||[A] wwgha link 387. ||Butterfly, |
You have been silent. Show me this armor that will stand up to the scientific method.
I want to believe!
But alas, you have nothing, right?
Way to lose you cool. You religion gets you fired up!
|2013 June 05 01:06:00 AM (3337)||[A] wwgha link 382. ||LOL!!!!, my worldview will crumble if TOE is true? Hardly! Show me the proof mousey and I will buy in slick. |
You are willing to relearn? LOL!!! No, you are the classic elitist. It will never happen. You have no clue why you believe in macro evolution but you blindly follow.
To be fair, my POV is the jury is still out. Men get crime scenes wrong that are only an hour old so I remain skeptical any man can tell me what process God used to put man on this blue planet.
|2013 June 05 12:06:00 AM (3335)||[A] wwgha link 380. ||“There?s always a minority fringe element to any completely bulletproof Theory” |
LOL!!, yes it is so bulletproof you can provide one piece of armor.
LOL!!, why must I have something in order to support your worldview? If your belief is bulletproof it should stand on its own, no?
I don’t think you know why you believe it other than it has to be true or your entire worldview will crumble. Me? If there is solid proof then great! I’ll buy in. It has no impact on my worldview.
|2013 June 04 04:06:00 PM (3330)||[A] wwgha link 375. ||Lets see why Mouse is a fierce supporter of TOE. He does so because smart people told him to do so. His kind we should worry about. They don’t think and allow others to do their thinking. |
I bought the propaganda during my years of education. I grew up and practiced independent thought and realized the theory lacked real science and real substance. This is why our Mouse cannot provide any proof. Now all he has is lame attempts at insults.
It is so sad.
Mouse what do you have on the abiogenesis front?
|2013 June 04 12:06:00 AM (3318)||[A] wwgha link 363. ||40 your analysis is spot on and is why our Faith Mouse refuses to provide any evidence for his religion using the Scientific Method. I want to highlight this statement: |
“The falsification of evolution is ignored and derided: it is falsified by its lack of deductive, predictive capability in the actual, real science of biology.”
This statement shows why Faith Mouse will not provide any proof:
“Physics works with precision (Newtonian anyway), that gives credibility to evolution. That is the weakest Appeal To Authority possible. When evolution can predict future consequence of evolution, rather than merely predict other instances of induction, then and only then will it be on a par with physics”
This is where the Religion arise for the atheists. Evolution must be true because their atheism is true: LOL!!
“The reason is that they they have accepted the unsupportable Principle Of Materialism, and they have done that without either evidence or logic for its validity. It is thus a religious belief, a faith without evidence or reasoning.”
I wonder is the atheist elite are attempting to usher in another bloodbath?
|2013 June 03 11:06:00 PM (3312)||[A] wwgha link 357. ||“Whoa there, buckaroo. No proof? How can you say that?” |
How? Quite simple really, You have offered none. Come on slick, do you have one piece of evidence you can offer as the smoking gun? Afraid to share it mousey?
|2013 June 03 08:06:00 PM (3309)||[A] wwgha link 354. ||Mouse welcome to world of faith when you can believe in a worldview with absolutely no proof. So much for being s young man who only believes that which can be proven, eh? Your proof is the names of men, really? The same type of men YOU call delusional? Lol!!! |
I never questioned your premise of men and dinosaurs, only the fallacy with which you use to defend it. You would think atheist would understand the scientific method. But sadly, no..
Now, again, where is that evidence you had that disproves God?
|2013 June 03 11:06:00 AM (3297)||[A] wwgha link 342. ||“That?s OK, I am good.” |
I’m sure you are. What you have is what your call “Truth” (sic)but you are unable to verify it with the scientific method? What you really have mouse is Faith. Its OK, don’t run from the word. Just be mouse enough to admit it. I see now why you avoided this with such gusto.
Then we have butterfly backing his argument with the fallacy of absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
Can’t the materialist atheists defend anything without resorting to fallacies?
|2013 June 03 02:06:00 AM (3294)||[A] wwgha link 339. ||“Evolution is not only truth for some atheists, it?s also truth for theists” |
Great! Lets see you prove it, using the scientific method. If it is Truth and everything is material, well then, this should be easy short work for you.
Don’t hold back, bring the noise. Lets start my healing process Mouse! LOL!!
Although, I never stated anywhere is wasn’t truth. Sounds like you are not to sure about what you believe Mousey?
|2013 June 02 06:06:00 PM (3289)||[A] wwgha link 334. ||Anony the Mouse is still dodging the questions. He doesn’t eve know what macroevolution means. That’s funny, my spell checker recognized it. One atheist once said micro was proof of macro. Guess he can’t produce. |
Take Toffler’s words to heart Mouse.
|2013 June 02 12:06:00 PM (3277)||[A] wwgha link 322. ||“You made a claim that there are 4-5 different creation interpretations” |
Ummmmmmm, I don’t think so but I’m glad you are here.
Still waiting for you to show some integrity and answer these questions.
How did life evolve from non-life?
Thanks Anony the Mouse. Its time to “Man Up”.
Butterfly the Pony Guy,
“I dont need to defend it, it already has enough proof.”
Good lets see it! Words like rocks, fossils and carbon are not proof. This might make it easier. How does your “proof” (sic) support evolution and eliminate God? Please use the scientific method and show your work.
|2013 June 01 09:06:00 PM (3267)||[A] wwgha link 312. ||Butterfly the pony starts with all joking aside and comes with more jokes |
When you are ready to defend macro evolution using the scientific method we will begin to take you seriously.
No Bible no magic for you to use as a diversion.
I think you are every bit as intelligent as Butterfly the pony guy.
|2013 June 01 12:06:00 PM (3256)||[A] wwgha link 301. ||Butterfly you must be tired from all the running. I asked you (again) some questions in 279 but you refuse to answer |
Evolution-diddit your answer for all thongs? Where’s the proof my boy? Impossible to debate this magic man.
|2013 May 31 06:05:00 PM (3235)||[Xenon] wwgha link 280. ||Fluttershy thinks all Christians interpret Genesis literally. He is completely unaware there are 4-5 ways The creation account is interpreted. But that is fewer than the number or evolution or Big Bang models we have. |
It is sort of comical he thinks somehow he has disproved God. Its kind of cute really.
|2013 May 31 06:05:00 PM (3234)||[A] wwgha link 279. ||Again with you disproved God? |
Well, lets have it! But I am certain it is more lies. Stop with the diversions and lay out proof. Hint: attacking the Bible is not proof God does not exist. We will even assume the Bible is wrong.
Nodody claimed goddit. You have claimed evolutiondiddit so put up or shut up!
Hint: look up the scientific method. Any less you fail. Alex and DPK can’t help you.
|2013 May 31 03:05:00 PM (3232)||[A] wwgha link 277. ||Butterfly |
You lie and now you refuse to provide evidence for something you claim is fact.
You and Matt might be puppets but st least Matt is honest.
Learn what the scientific method is before you graduate high school. What you proved is things lived and died in the past. Thanks!
|2013 May 31 02:05:00 PM (3228)||[A] wwgha link 273. ||Butter, |
so you admit it DOES NOT disprove God although you claimed it did. Another lie.
I did not say macro evolution is fake, I asked for proof. Please, do not use microevolution as your proof. You will want to use the scientific method to be sure.
|2013 May 31 12:05:00 PM (3224)||[A] wwgha link 269. ||Butterfly, |
Tell me how evolution disproves God? Second show me me the proof of macroevolution.
Since you admit you believe your stories in faith, you cannot call them facts. I know atheist hate the f word but that is what you and the others have to believe as you do.
|2013 May 30 11:05:00 PM (3215)||[A] wwgha link 260. ||Matt, |
when you invoke ad homemim you lose Matt. Your atheist theories must be based on facts since you claim all that exists is material in nature. If not, you are believing in faith. You are better than anonymous. Go ahead and provide some evidence. I want to believe.
Nothing is now Something is earth shattering. The pasting Krauss took from Craig at NC ST really shook him up.
|2013 May 30 10:05:00 AM (3208)||[A] wwgha link 253. ||Matt, do you see? Anonymous is no more than a troll. Maybe you can do better. You seem willing to answer a few easy questions.|
|2013 May 30 01:05:00 AM (3203)||[A] wwgha link 248. ||Hi Anonymous |
Good to see you are awake. Here is your opportunity to prove you are not a troll.
How did life evolve from non-life?
To make it easy, assume I don’t buy into abiogenesis. I’m glad to see you do. Go ahead and prove it to me using the scientific method. Don’t disappoint, answer a few questions….for once.
This will be fun Matt! But watch, he will not do his part.
To speed it along:
Age of Earth? What is the going number now, 4.6Bil?
|2013 May 30 01:05:00 AM (3201)||[A] wwgha link 246. ||Matt, |
Dude you have some serious faith. Ignore Anonymous, he is a troll. I have repeatedly confessed to him I am everyone on this blog but he continues to play with puppets. He is obsessed.
I have some much better questions that don’t feed into his fallacy of absence of evidence equals evidence of absence.
I have listened to atheists claim that anything is possible given enough time but you are the first to carry it to this level.
Let me ask, how did life evolve from non-life? You can’t just claimed it happened, you must provide some proof it DID evolve from non-living matter.
Second, who or what wrote the DNA code? Many atheists have become theists based on DNA alone. Are you one of the atheists who believes nature wrote this code?
|2013 May 29 12:05:00 AM (3184)||[A] wwgha link 229. ||“like the immortal monkeys pounding randomly on typewriters will eventually produce the Encyclopedia Britannica,” |
HAHAHAHAHA along with immortal typewriters and ink! HA HA HA
Your theory is every bit as plausible at DIPs or life and human beings being birthed out of hot soup.
|2013 May 28 11:05:00 AM (3175)||[A] wwgha link 220. ||So Matt, did the volcanos design the cars too? Maybe you could give us a step by step process in nature that would bring us the vehicle. How does it get the fuzzy dice? |
You are at least consistent. Your brethren are running from your car theory but have no problem with life and man being born in hot soup.
|2013 May 27 11:05:00 PM (3166)||[A] wwgha link 211. ||Matt |
so you and anonymous both believe vehicles will be manufactured by nature now. I admit that sounds appealing. Save us a lot of money.
How do you guys see this process going down? I look forward to learning!
|2013 May 27 04:05:00 PM (3161)||[A] wwgha link 206. ||Seems right for your ilk Matt. Ferraris and Fiskers will wash ashore if we just wait long enough. |
You guys and your fairy tales tickle me.
|2013 May 27 03:05:00 AM (3153)||[Martin] wwgha link 198. ||Anonymous you must learn how to analyze logic if you desire to provide an analysis |
1. Martin has proof for God
If you would like proofs for God to argue against just pick one of the stand bys you typically use. That should be fun for you.
I apologize for the ad homenim. Your sensitivity was not anticipated. I don’t use those familiar to you from the atheist community like MF or F*.
If you give me proofs from Buddhism I will give you proofs for these other religions. Would this encompass both of us offering proofs for Buddhism???
|2013 May 27 12:05:00 AM (3148)||[Martin] wwgha link 193. ||Anonymous I already know the truth so I’m good. Share my evidence? I will share the answer just like you and others share answers to questions. You just want to poke fun so go ahead. |
And as well, I don’t need your approval of my proofs just stick with your existing labels. I’m good. Why would you want me to shove my beliefs down your throat. Gotcha.
What I will do when I have time is point out the logical fallacies when you and others present them.
|2013 May 26 07:05:00 PM (3143)||[Martin] wwgha link 188. ||We have levitation and regenerating limb as proof. However this would not convince Atheists God exists This would be credited to evolution by Atheists. God knows the heart. They didn’t believe Jesus when he completed miracles and Atheists wouldn’t believe either.|
I have already seen the miracles that proves God’s existence and need no further proof. Thanks for asking. I didn’t even need Michael”s videotape.
|2013 May 26 01:05:00 AM (3134)||[Martin] wwgha link 179. ||Thank you DPK.|
|2013 May 26 01:05:00 AM (3133)||[Martin] wwgha link 178. ||“someone would have caught a miracle on videotape.” |
Michael one reason is few use videotape any longer. However, what would you see on “videotape” that would be evidence?
|2013 May 25 07:05:00 PM (3122)||[A] wwgha link 167. ||DIP its true, you can’t win. You will never outfox God. Keep trying, maybe you will get it eventually.|
|2013 May 25 07:05:00 PM (3121)||[A] wwgha link 166. ||DIP is an angry little guy. Frustration with his limited intellect and now lashes out with violence. Violence is part of that stellar atheist morality. |
How sad for him and those who must tolerate him.
|2013 May 25 02:05:00 AM (3102)||[Martin] wwgha link 147. ||Lets examine DPK’s logic. |
A.DPK has a choice of X or Y
Naturally, the logic does not follow. No man can know what the deity knows therefore Lou’s decision has not been predetermined. The deity makes options available but the foreknowledge could be X or Y.
Secondly, we cannot know if the deity purposely decides not to have this knowledge available. This would be like parents expecting a baby but refuse to be told the gender.
DPK’s position does not hold up.
|2013 May 24 07:05:00 PM (3092)||[A] wwgha link 137. ||Butterfly, |
You should remain silent rather than showing stupidity. Nothing built, designed or created survives forever. That does not imply bad design. No, DNA manipulation will not lead to living forever. The universe will have an end. Fearing death my little horsey?
No, lol!!, not looking to learn from you unless it is about ponies.
|2013 May 24 02:05:00 PM (3080)||[A] wwgha link 125. ||Freddie |
You are dead. There is no contradiction. Lol!!!!
You got that proof for Socrates yet? Lol!!!!
If the universe can be eternal (sic), why can’t God?
Can you find some scientist wh believe the universe can be eternal?
|2013 May 24 11:05:00 AM (3074)||[A] wwgha link 119. ||“Atheist deny this fact or they just remain ignorant clinging to order from chaos. Nice observation 40.” |
The Atheists attempt to massage this away. They say idiotic things like the human body is not well designed and anything is possible given enough time.
In other words they deny everything we observe in the real world and claim just they opposite happened for origins. Anything to deny the obvious.
Meanwhile Butterfly has been proven wrong again. Apparently something can exist with no physical proof. Socrates, Oort clouds and logic just to name a few.
|2013 May 23 08:05:00 PM (3061)||[Xenon] wwgha link 106. ||“what part of it is circular?” |
Michael none of it is circular. 40YA offers a very good analysis of the nature of proof and evidence. Reality is always dependent on empirical data. Anonymous does not understand it therefore he must denounce it rather than deal with it.
The inability to defend the existence of Socrates fits well into what 40YA has laid out. We only have the writings of others. Yet, no sane person denies he existed.
|2013 May 23 01:05:00 AM (3046)||[A] wwgha link 91. ||Oh no he didn’t! DIP Clause complaining about Socrates? DIP are you not Santa’s public relations man? !!!! |
|2013 May 23 01:05:00 AM (3045)||[A] wwgha link 90. ||Anony the Mouse, |
It seems Butterfly and DPK ran from the question. Your track record is terrible, but maybe you can provide physical proof for Socrates? You wouldn’t expect something for God you can’t offer for Socrates would you?
How about physical proof for Oort Clouds, Abiogenesis, Panspermia? Just pick one. We need to establish what level of physical proof is acceptable.
Do you go to blogs and and complain to the scientist that they can’t provide proof?
This will let us know if you are serious or just a troll.
|2013 May 22 05:05:00 PM (3034)||[A] wwgha link 79. ||Look Butterfly, you had two come to your defense. Prove them wrong. Show us physical proof for Socrates existence. In order to be true it must exist.|
|2013 May 22 02:05:00 PM (3031)||[A] wwgha link 76. ||Butterfly believes Socrates existed but cannot provide proof. Therefore your request that physical proof must be provided to prove God’s existence is moot. You are right. Your question has zero to do with the topic. You have no grasp concerning the nature of evidence.|
|2013 May 22 11:05:00 AM (3025)||[A] wwgha link 70. ||Don”t dodge the question Butterfly. If we are suppose to be provide physical evidence for God then you should be able to do it for such a well known figure as Socrates. You asking others to do what you will not?|
Get Oyster yo help you.
|2013 May 22 11:05:00 AM (3021)||[A] wwgha link 66. ||Physical evidence Flutter? Is this measuring stick to prove everything? |
Well alright then. Prove Socrates existed.
What is the oyster saying Butterfly.
Ignore the troll that is Anti Mouse. He asks loaded questions to save his fellow atheist. Watch him scramble to save Butterfly.
|2013 May 21 08:05:00 PM (3004)||[A] wwgha link 49. ||I had to buy tires today. I blame global cooling/warming (pick one) and want Obama to reimburse me. I hear the cooling theory is back and want to cover my bases. |
DIP not reproducing sounds like a great action plan.
|2013 May 20 07:05:00 PM (2979)||[Xenon] wwgha link 24. ||Click the link labeled “here” at the top. Some of the most brain dead commentary one you will ever read. Why are those who claim God is not real the most possessed by the topic? Those who believe don’t discuss it as much.|
|2013 May 20 06:05:00 PM (2976)||[A] wwgha link 21. ||Lol!!! Fitefly I am the one calling others sock puppets? LOL!! The idea came from you atheists who waste time on the diversion. I figured if I accept the label you guys might be satisfied. |
But your posts directed me to stay on topic and the dopey Chris was part of the topic. Try clicking the link Firefly before you type out another diversion.
|2013 May 20 12:05:00 PM (2973)||[A] wwgha link 18. ||Butterfly, |
sigh! Butter, if you had read the thread you would know who Chris was. Hint: Its NOT a poster! Lol!! My post is about the topic and was given tongue-in-cheek. (look it up)
Normally ignore that but just too funny.
|2013 May 20 05:05:00 AM (2967)||[A] wwgha link 12. ||I think Chris is alex’s puppet. How did that become a thread? Slow atheist news cycle. Why not stat one on Dawkins chauvinism?|
|2013 May 20 12:05:00 AM (2964)||[Biff] wwgha link 9. ||I think his name is Christopher Fool. That was the stupidest thing I ever read. Well, other when I read alexs posts.|
|2013 May 19 07:05:00 PM (2956)||[Biff] wwgha link 1. ||Hmm, people do wicked thugs so God does not exist? Nope, disproven time and time again. |
Wicked people is why Jesus came.
|2013 May 19 07:05:00 PM (3732)||[Biff] wwgha link 310. ||40ya |
It’s good to see you back posting again. Your comment that some believe consciousness is just illusion I tend to believe for many individuals. How else do you explain a group of people obsessed with arguing about a being that does not exist?
|2013 May 18 10:05:00 PM (3722)||[A] wwgha link 300. ||LoL!!!!!!! |
Anony Mouse thinks because we recognize design in creation this is where we wager Faith!!!
Mouse, you are great for laughs. No my boy what we recognize is common sense. God could of used an unknown process. Sorta like my GTO sitting out in the garage was designed although I weren’t there? My faith is used in much more complex matters such as you getting a clue. lol!!!!
I think gawd is how children spell in K. There is your difference. You are now my new DFW.
|2013 May 18 01:05:00 PM (3716)||[A] wwgha link 294. ||Anony Mouse now drags in TOE for more diversions. What a troll. |
Welcome back 40ya. Hope you hang around. Your posts are worth reading.
|2013 May 18 03:05:00 AM (3714)||[Xenon] wwgha link 292. ||40YA |
Enjoyed your post and you make some excellent points. We should all value truth but unfortunately too many are ideologues. That is apparent for some who call themselves scientist too.
|2013 May 17 06:05:00 PM (3701)||[A] wwgha link 279. ||Butterfly, |
To be a simple question you sure did blow it! Again, how does atheism increase our understanding of biology and physics? Maybe explain the whole cell and life popping out of the lifeless primordial soup thing. This should be good!
|2013 May 17 01:05:00 PM (3695)||[A] wwgha link 273. ||Anonymous was me as well.|
|2013 May 17 01:05:00 AM (3690)||[A] wwgha link 268. ||Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding. |
Sorry but had to initiate the BS alarm on Anony the Mouse. He has not been a part of the tête-à-tête but as is typical he must commence a diversion with one of my puppets so he must be neutralized. Job is now done. Let us recap:
Who made the first claim they had truth? DIP
Once we see this truth and the supporting evidence he has acquired we then can put it through the appropriate process to determine the legitimacy of his interpretation.
DPK, you are up my boy!
Now I am sure your interpretation will not be influence by atheism. Anony The Mouse is quite concerned about bias here! LOL!!!!!!!!
|2013 May 17 01:05:00 AM (3688)||[A] wwgha link 266. ||Another flashback huh alex? I bet you hear the sound of bacon 24/7. LOL!!|
|2013 May 16 02:05:00 AM (3673)||[Martin] wwgha link 251. ||We can again sum up the fallacious nature of the logic provided by DPK. |
1. Zeus was a God
|2013 May 15 06:05:00 PM (3665)||[A] wwgha link 243. ||DIP is intellectually challenged and thus his Santa obsession. He actually believes he is showing intellect…lol!!!!! |
He tells you why not to be a Santa believer but not why to be atheist. Atheist like Santa, they bring him up a lot.
Hey DIP, what would you tell a Buddhist is a reason to be atheist? Lol!!!!
|2013 May 15 01:05:00 PM (3657)||[A] wwgha link 235. ||Butterfly, |
Again, Anony the Mouse has asked you to refrain from speaking to strangers. You really should obey.
|2013 May 15 01:05:00 PM (3656)||[A] wwgha link 234. ||Butterfly, |
1. The death of the physical body does not prove life after death fails to exist. No paradox try again.
2. Using alexisms for Biology is nit proof. Try again.
3. Miracles in the Bible does not disprove God.
Butterfly, what else do you have?
|2013 May 15 11:05:00 AM (3651)||[A] wwgha link 229. ||“You will discover that there is no life after death, biology will make sense to you, physics will make sense to you” |
A great statement Butterfly. You have much more courage than DPK.
1. Prove there is no life after death. Naturally, use unbreakable proofs.
2. Biology already makes sense with God. It doesn’t make sense without God.
3. Physics? What? I have a son majoring in Physics at UNC. I want to share this. Please tell me how Physics doesn’t make sense with God?
|2013 May 15 11:05:00 AM (3650)||[A] wwgha link 228. ||Castbound, |
We see the archetypal DPK, Butterfly and alex in action. The question is why should one become an atheist?
DPK counters with so you can discern the truth. He now recognizes a terrible error?..again because now he must fabricate what the truth is in his world. There is none obviously.
His response, ask a bunch of counter questions to quickly alter the subject. Then moan that nobody will answer his flurry of questions and then resort to more diversion techniques by branding all theists as puppets. It is so banal I can predict it without examining his posts.
It’s cute how he believes in Santa:). Another diversion from the house clown.
|2013 May 12 10:05:00 PM (3602)||[A] wwgha link 180. ||No, Matt is me along with all the other posters on here. I have made that clear to you guys many times before. I am everyone on the blog. Now rest easy. Excuse me, I will be talking to my other persons. |
Matt,do you see that your atheists friends even believe you to be a dunce? What you have is an opinion and it is one not even alex believes in public. That is the ultimate in simpletons.
Give Matt some credit. He is just saying what all the other atheist bloggers believe. They are just too cowardly to admit it.
|2013 May 12 07:05:00 PM (3598)||[Martin] wwgha link 176. ||You can see from Matt’s use of fallacies that the level of proof required for abiogrnesis is zero but for a creator the bar moves up at a rate of 32ft/s. |
Shows their intellectual dishonesty and their incredible faith. Ironically Matt is completely unaware.
|2013 May 12 05:05:00 PM (3595)||[A] wwgha link 173. ||That is an interesting conclusion matt. So how do the first cell, protein and amino acid form in the ooze? Last check, scientist in a controlled environment can’t pull it off. |
Francis Crick believed aliens planted the first life. Is this your view. Look forward to your further insight.
|2013 May 12 12:05:00 AM (3581)||[A] wwgha link 159. ||Matt |
You agree with DPK? The origin of life has not bee proven? You seem sure your view is correct?
|2013 May 11 08:05:00 PM (3578)||[Martin] wwgha link 156. ||Alex you are idiot. There aient no God. Why do you religious idiots insist on pushing your delusions on the rest of us.|
|2013 May 11 05:05:00 PM (3573)||[Martin] wwgha link 151. ||Let us look at the latest fallacy. |
A. God is not good like me
B. GOOD is how “I” define GOOD
C. God is not GOOD according to me
D. Therefore God does not exists.
Logical fallacies in abundance here. Mike sets himself up as the model of GOOD. Michael has determined God must act as a man to be real. The diety does not meet this Michelian view of Good therefore He must not exist. In order to exist we must be able to completely explain and understand in Michalian logic.
|2013 May 11 01:05:00 PM (3563)||[Martin] wwgha link 141. ||Let us look of the logical fallacy atheist are attempting to use again to make the claim God is imaginary. |
A. God does not heal amputees
B. We think God should heal amputees
C. Go does not exist.
Those educated in logic can readily see the fallacious and child-like conclusion. From statement A we don’t know God has never healed an amputee. From B we can see the child-like demand from God to produce or else much like a child stomping their feet to get their demand fulfilled. In C we see the fatal decisiveness of a fallacious conclusion.
From the entire exercise we see a group of desperados soliciting other mere men to elucidate why God doesn’t fulfill their expectations. Why doesn?t God make all mankind redheads, gives us four arms, etc?
|2013 May 11 01:05:00 AM (3553)||[A] wwgha link 131. ||DPK & Anony Mouse do you agree with Matt’s assertion of how life formed?|
|2013 May 11 01:05:00 AM (3552)||[A] wwgha link 130. ||Ha Ha Ha |
“at least an ooze can be recreated.”
Can it alex? Well how about producing that proof.
“Some stuff in the ooze became life. Some life eventually climbed on to dry land”
OK, Matt we will need to hold you to the same standard your species requires for God. Show me proof of this claim, pure, valid, unbreakable proof. What about the thousands of years you claim? You gonna stick with that? HA Ha Ha!!
|2013 May 10 08:05:00 PM (3545)||[A] wwgha link 123. ||Matt |
Thanks for chiming in. So just being here is scientific proof life formed in the primordial soup. Do me a favor, could you write a paper and inform the scientific community? Your work will save much time and money.
|2013 May 10 05:05:00 PM (3542)||[A] wwgha link 120. ||A brony huh? Interesting, no I don’t know any men who watch MLP. I do know some children who watch. Are you a child Fluttershy? |
As a brony, think how would Fluttershy feel if his/her/its lines were the same episode after episode?
Here is one you can try. Show me proof life can and did evolve from the primordial soup? That should be easy since there is no God and therefore all proofs readily available. Nobody here can do it, how about you?
|2013 May 10 01:05:00 PM (3538)||[A] wwgha link 116. ||Fluttershy thanks for clearing up MLP. Would MLP be a favorite of Atheists? I have never seen it|
|2013 May 10 01:05:00 PM (3537)||[A] wwgha link 115. ||Anony Mouse is correct. We should stay on topic.|
Some churches have services in nursing homes. Any chance an Atheist church might be started in some nursing homes? Not many elderly atheists so the congregation would be pretty small.
|2013 May 09 08:05:00 PM (3518)||[A] wwgha link 96. ||Michael and Alex, |
You have been given you marching orders by Butterfly and Anony Mouse. It is not acceptable to them to go off on your own and speak to sock puppets.
Anywho moving on from their diversions…..Michael have you thought of calling yourself shutterfly or some other mythical pony?
You realize in order to no longer be a religion you will need to lose your obsession, right?
|2013 May 09 11:05:00 AM (3509)||[A] wwgha link 87. ||Lou, |
The religion of atheism is alive and well. The more they fight the label the more they show it to be true. Atheism is being treated as a religion throughout culture. What does a religion need?
Dogma. Atheist have it. Mostly hate of Christians, So-called Gay rights, Liberals and pro-death.
A Church building. Yep they are getting those now.
Atheist preachers. Yep, got those.
Classes on Atheism, yep got those. They have all the ingredients including the fanatics.
|2013 May 03 11:05:00 PM (3896)||[A] wwgha link 153. ||Yes whiner, any question you can”t answer is loaded. Stop be a whiny putz and act like you have a set. Geez, kids don’t whine as much as you!|
|2013 May 03 07:05:00 PM (3894)||[A] wwgha link 151. ||Ha Ha aHa, |
DPK and Mighty Mouse claiming others do not answer questions.
LOL!! Pot meet Kettle!!
That is rich. The next question they answer will be the first. When Martin asks a question their tactic is to divert attention by asking a question rather than answer. This way they don”t fall into a “gotcha”.
Remember Mousey, need to produce this so called flaw. I’ll get the popcorn.
|2013 May 03 04:05:00 PM (3891)||[Martin] wwgha link 148. ||I left out the reoccuring rant that everyone is a sock puppet. |
DPK kindly show me where I state my posts ocuured on this thread. The chidishsness is unbelievable. Flutter at least recalled some of the facts he couldn’t cope with.
|2013 May 03 02:05:00 PM (3888)||[Martin] wwgha link 145. ||It is the small minds who prefer to attack others and spend their time in school yard taunts. I have offered some thought provking questions and observations but all that is offered in return is requests to leave and f bombs. A sure sign of individuals who have been made uncomfortable in their worldview.|
|2013 May 03 11:05:00 AM (3886)||[A] wwgha link 143. ||Alex, we got Anony the Mouse have a change of heart. It is OK for you to post to any blogger you would like. That is great news. |
Lets get back to important matters like discussing Mouse’s arrogance and his obsession with tagging other posters.
|2013 May 02 11:05:00 PM (3882)||[A] wwgha link 139. ||That’s right Alex. You submit to Anony the Mouse and do what that atheist tells you to do. Now quit commenting to all us sock puppets and go back to your bedroom or cell or wherever.|
|2013 May 02 11:05:00 PM (3879)||[A] wwgha link 136. ||Bure, |
This is pretty much the norm for atheits sites. No manners, no morals, its all good. They are known for being very chauvinistic too. Don’t be a woman at on of their conferences! lol!!!
|2013 April 27 03:04:00 PM (3463)||[Martin] wwgha link 41. ||Distraught, |
They never police their own. If a theist was doing it they would. They have no standards which shouldn’t be a surprise.
|2013 April 25 03:04:00 PM (5538)||[A] wwgha link 288. ||Thank you Katie. Atheists are well versed in twisting Scripture. They copy and paste from blogs. |
I am blessed daily.
|2013 April 25 03:04:00 PM (4144)||[A] wwgha link 234. ||X, |
Don”t you know anony the mouse is extra special. He specially qualified to determine what is an is not evidence. You must also meet his demand regardless of how many times it has been presented
Have you ever noticed he has Never Ever (sound familiar) added anything meaningful here? He spends his time calling everyone trolls and puppets. This is a mouse out of ideas. Lol!!!!
The thing I like about most Christians is they will call out their own. Not atheists or Muslims. Just like a liberal.
|2013 April 25 12:04:00 PM (4139)||[Xenon] wwgha link 229. ||Anonymous, |
many posters have outlined proofs for God on this blog. You are ignorant and/or unaware. The problems arises when your ilk only claim is uh uh it’s not proof. Acknowledging the vast majority buys into these proofs is not a fallacy. The fallacy states the claim is true due to the fact the vast majority believe it. Learn what a fallacy is before showing more ignorance.
Do you seriously believe Communist dictators separated their atheists beliefs from their actions? Humans do not work in this manner. It is quite reasonable to acknowledge their atheism and relative moralism as factors in their actions.
|2013 April 25 02:04:00 AM (3450)||[Martin] wwgha link 28. ||“why do you atheists fail to answer our questions?” |
I think Anonymous expressed it best. They are afraid of the gotcha moment. Goes to show they even recognize their beliefs as very weak and not readily supported.
John Boy said
“I was born ?non-evil? and have remained so all my life”
How do you know this is true?
|2013 April 25 01:04:00 AM (4134)||[A] wwgha link 224. ||“If we are to work like that, you cannot prove your god exists” |
Sure I can and over 90% of the world believes the proof. You need to be asking why are you blind to it?
There is also no dispute the greatest murdering tyrants of the last century were atheists. You are 0 for 2 Fluttershy.
|2013 April 24 04:04:00 PM (4126)||[A] wwgha link 216. ||Sure, the murdering tyrants separated their atheism from their hate of the religious! Lol!!!!! |
Now if you can prove it, you may have a point. You can’t and you won’t.
|2013 April 24 11:04:00 AM (4121)||[A] wwgha link 211. ||“Atheism doesnt exist” |
Now I see the problem. You are high.
When you sober up do an honest assessment. There are no websites, organizations, authors, books, blogs, federal rulings and trolls on nosantaclausism.
And as I expected, atheist refuse to acknowledge what the murdering atheists tyrants have done.
|2013 April 24 12:04:00 AM (4116)||[A] wwgha link 206. ||Mart, |
Atheists claim that violent, murdering atheists regimes have nothing to do with atheism. For atheists, they live in denial, close their eyes while chanting atheism goud, all other religions bad.
Compare that to US government’s denial that Islamic extremist and jihad is taking place. That is the atheists mindset. They ignore the fact that Atheists dictators have murdered more people in the last 100 years than have been murdered throughout man’s history. But of course that is not immoral because absolutes do not exist.
|2013 April 23 06:04:00 PM (4113)||[Martin] wwgha link 203. ||A|
it had been my impression blogs were for asking questions. But here all you get is anger and insults. It could be immaturity on the part of the participants. The fact Flutter sees no problem since the former USSR now does not exists is very enlightening to the mindset here.
|2013 April 23 12:04:00 AM (4109)||[A] wwgha link 199. ||Mart, |
I think you got Anony the Mouse rattled in a gotcha moment. You didn’t expect someone who remains anonymous to actually answer a straightforward question did you? This is the atheist courtroom and they are here to drill you, not reflect on their own conflicting beliefs.
If you want to observe what occurs when atheists gain control only look to the USSR, Cambodia and Red China. Any questions? That is their morality in action.
Any dude who refers to himself as one of the ?my little ponies? is one scary dude. I will categorize him with the alexs.
|2013 April 22 08:04:00 PM (4104)||[Martin] wwgha link 194. ||“Martin, prove that morals come from your god” |
I never claimed that but my little pony and I laid out no presuppositions. Don’t listen to Anonymous, think for yourself.
“What is right and what is wrong is up to yourself.”
So you are saying that raping a little boy is OK if a man (or woman) or even a little pony thinks it is OK? Would this be what your are saying?
|2013 April 22 11:04:00 AM (4100)||[Martin] wwgha link 190. ||“Martin, you keep pressing this ?gotcha? question” |
A gotcha question? Well if it is a gotcha question is is because you moral relativism obviously does not work. That is not my issue it is your problem.
Fluttershy had the courage to attempt an answer while you prefer to go off on tangents in order to avoid your “gotcha” moment. Don’t be afraid.
Anon, if you were never taught your morality then how did you come up with what is right and wrong? Is it OK to steal and lie on occasion? How did you determine when is was OK.
Lastly, if no morals are cast in stone when is it OK to rape boys?
|2013 April 22 01:04:00 AM (3440)||[Martin] wwgha link 18. ||“It is painfully illogical.” |
How is it illogical? Please explain.
1. We all were born
|2013 April 22 01:04:00 AM (4096)||[Martin] wwgha link 186. ||“Although, i am a male, but no, i am not homosexual.” |
Right, I assumed you are male, you are male then what are you Whining about my little pony?
|2013 April 22 01:04:00 AM (4095)||[Martin] wwgha link 185. ||“Except that Martin?s premise is that he needs to be told what is right and what is wrong and it?s cast in stone.” |
Lets try to get Anon to answer this question. He/She and Flutter have an opher going at the moment.
Anon, if you were never taught your morality then how did you come up with what is right and wrong? Is it OK to steal and lie on occasion? How did you determine when is was OK.
Lastly, if no morals are cast in stone when is it OK to rape boys?
|2013 April 21 05:04:00 PM (4086)||[Martin] wwgha link 176. ||?[Martin] what stops *you* raping little boys or starting gulags?” |
First I have absolutely no attraction to boys. Second, it is wrong. I usually ignore obvious answers for questions but the fact you have to ask scares me just a little. Anon & Flutter, are you guys attracted to little boys?
Fluttershy maybe you could get Anon to help you? Let me try rephrasing the question. If all morals are relative, how can an atheist call anything immoral, like the raping of boys? Maybe an answer is not possible?
|2013 April 20 08:04:00 PM (4079)||[Martin] wwgha link 169. ||“i would say that it would be almost always immoral” |
Glad to hear you say that Flutter but DPK does not agree. So I suppose taking this a step further atheists could use the gulags and say it is not immoral to do so. I guess this is part of the no absolutes.
|2013 April 20 03:04:00 AM (4075)||[Martin] wwgha link 165. ||Suffering is immoral and stopping pain is moral? |
That’s it? So how does stealing, as DPK states can be moral, work into that? Your simple strategy lacks much substance.
|2013 April 19 04:04:00 PM (4071)||[Martin] wwgha link 161. ||“I rape as much as i want.|
The fact is that i want to rape 0 people”
That is great news Flutter but that is not nor has it ever been the point. How can an atheist make an absolute call that it is morally wrong to throw Christians into gulags, rape ANYONE or murder others.
DPK claims all morals are relative so how do can you judge another’s morality as wrong? I have asked this many times and the question is always avoided.
|2013 April 19 03:04:00 AM (4065)||[Martin] wwgha link 155. ||The issue is simple. Each atheists determines his own right and wrong. Therefore, there can be no immorality only opinion. They could rape little boys or start gulags and justify through their opinion as moral. |
The teachings of Christ make these actions immoral, not the opinions of men.
|2013 April 18 10:04:00 AM (4060)||[A] wwgha link 150. ||Isn’t telling how Mr Q justifies atheist’s relativism by pointing to some nuts.|
|2013 April 17 12:04:00 AM (3865)||[A] wwgha link 122. ||“Seriously? DNA evolved?” |
Scareface, if it didn’t evolve then where did it come from?
“Truth is reality- that means proper Science”
Really scarface? Why is science capitalized? What is proper Science and how does it determine truth? So is truth relative, it changes as proper Science changes?
Who drug you in from the 60s with your Existential blast. Trying to sound intelligent didn’t work Scarface.
|2013 April 17 12:04:00 AM (4050)||[A] wwgha link 140. ||Martin said “As I stated earlier, with no absolute standards of morality lying would always be OK as long as the one lying deems it appropriate.” |
Martin isn’t that one of the best things about being an atheist? You do whatever you want and call it moral. You can justify anything in your own mind. DPK has duped himself well. I’m sure he considers himself the picture of good morality.
Cheat on a test claim the test was unfair
Shoplift at the grocery store claim they charge too much
Lie on your taxes claim everyone does it.
It is so easy even a 5 year old could do it.
|2013 April 16 11:04:00 AM (4041)||[Martin] wwgha link 131. ||“Technically this is correct, but to all the christians and athiests, it is not.|
Every country and race has its own morals, so standardising them is impossible.”
Thank you Fluttershy. As I stated earlier, with no absolute standards of morality lying would always be OK as long as the one lying deems it appropriate.
Now you said “but to all the christians and athiests, it is not”. What “standard” of morality do Atheists use?
|2013 April 16 01:04:00 AM (4036)||[Martin] wwgha link 126. ||“It ALWAYS depends on circumstance, relative harm and good” |
Oh, OK I see. So there is never a wrong time to lie. Every person decides when it is right to lie so all circumstances are acceptable as long as the individual deems them acceptable.
“If society decides that that persons decision is bad for the community at large, then the community must decide to take action.”
Oh, OK, I see. So the Muslim nations who put to death Atheists, Christians and treat woman like property are being morally correct since the society deemed it OK.
It is the same morality that allows a guy like alex to hide behind a computer and cast stones with not one atheist being embarrassed enough to call him out.
I do get it now.
|2013 April 15 08:04:00 PM (4033)||[Martin] wwgha link 123. ||121|
The verse states “love your neighbor or as yourself”. You need to know the verse to understand they are both being loved. Again they both are being loved in the process.
|2013 April 15 06:04:00 PM (4030)||[Martin] wwgha link 120. ||I did, the neighbor who commits the crime goes to jail. |
You are having a tough time understanding love. You probably give your child all things he/she wants calling that love. That would be the reason you can’t see punishments as love. Loves is not always giving someone what they want.
You still failed to explain how you can state anything as immoral if there exist no absolute.
When is it OK to lie? To avoid punishment? To take advantage of another? Further your career?
|2013 April 15 06:04:00 PM (4028)||[Martin] wwgha link 118. ||The person who should go to prison is the one who commits the crime. That is the loving thing to do for both parties.|
|2013 April 15 06:04:00 PM (4027)||[Martin] wwgha link 117. ||DPK, |
So is spanking an absolutely immoral act?
|2013 April 15 11:04:00 AM (4025)||[Martin] wwgha link 115. ||“Ok fine? like I said, I don?t want to go to prison, does that mean no one should go to prison?” |
Then don’t commit a crime. If you do then the “loving”(love your neighbor) thing to do for the person you commit a crime against is to take you of the street.
|2013 April 15 11:04:00 AM (4024)||[Martin] wwgha link 114. ||“it?s NOT ok to spank a child.” |
A moral absolute? Don’t you claim moral absolutes do not exist?
|2013 April 15 11:04:00 AM (4023)||[Martin] wwgha link 113. ||“Point is, there are times when it is more moral to lie than to tell the truth.” |
Who gets to decide when and who gets to judge it as moral?
|2013 April 15 02:04:00 AM (4021)||[A] wwgha link 111. ||Welcome to Bible Study with DPK…. |
Any questions? Lol!!!!!!!!
I don’t think a 5 yr old could have butchered the Bible any worse.
|2013 April 14 01:04:00 AM (4003)||[Martin] wwgha link 93. ||RC |
I like a guy who has enough scruples not to argue with an endless barrage of naïveté. DPK and alex never fail to astonish me on their inability to carry on a discussion. I used to think they were just obstinate but have concluded they really are that nescient.
Once you learn this, you can come just to poke holes in their worldview. It can be amusing.
|2013 April 13 07:04:00 PM (5899)||[A] wwgha link 248. ||Aaron, |
One of the things I like here is the tolerance of atheists. They start a site discussing God and religion and when a poster comes doing such they ask them to leave.
However Butterfly shifts from Christian mingle to how the universe works. What a mess! LOL!!
|2013 April 12 11:04:00 AM (3854)||[A] wwgha link 111. ||Anonymous, |
I am also RC, Messenger, Solomon, Anonymous, AntiTheist, Lou, alex, fluttershy, DPK and Thomas.
There, it is all out. Now you can stop obsessing over who is wearing what like a giggling 18 yr old at a prom!
Pardon me, I am going to now comment to my other me, Miles.
The truth about atheists is that none of their objections is regarding proof. Of course they will make the claim, but in reality it is just about their obsession over God. They accept numerous claims presented by science only supported by assumptions.
See if you can find a blog objecting to Crick’s Panspermia or Abiogenesis. Aliens are as much a religion as atheism, Buddhism and Taoism.
|2013 April 10 06:04:00 PM (3959)||[A] wwgha link 49. ||site Admin, |
Could u please highlight DPK, slappy nuts, Alexa’s posts? That would help me find them faster for my afternoon stress relief.
|2013 April 10 06:04:00 PM (3958)||[A] wwgha link 48. ||DPK actually speaking about tolerance as if he knows. |
Go get medicated for your A.S. You are just a DFW we all use for humor break!
|2013 April 09 05:04:00 PM (3839)||[A] wwgha link 96. ||RC,|
Personality disorder is accurate for atheists. Auspergers syndrome is prevelant with their kind. The anger is just hatred with anyone not like them.
|2013 April 06 06:04:00 PM (3782)||[A] wwgha link 39. ||Boski |
Those is the know realize science is not truth discovery. It is the work of what can be proven in the moment with the scientific method. That is pure science when it is not politically or ideologically corrupted. Then there is a whole area science accepted on faith with no consideration of the scientific method.
I like what Popper had to say:
“The old scientific ideal of episteme? of absolutely certain, demonstrable knowledge? has proven to be an idol. The demand for scientific objectivity makes it inevitable that every scientific statement must remain tentative for ever.”
|2013 April 06 01:04:00 PM (3769)||[A] wwgha link 26. ||alex claim atoms don’t exist. Is this another atheist truh we grasp in faith?|
|2013 April 06 01:04:00 PM (3768)||[A] wwgha link 25. ||Boski |
Those are great questions and it seems as you are evolving you are realizing you have not been thinking for yourself. Rather, you have been letting others program you what to think. It happens to many of us after we mature and look back over our years.
Ironically some believe thinking freely is eliminating an entire subset of ideas. You mentioned that area and for that I commend you.
You asked “How in the world could DNA evolve from the Big Bang?”. As you have no doubt recognized, atheism refuses to even attempt to answer such a question. In fact atheism asks you accept truths that contradict what we actually observe. Keep questioning and keep studying across the broad spectrum and you will find real truth.
|2013 April 05 07:04:00 PM (3753)||[Biff] wwgha link 10. ||Adam |
Why do you think there are no videos of nature growing a wing out of a snake or writing a new OS?
|2013 April 05 07:04:00 PM (4602)||[Biff] wwgha link 456. ||A|
If A Nony is tutoring in no answers and diversions rather than Answering a question well then, well done sir!!
It should be so easy. If no God exists then showing links of nature writing code should be easy.
The latest response is look in a mirror. Lets try that in a fictional situation.
Prove my hammer wrote DNA code?
Answer: Look in the mirror.
Hmm, that answer fits any possibility
|2013 April 05 03:04:00 PM (4598)||[A] wwgha link 452. ||Bif, |
Mouse is attempting to tutor you. Cells make up DNA. Yes, you heard ot here first. The cellular program was written by no other than Steve Jobs.
|2013 April 05 11:04:00 AM (4594)||[Biff] wwgha link 448. ||“First life simple single cells. Fast forward to today ? complex life, multi-cellular. Does that meet your criteria for something?” |
Only your continued ignorance unrealized or maybe realized. After you have had your basic high school biology class and passed it, feel free to try again. I will acknowledge the incredible faith you have in nature.
|2013 April 05 12:04:00 AM (3750)||[Biff] wwgha link 7. ||Any videos of nature writing DNA code? Gotta see to believe!!!|
|2013 April 04 11:04:00 PM (4588)||[Biff] wwgha link 442. ||“Contrary to Anonymous? comment at 431 it?s still technically evolution at work” |
Yes, Anony has no clue what he is talking about any more than DPK or alex. They just repeat what they have heard and somehow believe they are stating facts.
Ok Never Steady Freedie claims a subset of the already existing DNA in that organism is actually adding to the existing DNA although all it has done is shuffle what existed. Whatever you would like to call the process, the variation, cannot become immense if all it does is reorganize the existing DNA, it is severely limited to the existing code.
Nevertheless, that was not the question.
Now, is anyone going to provide one solid reason why we should believe nature wrote DNA code? We need more than nature exists, DNA exists and we should therefore believe.
|2013 April 04 11:04:00 AM (4578)||[A] wwgha link 432. ||“spontaneous combustion” |
alex did u mean spontaneous generation or are you referring to human beings suddenly igniting?
You need to stop showing your ignorance while you are ahead. Microevolution is the only type of evolution of which proof exists.
Go back to your desk and listen to your teacher.
|2013 April 03 07:04:00 PM (4569)||[Biff] wwgha link 423. ||Flutter, |
You are correct. DPK has no concept of biology. You too have very little. You two can’t stop talking about God long enough to give me some concrete reasons why we should have faith in nature writing DNA. Finish laughing at the theist if you must and see if you can give me something more than faith and mere ability to reflect light.
Tom thank you for the clarification.
|2013 April 03 11:04:00 AM (4555)||[Biff] wwgha link 409. ||These gentlemen are so hung up on God that they cannot help but talk about God constantly. Again, I am not arguing for God, I want to understand the logic of nature writing complex information systems, namely DNA. |
Again, we have Fluttershy correcting DPK that DNA does not evolve but now mutates, also known as cancer. How does THIS now account for the coding of DNA of which there are many? Just because you see something does not mean it can perform a task. I have a hammer in my garage that I can see but I am sure it cannot write complex coding.
Give me something of substance that will allow me to put my faith in nature?s ability to write high information coding.
|2013 April 03 11:04:00 AM (4554)||[Biff] wwgha link 408. ||These gentlemen are so hung up on God that they cannot help but talk about God constantly. Again, I am not arguing for God, I want to understand the logic of nature writing complex information systems, namely DNA. |
Again, we have Fluttershy correcting DPK that DNA does not evolve but now mutates, also known as cancer. How does THIS now account for the coding of DNA of which there are many? Just because you see something does not maean it can perform a task. I have a hammer in my garage but I am sure it cannot write complex coding.
Give me something of substance that will allow me to put my faith in nature’s ability to write high information coding.
|2013 April 03 12:04:00 AM (4547)||[Biff] wwgha link 401. ||“I haven?t ?ruled out? anything? show me this god actually exists and that he wrote this program you are talking about. If the evidence is compelling, I?ll believe it. You haven?t done that.” |
I haven’t ruled anything out either or mentioned God. Show how nature can write high information code and I will believe. You haven’t done that.
“DNA exists, chemistry exists, nature exists. There is abundant evidence as to how DNS replicates, and how that replication process can result in changes over time? in other words, evolve.”
You show you really DO believe nature wrote the code. Tell me, how do you think DNA evolved?
|2013 April 02 06:04:00 PM (4545)||[Biff] wwgha link 399. ||DPK you very obviously are not familiar with high information coding. You actually compared it to a sand dune. |
OMG, that is so ludicrous and frankly ignorant. Do u even know anything about coding?
|2013 April 02 06:04:00 PM (4544)||[Biff] wwgha link 398. ||Dpk you cannot keep A separate from Biff? Two names are that difficult while I must keep up with 3-4? |
Let me recap. Anon uses starlight as an answer for how DNA was written, DPK doesn’t know and Flutter uses abiogenesis. Those have nothing to do with DNA.
How can I put faith in natural processes writing DNA code when zero proof exists? We have eliminated God so how could it be possibly done? Could it be possible you are not familiar with high information coding?
|2013 April 02 12:04:00 PM (4531)||[Biff] wwgha link 385. ||?I have absolutely not eliminated a programer.|
Why do you have to lie about what I said in order to try and make your point?
I said, ?I don?t know.??
I don?t lie, you and others have stated repeatedly there in no God on this blog. Fluttershy seems pretty sure right above this post. However, so you are agnostic not an atheist? or would you be one of the 23% of atheists who responded they believe in God?
Or, would you being putting you faith in nature having the ability to write multiple high information coding? Your faith in the probability of nature is based on what?
How can we place out faith in nature when is shows absolutely no ability whatsoever to perform such a task?
“Well, in MY opinion, being that every thing is consisted of atoms, it is not impossible, that in sheer chance and randomness, that enough combined to form a single cell.”
Astonishing, Fluttershy can you provide for us a step by step process for how this would happen? Please provide citations so that we can properly review your work.
|2013 April 02 12:04:00 PM (4530)||[Biff] wwgha link 384. ||“I have absolutely not eliminated a programer.|
Why do you have to lie about what I said in order to try and make your point?
I said, ?I don?t know.?”
I don’t lie, you and others have stated repeatedly there in no God on this blog. However, so you are agnostic not an atheist? or would you be one of the 23% of atheists who responded they believe in God?
Or, would you being putting you faith in nature having the ability to write multiple high information coding? Your faith in the propability of nature is based on what?
How can we place out faith in nature when is shows absolutely no ability whatsoever to perform such a task?
|2013 April 01 09:04:00 PM (4524)||[Biff] wwgha link 378. ||?And as I have told you many times before? I don?t know.? |
Well, I think you believe you do. You have eliminated a programmer. Therefore, you have accepted that is must be natural and that nature can somehow write the complex code of DNA. Yes? So nature must have done it, Right?
|2013 April 01 09:04:00 PM (4523)||[Biff] wwgha link 377. ||“And as I have told you many times before? I don?t know.” |
Well, I think you believe you do. You have eliminated a programmer. Therefore, you have accepted that is must be natural and that nature can somehow write the complex code of DNA. Yes? So nature must have done it, Right?
|2013 April 01 08:04:00 PM (4521)||[Biff] wwgha link 375. ||“Tragically, rather than answer, you choose to focus on a punctuation error. That?s telling.” |
Is it DPK? I didn’t know what you were attempting to get across. Probably more evasion, ignoring of the question and childish rants. But let us examine your attempt at, an answer?
“No, we don?t. We know DNA exists, we know nature exists, and we know nature behaves according to natural laws. This is undeniable.”
This is well deserving of a duh!
Nature behaves in accordance with natural law! Hey my laptop behaves like a laptop! Thank you Albert. What natural law programmed DNA? Let is assume God did not do it. Notice I am not making a God claim, as you like to allude to. I am asking you how did it happen?
Again you do not offer guidelines for lying. Your assumption without proof Messenger lied has outraged you? Why? When is it OK to lie?
|2013 April 01 06:04:00 PM (4518)||[Biff] wwgha link 372. ||“As said multiple times by different people, this blog is about god,” |
That is a claim made by posters who are cowards, not Thomas. Actually this blog is about just anything Thomas would like to post. Politics, morality, Messenger lying, Sock puppets,Magical Turtles, etc. However, origins and creation tie into God and if you claim there is no God, you have quite the task explaining how DNA was programmed. What you are saying is that nature can write programs.
So Flutter, where is an answer. Must I believe in faith nature created DNA? Stop with the excuses.
“Indeed it is there Biffy?”
Is that a question?????? Well, I don’t know if he lied but if he did why do you have a problem? You don’t agree with when he chose to lie? What are the guidelines for lying properly DPK?
I like Biffy, sort of rings with spiffy. Thanks boys.
|2013 April 01 12:04:00 PM (4510)||[Biff] wwgha link 364. ||“Why do you always have to lie about things to try and make people believe you?” |
Why is lying wrong DPK? I believe it was you who once made the claim lying was OK in the right situation?
|2013 April 01 12:04:00 PM (4508)||[Biff] wwgha link 362. ||Fluttershy, |
Why we should believe in faith that nature can write DNA code? If no God exists, then it must be a natural process, right?
You will need to explain what you believe happened, how it happened, when it happened, and provide verifiable details. Please provide citations so that we can independently read your submission.
|2013 March 31 06:03:00 PM (4494)||[Biff] wwgha link 348. ||Professing atheist believing in God only means they are now honest. |
But rather than insults and diversions will any atheist answer why we should believe in faith that nature can write DNA code? If no God exists, that is the only answer, yes?
Why are the atheists so scared?
|2013 March 30 09:03:00 PM (4479)||[A] wwgha link 333. ||322 Biff, |
Seems the atheist cannot even answer why we should believe by faith that nature can write the program for DNA.
Is it not incredible just how screwed up the atheist mind really is. That would not include the 21% of atheist who do believe in God. :)
|2013 March 29 11:03:00 PM (4468)||[Biff] wwgha link 322. ||Let me rephrase the question so it is even simpler. |
When I look at DNA and the high information content, why should I believe it was created by nature? What in nature would suggest it is even possible? No God claim here, asking how nature could pull this off. For a reference check into information theory.
Unfortunately what we will see is volcano god, santa, elves and profanity but at least they are being exposed for those who may be lurking.
|2013 March 29 05:03:00 PM (4456)||[A] wwgha link 310. ||Biff I would like to answer. It never happened. DNA being orderly, precise and complex would require intelligence. I observe that truth in life and unless one of our scholars lol!! presents a a better answer, I will stick with it. |
Amazing, not one even attempts an answer.
|2013 March 29 12:03:00 PM (4452)||[Biff] wwgha link 306. ||The reason atheist claim to believe in God in a Pew survey is embarrassment. If we have any let me offer up the question posed earlier. This question can convert me and every other Christian to your position. |
How did evolution create DNA? Now you must be able to to develop a credible theory that starts immediately after the Big Bang and that would account for the multiple DNA codes realizing the DNA varies based on what task the cell is to perform.
Anyone with any education and an understanding of Information theory would naturally assume something this complex and high functioning would require an Intelligent agent to write this code. SAS, Oracle, etc don’t wait on nature to develop their codes.
You are, however, asked to explain what you believe happened, how it happened, when it happened, and provide verifiable details. Please provide citations so that we can independently read your submission.
|2013 March 29 12:03:00 AM (4441)||[A] wwgha link 295. ||Oh DPK you are Such an old fart (pew!) |
We simply redefine the word like”gay marriage” Atheist just means clueless now!! Lol!!
The most likely explanation is atheists don’t believe anything because they don’t know anything. They prove that here daily.
|2013 March 28 11:03:00 PM (4435)||[A] wwgha link 289. ||?Not all atheists believe in evolution, but all have the disbelief of god.? |
Actually that is incorrect. A Pew survey found 21% of atheist believe in God.
Couldn’t add the link due to moderation but check it for yourself.
Can?t answer any questions
|2013 March 28 11:03:00 PM (4434)||[A] wwgha link 288. ||“They believe that your postulated god is just another in a long line of myths” |
Actually that is untrue too. 21% of atheist even believe in God. They are quite a confused bunch.
Can’t answer any questions
|2013 March 28 08:03:00 PM (4429)||[A] wwgha link 283. ||Zeno said: |
“Not all atheists believe in evolution, but all have the disbelief of god.”
Who are these atheist who deny evolution and what do they believe? According to High Priest Dawkins, evolution is fact.
Why can’t atheist get together on what they believe?
DNA was created by Time & Chance is atheist land. I understand many atheists are waiting for Ferraris to evolve in their driveways
|2013 March 28 07:03:00 PM (4427)||[Biff] wwgha link 281. ||So not a single atheist could answer one question to put the entire argument to bed? It is all materialism, natural laws and evolution. Are these not all facts? Why is the one question so difficult for highly evolved atheists?|
|2013 March 28 10:03:00 AM (4422)||[A] wwgha link 276. ||B, |
A nice try but these atheist only desire adolescent games. Rhonda likes Rich and A is really Lou etc etc. Notice they never answer a question nor engage in any discussion. The blog for them is trying to guess which poster is another poster.
It takes courage to stand for something and they repeatedly show they have none. alex, the one with such a limited vocabulary, at least admits his own ignorance. It does getting boring in here with the same old prairie dogs.
|2013 March 28 01:03:00 AM (4416)||[Biff] wwgha link 270. ||Atheists, |
Here is your big chance. You can actually engage in credible discussion rather than attacks and crude language.
If you can answer one question we can put this entire matter to rest. How did evolution create DNA? Now you must be able to to develop a credible theory that starts immediately after the Big Bang and that would account for the multiple DNA codes realizing the DNA varies based on what task the cell is to perform.
Anyone with any education this field would naturally assume something this complex and high functioning would require an Intelligent agent to write this code,
You are, however, asked to explain what you believe happened, how it happened, when it happened, and provide verifiable details. Please provide citations so that we can independently read your submission.
If successful, I will take up your cause.
|2013 March 27 06:03:00 PM (4410)||[A] wwgha link 264. ||Mouse, |
You personal attacks and diversions will not take us from the facts. You failed and horribly. Your own words have been required of you and you cannot fulfill the requirement.
I had to embarass you to show just what a fraud and troll you really are. You and Alex are free to go trolling. It is what you and Alex do best.
|2013 March 27 05:03:00 PM (4406)||[A] wwgha link 260. ||Aw!!! another failure for Mouse. Why are you so afraid Mouse to defend anything? It is all materialism and science, Right? That should be simple to defend. One more shot for you mate and then we will have to label you a failure.|
|2013 March 27 01:03:00 AM (4392)||[A] wwgha link 246. ||“just because i can?t explain the gifts under the tree doesn?t mean santa did it” |
Seriously? You don’t know how the gifts got under your tree?
|2013 March 27 01:03:00 AM (4391)||[A] wwgha link 245. ||alex! |
Still clever as ever! You are such a breath of fresh air. You really are the poster child for atheism. Please never leave the blog.
Love ya bro!
|2013 March 27 01:03:00 AM (4390)||[A] wwgha link 244. ||Popcorn in hand, waiting for a great show and Mouse drops a dud! |
You were not asked to prove something did not happen. You were, however, asked to explain what you believe happened, how it happened, when it happened, and provide verifiable details. Please provide citations so that we can independently read your submission.
Simple? If there was no God, then nature must be responsible right? Try again and be a man this time.
|2013 March 26 09:03:00 PM (4386)||[A] wwgha link 240. ||LOL! I knew I could stir up Mouse!! |
OK, now that you are here no running. Let me see you prove that our existence CAN and DID happen without an omnipotent creator. As a guide (although on a much smaller level) picture the entire MS Windows 8 OS being created by you randomly typing on your keyboard!
Remember! you need to explain what you believe happened, how it happened, when it happened, and provide verifiable details. Please provide citations so that we can independently read your submission.
Got the popcorn! Looking forward to a great exposition!
|2013 March 26 08:03:00 PM (4383)||[A] wwgha link 237. ||“i wonder when thiests will look at the facts and see how noahs ark is simply not possible?” |
Sigh!, about when atheist look at facts and realize our existence is not possible without a omnipotent Creator.
Then again, you can prove me wrong.
First you need to explain what you believe happened, how it happened, when it happened, and provide verifiable details. Please provide citations so that we can independently read your submission. This would be called science, not some philosophy like abiogenesis or macroevolution.
When you complete this task, I will review it and let you know if you pass your burden of proof.
|2013 February 24 07:02:00 PM (4644)||[Martin] wwgha link 17. ||“If the Bible is myth then God is imaginary” |
Again, fallacious reasoning by Thomas. Let us assume for arguments sake the Bible is myth.
A. The Bible is myth
(A) is assumed and unproven. (B) is not a dependent statement of (A). If the Bible is myth (C) does not necessarily follow. Therefore the entire argument is fallacious.
|2013 February 22 07:02:00 PM (5522)||[A] wwgha link 272. ||Spambot, |
Job well done!!
|2013 February 22 07:02:00 PM (5521)||[A] wwgha link 271. ||DPK, |
All good cowboy, your post always look disjointed.
Not even one lie can be produced by Mutt & Jeff or one reason to be an atheist. Mission compete.
|2013 February 22 06:02:00 PM (5517)||[A] wwgha link 267. ||Still no list of lies made by me. |
Add dishonesty for reasons to be an atheist.
Oh, and lock up Christians in China just because they believe in God. Seems they are particularly violent lately!
|2013 February 22 12:02:00 PM (5511)||[A] wwgha link 261. ||Thema-Lou = DPK |
Where are the list of those lies I have made you keep claiming?
Let me guess, you don’t have any. You two were just lying in an attempt to strengthen a weak position, just another fallacy employed by the new atheists.
If my lists of reasons to be an atheist are wrong, then provide the right reasons. Let’s review:
Cold grave for eternity
|2013 February 22 01:02:00 AM (5506)||[A] wwgha link 256. ||“?it just the rich that owe me right??|
When no one here said any such thing.”
Thank you DPK-Thelma. You have just proven you don’t know the difference between a question and a lie.
Following your, eh, er, um, logic….. no one here said the universe owes us anything therefore you are a liar.
Fascinating! For one who has supposedly lied so much you can’t even provide one example!
ROTFL!!!! I do love you guys. Thanks for the comic relief.
|2013 February 21 09:02:00 PM (5500)||[A] wwgha link 250. ||“Seriously, are you retarded or something?” |
LOL! I’m something DPK.
I can add anger and loose sex to the things atheism offers.
Keep up the good work DPK We are working out a nice list.
To follow up on the DPK-Thelma Lou accusations, share with us where I lied. I enjoy the accusations, but alas, neither of your personalities NEVER EVER provide any actual proof.
|2013 February 21 08:02:00 PM (5498)||[A] wwgha link 248. ||DPK, |
The universe doesn’t owe me anything? Thanks, it just the rich that owe me right?
LOL! What craziness. Who made such a silly claim?
Add constant argument, ridicule and hate of things that “supposedly do not exisFun!
|2013 February 21 08:02:00 PM (5497)||[A] wwgha link 247. ||It is really simple DPK-Thelma. I don’t hate. You do because your myopia won’t allow you to accept others who don’t believe as you. The vast majority of Muslims don’t kill. |
But, you never answered what you have to offer. I understand. You offer only hate.
|2013 February 21 12:02:00 PM (5493)||[A] wwgha link 243. ||‘atheists are the happiest people i know,” |
lol!!! rotfl!!! Yes alex, your joy and happiness is jumping right off the keyboard.
Please! I couldn’t handle that much happiness.
|2013 February 21 12:02:00 PM (5492)||[A] wwgha link 242. ||“Is it because of the imaginary 72 virgins in the imaginary after-life as promised by their imaginary god? |
Really, you understand THAT?”
Yes I can. I have an ability to think and empathize with others, unlike you. These guys truly believe they now have a spot in paradise with their 72 virgins. I can understand why they would act in such a manner to gain that reward. They believe it in faith. The same way I can understand why a father would murder a man who raped his daughter.
But, lets talk about what YOU can offer. A cold grave? No hope? No purpose? And you believe this in faith?
|2013 February 21 03:02:00 AM (5487)||[A] wwgha link 237. ||“My beliefs are mine, I don?t push them on anyone. Very few Christians I know can say this!!” |
Nice Person if you are not pushing your beliefs on others why are you here? Have you been through the sister site which provides illogical proofs of God not existing? Have your read the threads as posted by Thomas? Can you still say with a straight face atheist are not pushing their beliefs on others? LOL!!
Now, I can understand why the religious push their beliefs. They believe in something better and want to share that with others. I cannot understand what atheists are pushing? Anger? A purposeless life? A cold grave? Its quite sad really.
|2013 February 21 03:02:00 AM (5485)||[A] wwgha link 235. ||“I have no proof of that, but it?s my gut feeling and is born out by my own experience.” |
How many times must Thelma-Lou tell you? We don’t what your gut feeling is, only what you can prove. Now, can you prove there is no God?
|2013 February 16 08:02:00 PM (5102)||[A] wwgha link 271. ||“It is one of the funniest books attempting to be serious science.” |
I’ll do you one funnier. Listen to Krauss debate William Lane Craig. Krauss was a scientist but no longer. His hatred of religion blinds his ability to think rationally any longer.
Sock puppets, no need to comment. I have slapped a persona non grata on each of your personas until you have something you can defend.
|2013 February 16 02:02:00 PM (5088)||[Martin] wwgha link 257. ||On a side note on nothing, read Krauss’ book “A universe from nothing”. It is one of the funniest books attempting to be serious science. “Nothing is not really nothing” and “Nothing does not really mean `nothing,” are riddled throughout the book. It is obvious his main goal is to attack religion rather than discuss real science. |
Funny, he spent no time on Santa, elves, FSM or other tired diversions atheist here like to equivocate with God. Could be he is more than just a non-believer.
|2013 February 16 02:02:00 PM (5087)||[Martin] wwgha link 256. ||“If god=nothing created the universe, then the universe requires nothing to create it. Thank you for admitting that.” |
So you accept this without proof but not God? Prove it.
|2013 February 15 10:02:00 PM (5065)||[Martin] wwgha link 234. ||Actually how life came about is the central question for all belief systems. If you cannot come to a plausible explanation on that question then you have no solid grounding for any belief. |
When you can work through that one, you will be allowed to ask others for their proof about God. Not until then since you do not intend on ever actually providing what you expect everyone else to provide.
I told you my name is Martin Mitchell, get over you childish sock game. Content is important, not a handle.
|2013 February 15 10:02:00 PM (5061)||[Martin] wwgha link 230. ||Kyle, |
You have Lou bringing out his DPK persona. He does that when under pressure.
|2013 February 15 10:02:00 PM (5060)||[Martin] wwgha link 229. ||“About what?” |
How about how life formed? Let’s see what he comes up with Kyle. No God then he has some explaining to do.
|2013 February 15 09:02:00 PM (5034)||[A] wwgha link 203. ||Kyle, |
First you have Anony Mouse who wants to know all about your belief then you have Thelma-lou who whines about being in his face with your beliefs. I think these fellas are schizophrenic. They don’t know what they want.
I guess sucking off the government teet will do that to you.
Have a good weekend Kyle.
|2013 February 15 08:02:00 PM (5019)||[A] wwgha link 188. ||Kyle, |
Just a warning. You will be called a troll and you will be called a sock by all the atheists here.
Enjoying your posts, keep it up.
|2013 February 15 07:02:00 PM (5018)||[A] wwgha link 187. ||Kyle |
Thelma-Lou claims he owns a business. Seriously, that is his claim.
Whadda ya think? Sound possible?
Please do not engage Anonymous. He has been banned from the site for diversions and cowardice.
Thanks in advance.
|2013 February 15 03:02:00 PM (4976)||[A] wwgha link 145. ||Anonymous has been declared persona non grata. He is a troll bent on controlling the conversation. Please do not engage his OCD on the Pope or his diversions on changing the subject from the topic at hand brought to us by the Carwasher. |
Carwasher, Thelma-Lou has made it quite we don’t care about your opinion, only about what you can prove. Where is you proof we evolved from some form of ape? We don’t want google cop-outs, if you believe you should be able to defend.
Oh, Carwaher everyone on the site is a puppet. It is a grand scheme by 2 billion people to keep you off-guard. Now…..we have that cleared up, we can stop with that diversion.
|2013 February 14 03:02:00 AM (4923)||[A] wwgha link 92. ||“I exposed my opinon about 100 times on these pages.” |
And I have told you, we don’t care about your opinion, only what you can prove.
Now stop ticking off Thelma-Lou and share with us what you can prove using Thelma Rules.
“Live started some 3 billion years ago on earth spontaniously, following laws of chemistry. ?Chance? did not play significant role in beginning of life. Time did. First life evolved to the present exyent following the rules of evolution.”
Proof Chance did not play a role. Proof Time did. Prove the laws of Chemistry existed. Prove life evolved from non-living matter.
|2013 February 13 10:02:00 AM (4905)||[Martin] wwgha link 74. ||Severin is admitting they have no evidence for their origin theories? |
No alien seeding evidence?(Crick)
|2013 February 12 05:02:00 PM (4872)||[A] wwgha link 41. ||DPK is up for Pope? Keep the children away. K knew had issues but he is sick |
Let me answer for Mouse. He has no facts nor an alternative for origins he can support with facts.
|2013 February 12 12:02:00 PM (4864)||[Martin] wwgha link 33. ||“the bible stories themselves don?t line up with the facts” |
The facts are what? If the creation story is incorrect prove the correct sequence of events.
|2013 February 12 12:02:00 AM (4856)||[A] wwgha link 25. ||Martin, |
You are more than welcomed here. If nothing else, you upset the trolls which I find appealing.
Let me answer for DPK since he will not. He has no evidence. Actually, until the 20th century, science denied vigorously that the universe even had a beginning. Such view were uncomfortable for science to contemplate. It was seen as a religious/philosophical view. Fast-forward 100 years, science has embraced the religious/philosophical view.
Sagan and others come along and speak of a universe using the anthropic principle giving the universe awareness and consciousness. What do we have? The admittance that God exists without using the term. They are slowly coming around.
|2013 February 11 10:02:00 PM (4850)||[Martin] wwgha link 19. ||“The bible provides a description of creation that simply does not fit with any observable evidence.” |
Provide this evidence that contradicts.
|2013 February 11 10:02:00 AM (4841)||[A] wwgha link 10. ||Anony the Mouse roars in whining and complaining about a a poster, again, rather than content. |
This two creation accounts has been rebutted for so long I ROTFL when I saw it brought up again.
What the atheist elite will do is this. Laugh at any creation account but they will not offer a viable solution to how it all began. They offer aliens, parallel universes and eternal matter/energy but, LOL!, they offer no proof, the one item they always yell the loudest for. What hypocrites.
|2013 February 09 11:02:00 PM (5869)||[Xenon] wwgha link 218. ||JoeyS |
I certainly hope you don’t believe I am attempting to talk you into anything. If I can talk you into something someone else can talk you out of it. I went through my own time of doubt in college but as I have gotten older there really is no doubt in my mind.
How do I know my LE buddy was healed by prayer? I witnessed it and he gives credit to the prayer of God’s people. He was given zero chance of survival by the best MDs and credits prayer. You can always make up something like, “we don’t know how but we will one day” which atheist like to use. But ultimately, you rule out any possibility of God with such a response, yes? I’ll take the word of the patient and the MDs there with him.
Read some books Joey. Try some of Antony Flew’s work. A brilliant atheist who studied the evidence and finally concluded there must be a God. Much of the work he studied was that of the brilliant Francis Collins.
“There Is a God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind” Antony Flew
Anyhow, you study the evidence and judge for yourself. If you do decide on atheism, I do hope you don’t become adversarial and nasty as those here. I wish the best for you.
|2013 February 09 09:02:00 PM (5863)||[Xenon] wwgha link 212. ||“But the point was that Lou was saying that there isn;t any such thing as an absolute moral code” |
JoeyS do you know the difference between ethics and morality? Absolute moral code was something made up by atheist here. You should look into it. Now, everyone has a moral code. Some make up their own like some atheist here who claim it is OK to lie and steal at the proper times, name call and type filthy obscenities. Others follow the teachings of Buddha, Christ or a hero in their life. Everyone follows their moral code, it is just a matter of where did it originate. Many atheists borrow their moral code from Judo-Christian teachings.
Now let me ask you this. Why should Martin not come here if he doesn’t want to play games with Lou? Is this Lou’s blog? Is Martin not allowed to question Lou? Maybe Lou should not appear? In reality, I have seen Martin here very little.
Take a look at DPK’s claim above. DPK and Lou in reality are the same poster:
“the world we live in looks exactly like what we would expect if there was no magical god pulling the strings”
Think logically here JoeyS. How can anyone have this information? In order to make this claim one would need to have access to a universe with God and a universe without God. This is not a valid claim and typically is dismissed without even a response.
|2013 February 09 08:02:00 PM (5857)||[Xenon] wwgha link 206. ||“Maybe you don;t see it that way, but when I ask someone a direct question and he doesn?t answer, it makes me think ?what?s he trying to hide.? See?” |
I do see. You claimed someone lied when you actually had no statement that was a lie. Is it possible he is tired or playing the games of Lou? Have you considered that? I certainly don’t answer any question from Lou anymore. To understand why read Proverbs 26:4-5.
Lou is only interested in arguing, name-calling and being unreasonable. I don’t mind corresponding with you because you seem to be well mannered and reasonable.
Joey I have seen people healed from prayer and I have seen people die even with prayer. We all must die one day and when our time comes we are leaving. Sometimes God says NO. On the other hand, I have a good friend, a LE officer in Duke University hospital. He was given no chance of survival and MDs asked permission from his parents to take his organs once he died. People up and down the east Coast were praying for him. That was 17 years ago and he is a Law enforcement today. Nobody has a “Right” to their life. It belongs to God, not us.
You want to understand everything about God. I understand that but if I understood God 100% that would bother me even worse.
|2013 February 09 02:02:00 PM (5851)||[Xenon] wwgha link 200. ||JoeyS |
You think because the Bible doesn’t use a word like “rape” that there is not a prohibition for it? You do know the Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek, right? The Bible speaks against sexually immoral actions in the NT and the OT. Also look at your claim “You shall not kill”. The Hebrew word is ?Ratsach? which translates more to our word murder meaning to take innocent life.
You claim you hear religious people say untrue things? JoeyS everybody says untrue things time to time including you. Check Jeremiah 17:9 for that truth. The Bible also speaks of “Sheep in wolves clothing”, so who are you listening to? Have you ever reads Psalm 1? It is short but packed full of wisdom on from who you seek council.
Obviously, you are an undercover atheist because no honest person would look at an exchange between Lou and anyone and think he is honest. His MO is obvious. Sit back and provoke someone who is a theist so he can argue. He never discusses anything because he rarely states what he does believe. Martin has just turned it around on him.
|2013 February 08 09:02:00 PM (5835)||[Martin] wwgha link 184. ||JoeyS |
One more point. Theist have answered all these questions WAY back in the past many times on here, on the web and in hundreds of books.
|2013 February 08 09:02:00 PM (5834)||[Martin] wwgha link 183. ||JoeyS, |
You need to learn something about logic. Atheist attempt to use fallacies like the Red Herring to get a thread off topic. I asked a very valid question to Lou that he has refused to answer. Why doesn’t that bother you? Continue to monitor, Lou will not answer the follow up to his claim.
The atheists, in order to avoid the question, use a Red Herring as means not to answer this question. Anyone who understands logic will not allow the opponent to use such tactics.
As far as God, I suggest you research this on your own rather than coming to a blog like this that is strictly entertainment. You need to determine if your five senses represent all their is to reality or it is possible reality exist outside the five senses. Not to mention, do you want to live a life full of anger and animosity toward others?
|2013 February 08 07:02:00 PM (5829)||[Martin] wwgha link 178. ||?In other words, all morality is relative.? |
Good, maybe when can make some progress. How can any atheist declare any action to be immoral? How can they condemn the actions of a Mao, Pol Pot or a Castro? If it is all relative then it is all morally acceptable Lou?
Follow up, it their actions can be deemed immoral, who gets to make that call?
|2013 February 08 03:02:00 PM (5820)||[Martin] wwgha link 169. ||s0l0m0n. |
MattD is just Lou. Why don’t we continue the discussion on atheist morality. They don’t but we can.
Lou has stated that each atheist declares his own morality. He further stated society declares what is moral and immoral. In other words, all morality is relative. DPK came to his aid to clear up a few of his comments.
My follow up to that is, if how can any atheist declare any action to be immoral? How can they condemn the actions of a Mao, Pol Pot or a Castro?
|2013 February 08 12:02:00 AM (6310)||[Martin] wwgha link 395. ||Curmudgon, |
When you have this many inhabitants (possibly person) getting so irate over a question, one knows they have hit a sore spot. They don’t have a legitimate response and prefer to cover up that wart. The Red Herring fallacy (also known as digression) makes for good make up to those who readily fall for it.
|2013 February 07 09:02:00 PM (6302)||[Martin] wwgha link 387. ||“That?s not what he said.. at all. He said it was a personal decision? not a ?preference?.” |
No need to change persona, just answer the simple question. You guys are so close one speaks for the other?
Its not personal preference, but it is decision? Exactly how does that change anything? On what grounds can you call anything immoral? Why is you decisions better than Castro’s, Mao’s, or Ted Bundy’s?
|2013 February 07 08:02:00 PM (6299)||[Martin] wwgha link 384. ||So if I understand Lou, there is no such thing as right and wrong in the atheist world? It is all just personal preference? Lying, cheating, stealing and murder are all OK if that particular atheist thinks it is OK? |
Seems very dangerous and history shows that to be the case.
My link got moderated. Oh well.
|2013 February 07 08:02:00 PM (6298)||[Martin] wwgha link 383. ||So if I understand Lou, there is no such thing as right and wrong in the atheist world? It is all just personal preference? Lying, cheating, stealing and murder are all OK if that particular atheist thinks it is OK? |
Seems very dangerous and history shows that to be the case.
|2013 February 07 07:02:00 PM (6294)||[Martin] wwgha link 379. ||“Because morality is RELATIVE, not absolute. How damn difficult is that for you to understand?” |
OK, then how can atheist claim ANYTHING is immoral? Your ilk makes moral judgments constantly. Everything would be OK, yes?
“Your entire argument is 100% moot unless you provide your alleged god-given absolute moral code.”
I haven’t made an argument. I followed up on your claim.
|2013 February 07 05:02:00 PM (7394)||[Martin] wwgha link 403. ||“Why do you continuously claim that while ignoring the elephant in the room – if everything requires a creator, who created the creator?” |
Elephant? A common question answered many times is an elephant? Is it not true many atheist claim the energy and matter existed forever? Why not the Creator? The difference is a Creator is a necessary entity.
|2013 February 07 05:02:00 PM (6287)||[Martin] wwgha link 372. ||“Society and individuals ?determine what is right and wrong,? not some alleged god-given absolute moral code.” |
That’s good Lou but we have some major issues here. Does that mean killing a woman for showing her face is an immoral act? What about an killing an atheist for being an atheist? or a Christian for converting from Islam? These are morally acceptable killings?
As for individuals, does every man decide for himself? If this is true, how is anything immoral?
|2013 February 07 03:02:00 PM (7385)||[Martin] wwgha link 394. ||“What?s a ?shovel mensa?? |
ha, ha, ha, google mensa Lou.
|2013 February 07 03:02:00 PM (6283)||[Martin] wwgha link 368. ||“you want ME, an atheist, to prove for you that atheists, not theists introduced the idea that their imaginary god issued an absolute moral code?” |
No, I wanted you to prove theists introduced the idea.
Lou was hoping to have some fun. He proceeded on to google to find a quote which he felt certain he would fine and then he could not. Now, he comes back with nothing to offer.
Lou, if there is no atheist moral code how do atheist determine what is right and wrong? How can they claim another is evil or wrong as they do on a regular basis without a moral code?
|2013 February 07 01:02:00 PM (7381)||[Martin] wwgha link 390. ||?We see it daily, man produce cars in the assembly line & build homes. Birds constructing their nests.? |
Yes we do Solomon. And to use the logic for macroevolution, there is no reason not to assume this a step further. A being with unimaginable intelligence designed and brought the universe into existence.
What we DO NOT observe is very complex algorithms, code and systems coming into existence without intelligence.
|2013 February 07 01:02:00 PM (7380)||[Martin] wwgha link 389. ||“Yes, we do. But, we don?t see or observe in anyway whatsoever a ?who constructing the universe!?” |
Blogmaster, I nominate this quote to the Idiot Hall of Fame.
Put down the shovel mensa.
|2013 February 07 01:02:00 PM (6280)||[Martin] wwgha link 365. ||“It was THEISTS here, not atheists, who introduced the subject of a god-given moral code.” |
Prove it. Provide a quote.
Then provide us with the atheists moral code without changing the subject.
|2013 February 06 12:02:00 PM (6265)||[A] wwgha link 350. ||Solomon, |
They don’t know what evidence they are looking for either. I have challenged them on it and they cannot come to consensus.
Take their religion which is neo-Darwinism. Ask them to prove man evolved from the primordial soup and provide proof using the scientific method. They refuse to do so. They cannot achieve what they ask you to do. However they call this fact.
Then ask them to provide their background that gives them them the qualifications to rule on the evidence for God. They refuse to provide this as well.
They are only bored young men who want to argue constantly. I would call them frauds but that implies they represent something.
|2013 February 04 09:02:00 PM (6221)||[A] wwgha link 306. ||Point proven right on cue! Lol! Thank you darling! A little attention was all you needed.|
|2013 February 04 08:02:00 PM (6219)||[A] wwgha link 304. ||Mousy is such a joy. Her only capacity is to wash socks and label all others trolls. With her impressive list of accomplishments (lol!) she passes judgment on all others. |
She is a atheist version of TMZ. Careful mousey, you might let a belief slip out then you would be forced to learn the scientific method.
|2013 February 03 02:02:00 AM (5373)||[A] wwgha link 123. ||OMG! Could Alex really have kids?! |
What a scary thought.
|2013 January 31 11:01:00 PM (5272)||[A] wwgha link 22. ||Lol!, Alex too many years on LSD has fried your mind. Put down the gun, slowly, and seek professional counseling. |
Before you go, is this atheist meteor the same as brought the alien seeds or was it strictly a big bang meteor?
|2013 January 31 10:01:00 PM (5269)||[A] wwgha link 19. ||I luv it when atheist start cutting one another’s throats. More proof they never read. Lol!!|
|2013 January 31 10:01:00 PM (6182)||[A] wwgha link 267. ||Nah, torching atheists is more fun. I can understand pretty much any theists. The atheists are much more fun to poke. First they only believe what is proven then they don’t. Then they only want to hear what is proven then they give opinions. In reality they are faith beings like the rest. They tend to be much angrier and humble…lol!!|
|2013 January 31 12:01:00 PM (6163)||[A] wwgha link 248. ||“Where did I say or showed that I was a ?man of faith??” |
Sevy! Using hostile language is not necessary. To claim to be such a moral person you are quick to name call and throw out F-bombs. I hope you don’t speak like that in front of kids.! lol!
First you stated an opinion of which you have no proof to support. That is believing in something by faith. Let me share your words.
“I explained my OPINION in details. Why should I have to prove it?”
At least take ownership Sevy. You are Faith-Man!
|2013 January 31 04:01:00 AM (6153)||[A] wwgha link 238. ||Sevy, |
You are telling me you are a man of faith? I thought atheists believe what can be proven?
Sorry we don’t care about your opinions. It is Thelma Lou’s rule. Just keeping Thelma happy. You understand.
|2013 January 30 11:01:00 AM (6119)||[A] wwgha link 204. ||“I explained my OPINION in details. Why should I have to prove it?” |
Severin, how many tomes must Thelma-Lou tell you, we don’t care about your opinion, only what you can prove.
Then you have the audacity to ask someone else to support their claims.
You are indeed a fraud Sev.
You have become part of a game where all the atheist assume all the theists are the same person. Anonymous and Sev are obsessed with playing.
|2013 January 27 02:01:00 AM (5739)||[A] wwgha link 88. ||“Noun|
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
Details of belief as taught or discussed.
faith – belief – creed – denomination
Atheism: not that.”
So Buddhism is not a religion either?
Next selective definition!! LOL!!
Now being rationale, look at this definition from Dictionary.com
“the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices”
Yep, atheism is a religion all day long. Sorry fellas, but everyone recognizes it as true. Just as marriage has been redefined so has religion to include atheism.
|2013 January 26 04:01:00 AM (5709)||[Xenon] wwgha link 58. ||DPK ask and you will receive. If you can’t get to London, many atheist worship in the Universalist church in the US. Done and done. |
The government should only have murder laws for human beings, not babies in the womb? Your dehumanizing brainwashing process is now complete.
|2013 January 26 01:01:00 AM (5706)||[Xenon] wwgha link 55. ||Why is is when atheists are confronted with man aborting babies they change the subject? Why does it happen? Because men used propaganda to convince society that the baby in the womb is not a human being. It is not a human being therefore it does not get any protection, it is not worthy of respect. If the child is inconvenient, not planned for or causes any hardship, that is enough reason to rub it out. Who supports this? Liberals/Progressives of which atheists are members by a large margin. |
It is the very same tactic taken by Hitler. He dehumanized Jews in the very same manner.
The atheist cult leaders – Scientism leaders
|2013 January 25 08:01:00 PM (5694)||[A] wwgha link 43. ||“You have no evidence for your belief, THAT makes it a delusion” |
Exactly, seek medical attention quickly Thelma-Lou! You are part of a small cult and the first thing to remember about cults is they claim the majority are wrong. You have a record setting number of posts here, yet you say nothing worth the time you spend. Much research is being done on your condition.
Why were the Nazis evil? They claimed they were cleansing mankind and making the species better. Is this not just evolution? What makes your judgment superior to the Nazi judgment? Better yet, since we just celebrated 40 years RvW and the lost of 56 million lives, why are the Nazi’s evil but the abortionist are not?
|2013 January 25 03:01:00 PM (5691)||[A] wwgha link 40. ||And saying something is a delusion does not make it true Thelma. Why can”t you and Barney get that through your hollow skulls? |
God exists and if you refuse to ignore the obvious, that’s on you. Seek medical attention quickly and stop being a hater.
|2013 January 23 12:01:00 PM (5580)||[A] wwgha link 28. ||“Once again Martin tries to duck the questions and refers to other people?s comments. It?s all about avoidance isn?t it?” |
Imagine that anon-ymouse, he actually responds to the subject of the thread rather than the atheist parrots.
What does anony-mouse do? He responds to other peoples comments, namely martin! Secondly, he ducks Martin’s questions! lol!!
Let me speak in your language. AWK!!!
|2013 January 22 11:01:00 PM (5573)||[Martin] wwgha link 21. ||DPK, there is no question to answer. You must first establish the question is legitimate by supporting the question’s premises. You and the others have failed to do so. If you can offer some solutions to the problems I have provided we might be able to proceed. |
DPK unfortunately you and anonymous seem more interested in juvenile taunts and names rather than a real discussion.
|2013 January 22 10:01:00 PM (5571)||[Martin] wwgha link 19. ||“The fact that God ignores all of the tragedy on earth proves that God is imaginary.” |
Lets look at this statement from the blogmaster
1. God ignores all tragedies (his claim)
Once again, fallacious reasoning. Human beings all over the world ignore tragedies right in front of their eyes and yet they do exist. I thought I would add this to the long lists of problems with the blogamsters claims.
How does He know God ignores ALL tragedies?
|2013 January 22 08:01:00 PM (5569)||[Martin] wwgha link 17. ||Anonymous I understand your frustration. The questions have you upset and confused. I will stick with the thread topic. It is possible another poster might want to engage in a real discussion and not your hijacking tactics.|
|2013 January 22 06:01:00 PM (5567)||[Martin] wwgha link 15. ||If fraud in your vernacular means I stay on subject and asking probing question regarding comments made on this post, OK I agree. |
You refuse to answer two simple question pertinent to the discussion as outlined in the thread. I do believe you would rather discuss people, use fallacies and dismiss uncomfortable questions. I will again reference you to #5 or #3 if you care to answer either question. I will not be wavering off topic so you can chase your rabbits.
|2013 January 22 11:01:00 AM (5563)||[Martin] wwgha link 11. ||(1) Which god? Ra, Zeus, Odin? You need to be specific. |
That would be the one the thread is addressing in Luke 10 above.
(2) Where are these commands. SPECIFICALLY what did he command
They are in Luke 10 as posted in the subject of the thread.
3) How do you KNOW that this was a command from some god and not the ramblings of the mentally ill or uneducated bronze-age desert nomads?”
The blogmaster has agreed that this was the command of Jesus as posted in the thread above. I take it you don’t agree with the teaching?
Rather than getting off topic with the rest of your questions, see post #5.
?whose (God) interaction is completely indistinguishable from non-existence.?
Since you have only witnessed existence or non-existence, how can you make the argument you can distinguish existence from non-existence? Would this claim not be fallacious since you cannot have such data available?
?do *you* consider a god that ignores suffering to be an exemplar of moral values??
Whose morality would I be using? Atheist?s or God?s?
|2013 January 22 01:01:00 AM (5559)||[A] wwgha link 7. ||‘If God exists, then ?Go and do likewise? applies to God as well.” |
So blogmaster has given God a command. Let me know how that goes. But blogo respond to this question. How are you doing with “go and do likewise?” If past research is any indicator, atheists as a group are the worst when it comes to generosity.
But blogo inadvertently does present a point in the theist’s favor. God has commanded man to take care of those in need. We do not do our job and somehow God is supposed to defer his command since his creation will not conform. Such a childlike view of the Supreme deity is creepy.
|2013 January 21 10:01:00 PM (5557)||[Martin] wwgha link 5. ||“whose (God) interaction is completely indistinguishable from non-existence.” |
Since you have only witnessed existence or non-existence, how can you make the argument you can distinguish existence from non-existence? Would this claim not be fallacious since you cannot have such data available?
“do *you* consider a god that ignores suffering to be an exemplar of moral values?”
Whose morality would I be using? Atheist?s or God?s?
|2013 January 21 08:01:00 PM (5555)||[Martin] wwgha link 3. ||“God is supposed to be omnibenevolent and perfectly moral.” |
Whose morality? Atheist’s or God’s?
|2013 January 17 12:01:00 PM (6056)||[A] wwgha link 141. ||“Atheists just could not refute the necessity of a God. They could not ever get away from the fact that there must be an intelligent being behind ?all? creations.” |
Solomon, individuals will go to extraordinary measures to protect their worldview. Rather than admit intelligence is a necessity for creation they will make up all sorts of ridiculous possibilities and then argue on blogs about a being that they claim does not exist.
I wonder if they hit the anti-santa blogs as enthusiastically?
|2013 January 17 03:01:00 AM (6050)||[A] wwgha link 135. ||Well, I have no problem with Christian mingle. They make money and some singles find a mate. A win-win.|
|2013 January 12 11:01:00 PM (5976)||[Xenon] wwgha link 61. ||DPK |
Oh, now I see. The statement I apologized for as a mistake is a lie.
I thought you had nothing and you do not.
You ignored what I asked about atheist morality. I do understand, it is all relative and there is no ultimate standard that everyone should follow. It is all opinion and everyone’s opinion is ultimately equal. That is why atheist regard lying and cheating as OK in the right situations. Who knows when that might be. Count the silverware if one leaves your house.
I do have a suggestion. Stop listening to opinions and listen to God. God never promised a life without challenges and obstacles. Everything you state is what people say, read the Bible for yourself.
God states He meets our needs, but are you sure your needs are not really wants? I certainly do not know, I only ask the question. Food, water and shelter seem to be the only real needs for a human beings. All else is just extras.
|2013 January 12 07:01:00 PM (5973)||[Xenon] wwgha link 58. ||Ah Ah AH DPK. |
I apologized in #49 for my mistake on this quote:
?You have claimed we should be jailed for teaching our children and about Christ and the morals .?
Since you cannot read I don’t expect you could comprehend my apology. Adults do apologize when an error is made.
BrianE is the actual hatemonger who wants to see us jailed. Irrelevant, since an atheist wants to jail Christians. But…..
Back to your lie:
?The first line in my post was a quote from 37 xenon that I neglected to put quotations around. I was simply replying to his lie.?
Lets see it DPK. Stop being a coward and produce the lie in #37. You won’t because you can’t because you are a liar. You would like me to go away so you can slip out of your lie.
|2013 January 12 01:01:00 PM (5970)||[Xenon] wwgha link 55. ||DPK |
Not so fast. Here is your quote:
“The first line in my post was a quote from 37 xenon that I neglected to put quotations around. I was simply replying to his lie.”
I now repost # 37:
“You bounced around my entire post. Why should we teach the morals you claim they need Todd? I already shared that atheist have stated here it is OK to lie and cheat in the appropriate moments. What are those times Todd? Who gets to chose for us which morals we teach? You have claimed we should be jailed for teaching our children and about Christ and the morals He gives us so you have a better source I take it?”
Now show us the lie DPK. Accusation after accusation and always unsubstantiated.
|2013 January 12 04:01:00 AM (5965)||[Xenon] wwgha link 50. ||“The first line in my post was a quote from 37 xenon that I neglected to put quotations around.” |
Really? I posted a lie?
I bet you will not back that statement up DPK. This is one of your times it is OK to lie. You and alex have proved my point well. Thanks to you both.
|2013 January 12 04:01:00 AM (5964)||[Xenon] wwgha link 49. ||Todd, my apology you didn’t say Christians should be jailed, other atheists here have stated we should be jailed. BrianE and even others have posted such hate speech. Do you agree? |
I didn’t say YOU claim lying and cheating is OK, others here and on this thread are making the argument. When is it OK to lie and cheat? Is it ever OK under any circumstances OK to lie and cheat?
You see two of your fellow atheist who are challenging you on the lying and cheating already…..they think it IS OK.
Bottom line, on what standard does an atheist teach morality? How could you tell someone who thinks lying and cheating is OK that they should not teach that to their children?
Lastly, if a child should chose his religion when he is older, why not the same with their morality?
|2013 January 11 11:01:00 PM (5953)||[Xenon] wwgha link 38. ||Todd: |
“The catholics burned people at the stake for writting ot printing noncatholic bibles. They burned people at the stake for being heritics.”
What does that have to do with anything I posted about Christ, His teachings and the fact Christians would suffer? What does your post have to do with the fact that you don’t understand why Christians suffer and why there is evil in the world?
|2013 January 11 11:01:00 PM (5952)||[Xenon] wwgha link 37. ||Todd: |
“What would the world be like if did not have rules and laws? People could steal or kill just because they wanted to. They could disrespect anyone just because they wanted to.”
You bounced around my entire post. Why should we teach the morals you claim they need Todd? I already shared that atheist have stated here it is OK to lie and cheat in the appropriate moments. What are those times Todd? Who gets to chose for us which morals we teach? You have claimed we should be jailed for teaching our children and about Christ and the morals He gives us so you have a better source I take it?
|2013 January 11 01:01:00 PM (5944)||[Xenon] wwgha link 29. ||Todd said: |
“They have many reasons why things don?t happen for people. Well I don?t believe anymore. I am putting my real name because I don?t care anymore.”
Then he says:
“Not teaching kids morals? So you mean you should not teach them it is wrong to steal from people, disrespect, abuse and kill people?”
You don’t care and suddenly you do? Which morals should be taught Todd? Yours? Muslims? Pagans? We have atheists here that say stealing and lying is OK at times. When do we tell the children they can lie and steal Todd?
See what your ilk wants is to control the masses. Teach the kids the morals “I” give you but if you teach them about God “I” will imprison you. Using extremist as your example is quite lame since every group has their nuts. Your ilk is a more dangerous sort.
It is too bad you didn’t even understand Christianity. You might have recalled the words of Christ:
” If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ?A servant is not greater than his master.? If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you.”
Jesus and every disciple was murdered for their belief and Christians have been murdered regularly for the last 2000 years. You suddenly just realized that?
|2013 January 11 01:01:00 AM (7281)||[A] wwgha link 290. ||Bur |
Severin is just way to easy of a target. Take it easy on him. You can do a search, if you?re bored, on his claims over the years and you will discover some of the funniest and most bizarre claims you have ever seen. Anytime I see a Severin comments, I by design know he it’s not true but maybe comical.
He once alleged, and I paraphrase, that almost no atheist existed 200 years ago. He evidently doesn’t even understand everyone has morality; it’s almost like he is another Thelma-lou! lol!
Give Sev some props though. He has Thelma-lou, his lap dog, doing his work for him. That deserves some kudos!
|2013 January 08 02:01:00 AM (7191)||[A] wwgha link 200. ||Bur, |
As Thelma-lou would gladly admit, atheists don’t know anything. Please, Never Ever upset the atheists by asking questions! I think we need a sign. This really pisses them off because they want to ask all the questions and defend nothing. Severin should have known better than to act like he knows something. I like the monkey morality though. I can see them sitting in a tree with pipes discussing markets, currency exchange rates and the moral landscape.
This is their methodology that fits well with their cowardice and dishonesty.
Let?s see, God doesn?t appear so he doesn?t exist? Hmm, quarks never appeared when I was a kid, they must not exist either. But wait, they did exist, we just couldn?t see them. Hmmm, maybe, eh nah that is too thought provoking for an atheist who know nothing. Columbus has not appeared other than in books therefore he must not have existed either!
|2013 January 05 03:01:00 AM (7121)||[A] wwgha link 130. ||“Our point is that the Bible is not a reliable moral guide. It is through humanistic values, not divine mandate, that many of us have come to see slavery as morally unacceptable.” |
LOL! A more idiotic comment has yet to be made here. The Bible is unreliable declared by an atheist. How has that atheist morality worked out the last 100 years? Gulags?, Stalin? Lenin? Pol Pot? here is a name David Waters? When asked here to declare how morality is determined they have not once provided a methodology.
Why is it morally unacceptable? Because Ami Sci has declared it to be so? What happens if he decides to go Stalin on us? Does that change the morality? How many of us want to rely on self declared ethicist like Ami Sci and Dawkins to declare what is moral?
No, I’ll go back to our DI and find my rights and morality in our creator.
Find a hole and pull the dirt over the top. It is only immoral if Doug takes credit for the work. The title of the article is right in the name. You are such a child. If you cannot respond to the ideas feel free not to type. It’s OK.
|2012 December 30 07:12:00 PM (6992)||[Martin] wwgha link 1. ||A recycling of one of the 50 proofs from the sister site. Let us analyze the logic again. |
1. We asked Jesus to appear
Is this logic valid? No not to any rational individual. Would the atheist believe if Jesus did appear? Of course not. even when Jesus appeared and performed miracles many still did not believe.
Just for arguments sake, let us say their claim is true. How would that disprove a God exists? It does not. Again, another logical fallacy.
|2012 December 29 01:12:00 AM (8864)||[A] wwgha link 94. ||Thelma-Lou is officially busted with his hand up the rear of anony-Lou. |
Get those credentials in to me anony-Lou. We all already knew.
|2012 December 28 10:12:00 PM (8860)||[A] wwgha link 90. ||Mike this is fun. Lets turn Anony’s claim around. |
First, you assume your life has no purpose other than the one you give it. Sorry, Mouse, you do need to drop the ?I?m smarter? line and accept you are not a soup creature. Does it make you feel ?better? to think that you have a no predefined ?purpose?? Truly, that?s sad. You can find your Creator’s purpose, really you can. Just try.”
“Yes, I noticed that one, too. I must have missed the day they taught that in ?law[s] of scientific inquiry? class.”
ROTFL, Thelma-Lou you are as full of it as your double Anony. Science is not about discovering truth. You and your anony-lou double are both seriously deficient in your education. Neither of you have a clue as to what the scientific method entails (that was the phrase you were seeking after).
Feel free to run down your educational background for me. I will evaluate and let you know if it is acceptable.
|2012 December 28 05:12:00 PM (8854)||[Xenon] wwgha link 84. ||Mike, |
You cannot expect rationale responses from irrational minds. They are full of hate and frustration in their dead-end lives. It’s what we call misdirected anger.
|2012 December 21 03:12:00 PM (7539)||[Biff] wwgha link 73. ||Oh, that explains it. You don’t know. I thought that might be the case. |
|2012 December 21 03:12:00 PM (7537)||[Biff] wwgha link 71. ||You would need to ask the one who used the word good. |
How are you using the word “better”?
|2012 December 21 02:12:00 PM (7534)||[Biff] wwgha link 68. ||“I would dare say they that as a group, atheists are ?better? people than xtians.” |
|2012 December 14 07:12:00 PM (7650)||[Martin] wwgha link 3. ||Let us look at the logic as offered by Thomas. |
God doesn?t have a Twitter account
Are the above conclusions logical? No, of course not. First, atheists make the assumption that because they do not acknowledge God?s existence He does not exist. They assume that they do not hear from God in an audible voice that He does not exist. Both conclusions are false.
|2012 December 07 08:12:00 PM (8180)||[Xenon] wwgha link 192. ||I understand DPK. You make a claim you cannot possibly support now you strike out at others and bring your friends in to bail you out not to mention change the subject to draw away attention. One more time for others to see what you refuse to support. |
The question is not rephrased or twisted in any respect. His entire post can be found at 158.
|2012 December 07 06:12:00 PM (8178)||[Xenon] wwgha link 190. ||DPK, you continue to run from you comment. What you stated was: |
?Xenon, you start with a conclusion and then look for reasons to believe it, while ignoring reasons that dispute it.?
Even in my dense moment I can read you did not say lack of evidence you stated ignoring reasons. I know the atheist protocol is to go back to the talking points presented by the atheist community. Maybe you should stick with them to avoid further embarrassment
You continue to attempt to amend your dishonest comments to save face. If you would like to be a man and support your original statement I will reply. If you continue in dishonesty, the scolding I gave you will speak for itself.
|2012 December 07 03:12:00 PM (8169)||[Xenon] wwgha link 181. ||“you ignore the total lack of evidence that would suggest otherwise.” |
DPK no need to get nasty or angry. OK, I’ll bite. What is the evidence that suggest otherwise? I’m willing to consider this evidence I missed.
|2012 December 07 03:12:00 AM (8158)||[Xenon] wwgha link 170. ||DPK, |
I had to call, you out. Let me show you where you discover yourself. You claim I ?ignore reasons that dispute my claim?. You made this claim with no reference by me to any one particular God. If that was essential, how can you make this claim? When called out on your claim abruptly you begin scrambling in an attempt to gain more information about God in order to grasp at any opening to support your false statement.
The bottom line here is you have again made a claim you again cannot support. The Creator could be a God that has identified or maybe not. That doesn?t really matter. What does matter is that you have inadvertently acknowledged that a Creator is a real possibility. Next time save face and comment only when you have something relevant and practical to offer. Sorry to embarrass you but you needed the lesson.
|2012 December 06 10:12:00 PM (8153)||[Xenon] wwgha link 165. ||You know DPK, you didn’t need any characteristics to make the claim. Now you are just attempting to change the subject. I would ascertain the Creator must be intelligent, powerful and quite creative. Our founders felt like our human rights came from the Creator too. |
There are no reasons I neglected to consider as you claim. I thought not.
|2012 December 06 09:12:00 PM (8150)||[Xenon] wwgha link 162. ||DPK if you claim I ignore reasons that dispute my claim should you not be able to outline the reasons? |
I will keep it simple. Show me the reasons that dispute my conclusion that a Creator designed and created the universe.
|2012 December 06 07:12:00 PM (8148)||[Xenon] wwgha link 160. ||“Xenon, you start with a conclusion and then look for reasons to believe it, while ignoring reasons that dispute it.” |
DPK, that was true when I was an atheist, not today. You say I am ignoring reasons that dispute my conclusion. What would those be?
|2012 December 06 02:12:00 AM (8143)||[Xenon] wwgha link 155. ||Overheard at Pat?s house: |
child: ?Mommy, where do babies come from??
mommy: ?Don’t know but we will one day?
child: ?Thanks, Mom, good answer!?
There is a difference between willful ignorance and real answers.
It works both ways Pat. You might to enter into reality where God is a REAL option and stop making up child-like words. It only proves you do not have the maturity to have a real conversation.
The reason the majority of people believe the universe was created by God is because it looks created. It is hard to believe people would make this leap.
|2012 December 05 08:12:00 PM (8137)||[Xenon] wwgha link 149. ||Patrick, |
God is not an answer? God being the intelligence and designer is most definitely an answer. Kicking the can down the road would be “we don”t know how the universe came about but we will one day.”
|2012 December 05 01:12:00 AM (8117)||[A] wwgha link 129. ||Anonymous/DPK/Thelma-Lou, |
You are suppose to provide a point by point summation of the video showing it to be rational and logical. Until then you will be an object of laughter. You are an atheist, a young fella who lives by reason and logic so act like it. Show the error in my analysis to all!!
So you failed to tackle the moral dilemma of the fetus. What’s wrong? No answer for the hypocrisy in the atheist worldview.
Munch, munch…… I have popcorn ready……
|2012 December 05 12:12:00 AM (8111)||[A] wwgha link 123. ||Anonymous, |
Thanks for another great laugh from Anony/DPK/Thelma-Lou. Just when I thought atheists have topped themselves with ignorance they top themselves again.
Their defense for atheist in China ingesting fetuses? The Bible tells us to!
Maybe the other atheists could tell us why ingesting a fetus is wrong but putting a knife in the skull is OK? I would love to hear that defense.
DPK used the word silly. He must be a Hor! LOL!!!!
|2012 December 04 07:12:00 PM (8102)||[A] wwgha link 114. ||Severin I travel to China regularly. If you don”t believe then google it for plenty of articles. |
You express more outrage of ingestion than sticking a knife in the skull and killing it. You employ the moral relativism well. You called another a monster?
|2012 December 04 11:12:00 AM (8095)||[A] wwgha link 107. ||Actually you are wrong Severin. I do know the difference between humans and chickens. It would be the Chinese atheists who find no difference. But how do you? Are you not just a product of random evolution? So I will ask again. |
Is it not true, as Atheist in the US claim, that fetuses are just tissue nothing more? Why is it OK to kill the fetus and trash it over Chinese atheist who will ingest them?
|2012 December 04 01:12:00 AM (7703)||[A] wwgha link 25. ||Cassie |
My apologies for the hateful atheist and their vulgarity. You seem like a sweet genuine good young lady. Never let these haters change that.
|2012 December 04 01:12:00 AM (8091)||[A] wwgha link 103. ||Oh Thelma-Lou are you not tired of embarrassing yourself? HA HA HA, where did you come up with some guy making soup? Try again. Second, did you even read your link? |
ROTFL, thank you Thelma-Lou for another great laugh. perfect timing.
More importantly on to SEVERIN! You seem to express moral outrage at Chinese atheist who do market and sell fetuses for a number of reasons. Is it not true, as Atheist in the US claim, that fetuses are just tissue nothing more? Why is it OK to kill the fetus and trash it over Chinese atheist who will ingest them? I bet you do eat the eggs you Monster!
|2012 December 03 12:12:00 PM (7688)||[A] wwgha link 10. ||And anonymous completes the exit. Recommends a book but can’t even tell us why it is special. Non sequitur, dismissed.|
|2012 December 03 03:12:00 AM (7684)||[A] wwgha link 6. ||“I think you need to read The God Delusion.” |
Read it. Now, what is one to take away from this masterpiece? God doesn’t exist? Alright, lay out the case.
Anonymous back-peddling like a defensive back shifting away from the Dawkin’s masterpiece.
|2012 November 30 09:11:00 PM (8048)||[A] wwgha link 60. ||“Why is your being here not a contradiction?” |
Thelma-Lou along with his partners in his trinity DPK and Antimatter, showing up and posting that God existence or nonexistence cannot be proven by science is actually the sign of someone who is reasonable. I don’t completely agree because my background in science suggest otherwise. However, I can respect someone who might interpret the data differently. Ian might be 40YA since he wouldn’t engage you guys either.
|2012 November 30 12:11:00 PM (8034)||[A] wwgha link 46. ||Ian. |
I agree Ian. Writings, indirect evidence and personal experience are all we have for origins, microevolution, Socrates, existence and so on. maybe it is easier to believe in nothing?
So why are Atheists obsessed if God’s existence cannot be proven and God’s nonexistence cannot be proven?
|2012 November 28 06:11:00 PM (7999)||[A] wwgha link 11. ||Lou , |
He is all they have left. They get crushed in debates regularly. If they stood on what they claim that it is impossible to disprove God they might save face. It will not happen because they have a need to argue.
|2012 November 27 07:11:00 PM (7989)||[A] wwgha link 1. ||Lol!!! How many times can Thomas post the same fallacious video in defense of Atheism? |
Thelma-Lou now post your empty paragraph…….
|2012 November 26 10:11:00 PM (8236)||[A] wwgha link 28. ||Thelma-Lou this blog is about Paul Krugman’s comments not how oil got in rocks. |
Scourge you are so amusing. The Obama administration PAYS Brazil and China to drill for oil so they can turn around and sell it to us. Why? He can keep America hostage to his Arab buddies. Second, now he can claim he is keeping his pledge to the Environmental nut-jobs. They buy it since they are about as bright as you.
If climate-change is manmade then prove it. Right here on this thread prove climate-change is manmade and not a natural phenomonea. You NEVER EVER prove this supposed manmade process. LOL!!
Your antisemitism is showing scorn. Of course, we knew that since you are must certainly a far-left whack job.
|2012 November 24 06:11:00 PM (8214)||[A] wwgha link 6. ||Thelma-Lou |
Did you mean “Do you deny the ice caps are melting?”
Was that your BIG question for Asher?
|2012 November 24 06:11:00 PM (8213)||[A] wwgha link 5. ||Thelma-Lou |
This thread is about Paul Krugman’s article. Please refrain from trolling.
Paul Krugman is a far left lunatic liberal. Anything he says is pretty much irrelevant other than to the nutties who hang on his every word. Unfortunately for Paul, his extreme partisanship clouds his view on economics. I read the GQ article. I can only garner from Paul’s analysis he is now indulging in finding ghosts that do not exist.
The great question from GQ. Mr. Rubio how old is the earth?
Answer: Who cares? Mr. Rubio is a politician. The bigger question how big is the deficit and how big is the unemployment number and how will we lower these numbers?
Follow up: Will you investigate why we have 4 dead Americans in Benghazi?
Paul, I hope you read these relevant questions.
Thomas: Who is making these people work at Wal-Mart? They are free to move on to 100K plus positions any time they desire. It’s one of America’s great attributes.
|2012 November 23 03:11:00 PM (8689)||[Xenon] wwgha link 149. ||“Correct me if I am wrong but atheist claim materialism, logic and ?reason? as their modus operandi?” |
ROTFL!!!!! Where did you get that ridiculous idea! Read Ricard Dawkin’s book “The God Delusion” and watch as he claims one thing and then directly contradicts those claims with his logic. He is the best the atheists have to offer. Their M.O. is ridicule, bait & switch and fallacies. Not all mind you, my son dates a very sweet atheist girl but her atheism is not religion to her.
“Would this be the typical behavior of atheist who has failed their own protocol?”
Yes, every time. They make a claim, it is shown to be a faulty claim and they attempt to change the subject or the old Red Herring fallacy. It is their favorite. It is what they do to every thread.
Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas
|2012 November 20 03:11:00 PM (8295)||[A] wwgha link 21. ||Rostam what I find most appealing about liberals like Thelma Lou is how they pick and choose what laws they want to enforce and when. Notice how they pick out problems in churches and would shut them down if possible or give the government the churches money. Is there a more corrupt and inefficient organization than the government? Only a fool would give a corrupt and broken regime more money. |
Nevertheless, illegal aliens are running rampant throughout illegal Sanctuary cities but where are the liberals? Liberal politicians don’t pay taxes yet they are promoted into positions of leadership. A supposed war on woman by the Right while black conservative politicians get death threats.
Just another example of liberal hypocrisy.
|2012 November 20 01:11:00 AM (8286)||[A] wwgha link 12. ||Rostam |
Thomas never read the purpose. He just saw thread material. Don’t confuse that with facts, truth or logic.
Hey, Thelma Lou finally made some sense. He just described liberals. I wonder how many new Obama appointees will need to pay their taxes before coming on board?
|2012 November 19 03:11:00 AM (8276)||[A] wwgha link 2. ||It will never happen. African American and NAACP front churches are the worst. Why do you think Obama doesn’t touch this matter? The biggest violators are his supporters. |
But for paying taxes, lets start with the Democrats who don’t pay their taxes beginning with the Obama regime.
Last point here. Churches/Christians do more to help the poor, needy and the hopeless around the world than any group in the world. I have seen it personally. Giving money to Obama just results in failed businesses, stimulus slush funds and trips to Spain for his family and friends.
|2012 November 15 11:11:00 AM (8339)||[Martin] wwgha link 22. ||“For there to be freedom of religion, there must be freedom FROM religion -” |
Here we have another logical fallacy. Notice Lou’s claim atheism is NOT a religion. Must a religion involve God? Let us examine this claim. Buddhism and other eastern religions do not include a God therefore Atheism could very well form a religion. But for the sake of discussion let us assume it is not.
In order for FOR to be true FFR must be true,
Could this logically be true? What we have is:
A is true only if B is true however A is not logically connected to B.
Lou forces this statement to be true by redefining FFR. If Lou hears the word God then he feels religion has been FORCED upon him. But has it? Can he ignore it? Is he forced to convert to Islam, Christianity or Taoism? Of course not. But further, the Constitution does NOT protect him from FFR therefore to be in such company he would need to leave the planet.
What we have is another myopic adherent of Atheism who would like to suppress religious freedom for the masses in order to practice his ?religion?. Your freedom ends where my freedom begins Lou.
|2012 November 14 02:11:00 AM (8519)||[Xenon] wwgha link 76. ||Oh my, I gave alex attention and now he has had an flashback. alex, go see mommy, she can burp you and put you to bed. You need a nap.|
|2012 November 14 01:11:00 AM (8516)||[Xenon] wwgha link 73. ||Oh alex you are so cute. The only radicals I am concerned about beating people are Occupiers, Black Panthers, Leftist and Atheists. These are the groups who believe in violence and hate. |
If you don’t like me posting here then leave and find a job. You add nothing but hate and ignorance. You make your own even look bad.
|2012 November 13 07:11:00 PM (8511)||[Xenon] wwgha link 68. ||DFW, Lou, Anonymous all back to back patting themselves on the back. Your game is lame. |
Martin you provided a perfect analysis. One moment atheist claim they do not need to disprove God but then we see them attempting to do so regularly and failing badly.
Watch them change the subject now.
|2012 November 11 07:11:00 PM (8663)||[A] wwgha link 123. ||Anonymous |
We agree for once. If you promise to stop engaging me as you frequently do, I will not engage you. No problem there. You just stroke the ego of your alternate personalities and fellow adherents and whatever else you like to stroke.
In 1996 for the purpose of the Olympics in Salt Lake, the LDS church did start referring to themselves as Christian. It was not until this point they took the label to improve their public image. Their beliefs were not altered.
I rarely use the word Christian since it means different things to different groups.
Gotta catch an overseas flight. Always a lot of fun. Boys play nice.
|2012 November 11 02:11:00 PM (8502)||[A] wwgha link 59. ||Martin/Mitch they claim regularly I am a Hor so I think in turn that makes you a Hor too. |
Small minds argue about small things. They don’t know it but I am DFW, DPK, Anonymous, alex and Lindsay too! It is difficult portraying their level of stupidity. lol!
Well anyhow I enjoyed seeing DFW get snapped like a twig even if it was me. Your logic is solid and Thomas’ is definitely flawed. No surprise if you have viewed any of his videos.
|2012 November 10 02:11:00 PM (8492)||[Martin] wwgha link 49. ||So my name is now an issue. I go back Martin and Mitch because they are both my real names. I don’t need to be an anonymous. I obviously was not hiding who I was Anony-Lou. I understand molding a new persona empowers you but it doesn’t work. |
In order to get an answer from you, just for grins, lets us assume there is no proof for God.
Now, again you refuse to answer the obvious question I asked in reference to this thread. One more time.
How is my logical analysis of Thomas? quote incorrect?
Notice this IS the subject of the thread. Parroting “Context Awk!” is not an answer unless you can demonstrate this. One more chance. If you fail to answer I will interpret that as submission.
|2012 November 10 12:11:00 PM (8488)||[Martin] wwgha link 45. ||Lou said “I just did. The context of his comments was The Onion article.” |
Yes you keep making this statement while ignoring my question.
How is my logical analysis of Thomas’ quote incorrect?
Second, The Onion article is a parody of the Creator distancing himself from the comments of Mourdock in a press conference. Thomas’ comments are not in the context of this press conference parody.
I never addressed you. You felt a need to answer for Thomas so would you like to say Uncle or shall we go on?
In order to get an answer from you, just for grins, lets us assume there is no proof for God.
I predict silence or a repeat of his non-answer.
|2012 November 10 05:11:00 AM (8487)||[A] wwgha link 44. ||Mitch |
I am correct so often it is almost embarrassing. Lou did not explain why you are wrong and he sends in anonymous to change the subject. Lets look at the claim again.
The fact that God is silent, despite the fact that people like Mourdock claim to speak on his behalf, proves that God is imaginary.
Now lets put a little spin to it and see if it holds up.
The fact that Thomas is silent, despite the fact that people like Lou claim to speak on his behalf, proves that Thomas is imaginary.
Um, I don’t think so.
|2012 November 09 09:11:00 PM (8474)||[A] wwgha link 31. ||Mitch |
This is typical DFW. He attempts to claim you are taking a quote out of context, he gets busted with his lame accusation and attempts to change the subject.
The Onion is the context…lol!
Ok, so DFW, what is Thomas attempting to say? God does exist?
I have regularly nailed the DFWs and DPKS of this blog on such claims, they always attempt to change the subject when cornered. He Never Ever backs up his claims.
|2012 November 09 05:11:00 PM (8641)||[A] wwgha link 101. ||alex, again thank you. Your represent the atheists perfectly! What was that finishing school again? |
Smartgirl presented her case very well. I haven’t seen one legitimate question she needed to answer. That could possibly be why she has refrained from more posts. Second could be she has a life.
|2012 November 09 05:11:00 PM (8460)||[A] wwgha link 17. ||Lou calls himself sic. Agree |
Ignore alex intolerance and calls for you to leave. I enjoy you being here so he is wrong….again! Keep up the good work!
|2012 November 09 02:11:00 AM (8630)||[A] wwgha link 90. ||Atheists need to stop with their laughable assertion that they have no belief. We have their priesthood writing book after book about their beliefs. Apparently, theist know more about the atheist beliefs than the atheists actually do. Did I even bring up this blog? |
Alex, thank you for speaking for the atheists. You help our cause greatly. :)
|2012 November 06 07:11:00 PM (8585)||[Xenon] wwgha link 45. ||Castbound, |
The last verse in Judges reflects their moral outlook. A wise student you have there.
|2012 November 05 08:11:00 PM (8576)||[A] wwgha link 36. ||mvick |
Great job cutting anony down to size. Let us recap. He tells another poster he doesn’t understand his own beliefs. You set him straight and he then goes on to say the thread is off topic! ha ha ha
Its always off topic when they get showed up.
Now DPK when challenged on atheist morals refuses to provide a reasonable answer but instead asks a stupid question.
Let me answer for them. Richard Dawkins in his book claims no absolute morality while proceeding to claim case by case absolute morality all throughout his book. That should explain the nonsense of atheist morality.
|2012 November 02 07:11:00 PM (8716)||[A] wwgha link 22. ||“LOL! You Hor grammar school grad!” |
Says the idiot grammar police! lol! Does anyone know what a “You Hor” is? We can ask alex when he reappears. All poor little Lunatic Louis has is grammar complaints.
In 2007 the atheist blogs couldn’t talk enough about politics. Of course we know what partisan hacks they are and it was all anti-Bush known as BDS. Suddenly things like Benghazi, Fast & Furious and White House leaks are not an issue.
I do agree, Mormonism is a cult is the same manner atheism is a cult.
|2012 November 02 01:11:00 AM (8695)||[A] wwgha link 1. ||Thomas, |
You mean it wasn’t Bush? I kept waiting for OhNoama to find a way to put the blame on Bush. Using Katrina as a model it would seem likely OhNoama cause the storm because he hates white people.
|2012 November 01 03:11:00 AM (8821)||[A] wwgha link 51. ||Mike,|
You hit the nail on the head. All atheists have is profanity, insults and delusions. Not doubt these bitter feelings stem from bad relationships, job failures and insecurity. No doubt psychological issues are in play.
Thanks for posting.
|2010 January 08 02:01:00 PM (9715)||[Xenon] wwgha link 19. ||Sev |
What color is the sky in your world? You go off the the wildest tangents and numb headed assertions I have ever seen. Maybe you need to be medicated.
Jews, skyscrapers, South America, Muslims, Zeus, demands lol I mean you just go on and on when none of these things have even been brought up. Get help.
|2010 January 07 04:01:00 PM (9720)||[Xenon] wwgha link 14. ||“Explain to yourself WHY god have chosen Jews to start, and forgot/neglected 98% of earth population, and let 98% of earth population to invent and worship their own gods?” |
Severin you made a claim about all the gods above. Explain yourself.
Also, can you back your 98% assertions or are you just making up more numbers?
“If muslims came first to America, American population would be all muslims today – is it correct?”
IF my Aunt had a package she would be my Uncle. You don’t want to start with your hypotheticals, They are useless and senseless.
|2010 January 06 04:01:00 PM (9722)||[Xenon] wwgha link 12. ||I understand Severin’s schizophrenia now. That is a lot of Gods for him to keep up with…|